Looks like Hatton- Paquiao is off

[Violent Demise]

Pac refusing 50-50 is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him.

Hatton pushing for 50-50 knowing he doesn't deserve it is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him

Fukk them both.

According to the article linked earlier, Hatton had gone down to a 53-47 split for Manny, & Manny still wasnt havin it

I ain't no fan of Pac. I recognize his greatness. But I'm far from a fan. I ain't no fan of Hatton either. I recognize his....his. He's got titles. I acknowledge that. But not a fan. Both these fighters have huge groupie fan clubs that rush to there defense at any posts not calling them master. All that blind lust leads to finger pointing. Neither side is capable of seeing the truth. When your on the outside looking in the truth is plain and simple.

Hatton should take his 40% and shut the fukk up. Cuz really that 40% is still to high. This fight should really be 70-30 for Pac. For one reason. And one reason only. He beat Oscar. Yes Oscar was shot. Beyound shot. But Pac still fought him and beat him. Hatton didn't. Hatton was offered the Oscar fight. But like a biitch he said no. He turned from white to yellow. If he would of took the fight and won he would be in the driver seat calling the shots. He could dictate his terms to anybody. Including Mayweather. But no. The thought of him flying into the ring post in back to back fights was haunting his dreams. So he turned the fight down. Like a biitch. Now shut the fukk up and take your 40% and be graceful your even getting that.

[leftylee]

Pac refusing 50-50 is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him.

Hatton pushing for 50-50 knowing he doesn't deserve it is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him

Fukk them both.

According to the article linked earlier, Hatton had gone down to a 53-47 split for Manny, & Manny still wasnt havin it

I ain't no fan of Pac. I recognize his greatness. But I'm far from a fan. I ain't no fan of Hatton either. I recognize his....his. He's got titles. I acknowledge that. But not a fan. Both these fighters have huge groupie fan clubs that rush to there defense at any posts not calling them master. All that blind lust leads to finger pointing. Neither side is capable of seeing the truth. When your on the outside looking in the truth is plain and simple.

Hatton should take his 40% and shut the fukk up. Cuz really that 40% is still to high. This fight should really be 70-30 for Pac. For one reason. And one reason only. He beat Oscar. Yes Oscar was shot. Beyound shot. But Pac still fought him and beat him. Hatton didn't. Hatton was offered the Oscar fight. But like a biitch he said no. He turned from white to yellow. If he would of took the fight and won he would be in the driver seat calling the shots. He could dictate his terms to anybody. Including Mayweather. But no. The thought of him flying into the ring post in back to back fights was haunting his dreams. So he turned the fight down. Like a biitch. Now shut the fukk up and take your 40% and be graceful your even getting that.

I gotta admit, I dont agree whatsoever with you on that. You say Oscar is the reason Pac should have the higher percentage ?. But isn't the fight for Ricky's title ? Isn't it at Ricky's weight class ? A weightclass that he's dominated for 5 years. Also Hatton brings the bigger following. Just cuz Pac beat Oscar means not a lot IMO when it comes to who should get the higher purse.

And Ricky turned down the ODLH fight as he already had a verbal agreement with Paulie Malignaggi and stayed true to his promise to fight him. Unlike some.

[Violent Demise]

According to the article linked earlier, Hatton had gone down to a 53-47 split for Manny, & Manny still wasnt havin it

I ain't no fan of Pac. I recognize his greatness. But I'm far from a fan. I ain't no fan of Hatton either. I recognize his....his. He's got titles. I acknowledge that. But not a fan. Both these fighters have huge groupie fan clubs that rush to there defense at any posts not calling them master. All that blind lust leads to finger pointing. Neither side is capable of seeing the truth. When your on the outside looking in the truth is plain and simple.

Hatton should take his 40% and shut the fukk up. Cuz really that 40% is still to high. This fight should really be 70-30 for Pac. For one reason. And one reason only. He beat Oscar. Yes Oscar was shot. Beyound shot. But Pac still fought him and beat him. Hatton didn't. Hatton was offered the Oscar fight. But like a biitch he said no. He turned from white to yellow. If he would of took the fight and won he would be in the driver seat calling the shots. He could dictate his terms to anybody. Including Mayweather. But no. The thought of him flying into the ring post in back to back fights was haunting his dreams. So he turned the fight down. Like a biitch. Now shut the fukk up and take your 40% and be graceful your even getting that.

I gotta admit, I dont agree whatsoever with you on that. You say Oscar is the reason Pac should have the higher percentage ?. But isn't the fight for Ricky's title ? Isn't it at Ricky's weight class ? A weightclass that he's dominated for 5 years. Also Hatton brings the bigger following. Just cuz Pac beat Oscar means not a lot IMO when it comes to who should get the higher purse.

And Ricky turned down the ODLH fight as he already had a verbal agreement with Paulie Malignaggi and stayed true to his promise to fight him. Unlike some.

Your right on that. But Pac is the hotter fighter. He's p4p number 1. He's taking the bigger risk by going to Hatton's weight class. And he has just as many groupies as Hatton does. More in the US than Hatton does. On top of that he did what Hatton didn't think he could do. And that's beat Boxings most popular fighter.

[Kirkland Laing]

I ain't no fan of Pac. I recognize his greatness. But I'm far from a fan. I ain't no fan of Hatton either. I recognize his....his. He's got titles. I acknowledge that. But not a fan. Both these fighters have huge groupie fan clubs that rush to there defense at any posts not calling them master. All that blind lust leads to finger pointing. Neither side is capable of seeing the truth. When your on the outside looking in the truth is plain and simple.

Hatton should take his 40% and shut the fukk up. Cuz really that 40% is still to high. This fight should really be 70-30 for Pac. For one reason. And one reason only. He beat Oscar. Yes Oscar was shot. Beyound shot. But Pac still fought him and beat him. Hatton didn't. Hatton was offered the Oscar fight. But like a biitch he said no. He turned from white to yellow. If he would of took the fight and won he would be in the driver seat calling the shots. He could dictate his terms to anybody. Including Mayweather. But no. The thought of him flying into the ring post in back to back fights was haunting his dreams. So he turned the fight down. Like a biitch. Now shut the fukk up and take your 40% and be graceful your even getting that.

I gotta admit, I dont agree whatsoever with you on that. You say Oscar is the reason Pac should have the higher percentage ?. But isn't the fight for Ricky's title ? Isn't it at Ricky's weight class ? A weightclass that he's dominated for 5 years. Also Hatton brings the bigger following. Just cuz Pac beat Oscar means not a lot IMO when it comes to who should get the higher purse.

And Ricky turned down the ODLH fight as he already had a verbal agreement with Paulie Malignaggi and stayed true to his promise to fight him. Unlike some.

Your right on that. But Pac is the hotter fighter. He's p4p number 1. He's taking the bigger risk by going to Hatton's weight class. And he has just as many groupies as Hatton does. More in the US than Hatton does. On top of that he did what Hatton didn't think he could do. And that's beat Boxings most popular fighter.

As far as who brings the revenue to the fight Hatton probably brings more than Manny. Manny beating Oscar only makes him a draw with hardcore boxing fans. Put him in a PPV where his opponent isn't either American or Latino and how many buys will he sell? Hatton brings up to $30 million to the promotion just from UK TV PPV buys. That's the equivalent of 600 000 US PPV buys. Manny isn't worth 600 000 more PPV buys than Hatton to the promotion and Manny's domestic TV revenue would bring in the region of $50 000. He'll earn only a fraction of what he could make fighting Hatton for his next fight while Hatton will make ten million plus fighting somebody at Wembley. Manny bottled it.

(Or at least he may well agree in a day or a week. IIRC the Oscar negotiations went on for a couple of months and it was on again off again till they finally agreed. He already got Hatton down to 53-47, maybe it ends up 55-45. But if there's no agreement, because Manny is turning down a payday far in excess of anything else he can make fighting somebody else, he's clearly bottling the fight.)

[JT Rock]

I'm really disappointed were going to miss seeing Ricky and Pac put on a tear up.

[Violent Demise]

I gotta admit, I dont agree whatsoever with you on that. You say Oscar is the reason Pac should have the higher percentage ?. But isn't the fight for Ricky's title ? Isn't it at Ricky's weight class ? A weightclass that he's dominated for 5 years. Also Hatton brings the bigger following. Just cuz Pac beat Oscar means not a lot IMO when it comes to who should get the higher purse.

And Ricky turned down the ODLH fight as he already had a verbal agreement with Paulie Malignaggi and stayed true to his promise to fight him. Unlike some.

Your right on that. But Pac is the hotter fighter. He's p4p number 1. He's taking the bigger risk by going to Hatton's weight class. And he has just as many groupies as Hatton does. More in the US than Hatton does. On top of that he did what Hatton didn't think he could do. And that's beat Boxings most popular fighter.

As far as who brings the revenue to the fight Hatton probably brings more than Manny. Manny beating Oscar only makes him a draw with hardcore boxing fans. Put him in a PPV where his opponent isn't either American or Latino and how many buys will he sell? Hatton brings up to $30 million to the promotion just from UK TV PPV buys. That's the equivalent of 600 000 US PPV buys. Manny isn't worth 600 000 more PPV buys than Hatton to the promotion and Manny's domestic TV revenue would bring in the region of $50 000. He'll earn only a fraction of what he could make fighting Hatton for his next fight while Hatton will make ten million plus fighting somebody at Wembley. Manny bottled it.

(Or at least he may well agree in a day or a week. IIRC the Oscar negotiations went on for a couple of months and it was on again off again till they finally agreed. He already got Hatton down to 53-47, maybe it ends up 55-45. But if there's no agreement, because Manny is turning down a payday far in excess of anything else he can make fighting somebody else, he's clearly bottling the fight.)

If the fight happens it happens in the US. Not the UK. Ever since the Calzaghe-Kessler debacle (lowest HBO ratings ever) HBO has pretty much stop giving a fukk about other countries. They've done the smart thing and gone back to simply worrying about the US. And in the US Pac easily trumps Hatton. Why you think Pac-David Diaz was on PPV and Hatton-Lazcano was on the Vesus channel? Pac has an audience here. Hatton doesn't.

Facts are Hatton needs Pac more than Pac needs him. Especally status wise. Pac can fight Marquez for the 3rd time. Or take on Valero or Campbell. Maybe get Mayweather out of retirement. Hell he's even talking stupid about facing Margarito. All them fights elevate his staus. What's Hatton going to do? Keep ruling a weak 140 division. Wins over Holt or Bradley would be nice. But do little. Marquez maybe. But Marquez wants Pac more than anything. A Mayweather rematch is a no sell without Hatton beating Pac first. And he won't go back to 147. So what's he going to do? He should take the 40% and make the fight. That 40% is still worth millions. So it's not like he's not going to eat.

[JT Rock]

Your right on that. But Pac is the hotter fighter. He's p4p number 1. He's taking the bigger risk by going to Hatton's weight class. And he has just as many groupies as Hatton does. More in the US than Hatton does. On top of that he did what Hatton didn't think he could do. And that's beat Boxings most popular fighter.

As far as who brings the revenue to the fight Hatton probably brings more than Manny. Manny beating Oscar only makes him a draw with hardcore boxing fans. Put him in a PPV where his opponent isn't either American or Latino and how many buys will he sell? Hatton brings up to $30 million to the promotion just from UK TV PPV buys. That's the equivalent of 600 000 US PPV buys. Manny isn't worth 600 000 more PPV buys than Hatton to the promotion and Manny's domestic TV revenue would bring in the region of $50 000. He'll earn only a fraction of what he could make fighting Hatton for his next fight while Hatton will make ten million plus fighting somebody at Wembley. Manny bottled it.

(Or at least he may well agree in a day or a week. IIRC the Oscar negotiations went on for a couple of months and it was on again off again till they finally agreed. He already got Hatton down to 53-47, maybe it ends up 55-45. But if there's no agreement, because Manny is turning down a payday far in excess of anything else he can make fighting somebody else, he's clearly bottling the fight.)

If the fight happens it happens in the US. Not the UK. Ever since the Calzaghe-Kessler debacle (lowest HBO ratings ever) HBO has pretty much stop giving a fukk about other countries. They've done the smart thing and gone back to simply worrying about the US. And in the US Pac easily trumps Hatton. Why you think Pac-David Diaz was on PPV and Hatton-Lazcano was on the Vesus channel? Pac has an audience here. Hatton doesn't.

Facts are Hatton needs Pac more than Pac needs him. Especally status wise. Pac can fight Marquez for the 3rd time. Or take on Valero or Campbell. Maybe get Mayweather out of retirement. Hell he's even talking stupid about facing Margarito. All them fights elevate his staus. What's Hatton going to do? Keep ruling a weak 140 division. Wins over Holt or Bradley would be nice. But do little. Marquez maybe. But Marquez wants Pac more than anything. A Mayweather rematch is a no sell without Hatton beating Pac first. And he won't go back to 147. So what's he going to do? He should take the 40% and make the fight. That 40% is still worth millions. So it's not like he's not going to eat.

Fighting the man at 140 legitimizes Pac, he skipped over that division to fight an old dried up Delahoya, which pales in comparison to fighting and beating Hatton.

Pac is scared and everyone knows it

[Violent Demise]

As far as who brings the revenue to the fight Hatton probably brings more than Manny. Manny beating Oscar only makes him a draw with hardcore boxing fans. Put him in a PPV where his opponent isn't either American or Latino and how many buys will he sell? Hatton brings up to $30 million to the promotion just from UK TV PPV buys. That's the equivalent of 600 000 US PPV buys. Manny isn't worth 600 000 more PPV buys than Hatton to the promotion and Manny's domestic TV revenue would bring in the region of $50 000. He'll earn only a fraction of what he could make fighting Hatton for his next fight while Hatton will make ten million plus fighting somebody at Wembley. Manny bottled it.

(Or at least he may well agree in a day or a week. IIRC the Oscar negotiations went on for a couple of months and it was on again off again till they finally agreed. He already got Hatton down to 53-47, maybe it ends up 55-45. But if there's no agreement, because Manny is turning down a payday far in excess of anything else he can make fighting somebody else, he's clearly bottling the fight.)

If the fight happens it happens in the US. Not the UK. Ever since the Calzaghe-Kessler debacle (lowest HBO ratings ever) HBO has pretty much stop giving a fukk about other countries. They've done the smart thing and gone back to simply worrying about the US. And in the US Pac easily trumps Hatton. Why you think Pac-David Diaz was on PPV and Hatton-Lazcano was on the Vesus channel? Pac has an audience here. Hatton doesn't.

Facts are Hatton needs Pac more than Pac needs him. Especally status wise. Pac can fight Marquez for the 3rd time. Or take on Valero or Campbell. Maybe get Mayweather out of retirement. Hell he's even talking stupid about facing Margarito. All them fights elevate his staus. What's Hatton going to do? Keep ruling a weak 140 division. Wins over Holt or Bradley would be nice. But do little. Marquez maybe. But Marquez wants Pac more than anything. A Mayweather rematch is a no sell without Hatton beating Pac first. And he won't go back to 147. So what's he going to do? He should take the 40% and make the fight. That 40% is still worth millions. So it's not like he's not going to eat.

Fighting the man at 140 legitimizes Pac, he skipped over that division to fight an old dried up Delahoya, which pales in comparison to fighting and beating Hatton.

Pac is scared and everyone knows it

A fight Hatton turned down cuz of fear.

[Kirkland Laing]

Your right on that. But Pac is the hotter fighter. He's p4p number 1. He's taking the bigger risk by going to Hatton's weight class. And he has just as many groupies as Hatton does. More in the US than Hatton does. On top of that he did what Hatton didn't think he could do. And that's beat Boxings most popular fighter.

As far as who brings the revenue to the fight Hatton probably brings more than Manny. Manny beating Oscar only makes him a draw with hardcore boxing fans. Put him in a PPV where his opponent isn't either American or Latino and how many buys will he sell? Hatton brings up to $30 million to the promotion just from UK TV PPV buys. That's the equivalent of 600 000 US PPV buys. Manny isn't worth 600 000 more PPV buys than Hatton to the promotion and Manny's domestic TV revenue would bring in the region of $50 000. He'll earn only a fraction of what he could make fighting Hatton for his next fight while Hatton will make ten million plus fighting somebody at Wembley. Manny bottled it.

(Or at least he may well agree in a day or a week. IIRC the Oscar negotiations went on for a couple of months and it was on again off again till they finally agreed. He already got Hatton down to 53-47, maybe it ends up 55-45. But if there's no agreement, because Manny is turning down a payday far in excess of anything else he can make fighting somebody else, he's clearly bottling the fight.)

If the fight happens it happens in the US. Not the UK. Ever since the Calzaghe-Kessler debacle (lowest HBO ratings ever) HBO has pretty much stop giving a fukk about other countries. They've done the smart thing and gone back to simply worrying about the US. And in the US Pac easily trumps Hatton. Why you think Pac-David Diaz was on PPV and Hatton-Lazcano was on the Vesus channel? Pac has an audience here. Hatton doesn't.

Facts are Hatton needs Pac more than Pac needs him. Especally status wise. Pac can fight Marquez for the 3rd time. Or take on Valero or Campbell. Maybe get Mayweather out of retirement. Hell he's even talking stupid about facing Margarito. All them fights elevate his staus. What's Hatton going to do? Keep ruling a weak 140 division. Wins over Holt or Bradley would be nice. But do little. Marquez maybe. But Marquez wants Pac more than anything. A Mayweather rematch is a no sell without Hatton beating Pac first. And he won't go back to 147. So what's he going to do? He should take the 40% and make the fight. That 40% is still worth millions. So it's not like he's not going to eat.

Hatton-Lazcano was a comeback fight against a no-name opponent. Manny moving up to lightweight and fighting another Latino was an event that America's boxing fans wanted to see. And how many PPVs did it sell? 400 000. Hatton brings the equivalent of 600 000 PPV buys to the table from the UK only and sells thousands of tickets, turning the fight into an event. So Hatton single-handedly brings almost twice as much revenue to the table than a Manny fight has ever generated other than his fight against Oscar for which 1.4 milllion Americans paid to watch Oscar and 0.1 million Manny fans paid to watch Manny. Manny might have the number one ranking but Hatton is now far and away the number one-ranked revenue generator in boxing.

So some things we know for sure.

1. Hatton brings more money to the event than Manny.

2. Manny claimed before Oscar he only wanted big money fights in future.

3. Hatton is easily the biggest fight out there for him in terms of money. If Manny doesn't fight him he's looking at somebody like Soto or Campbell for a couple of million. Hatton can fight a tomato can in Manchester and make twice that or fight Oscar or JMM and make ten million plus, five times what Manny is looking at.

4. They both agreed on 50-50 before Christmas. Then Manny started asking for more money.

So what does that tell you?

EDIT : Manny-Diaz did 250 000 buys. He did 400 000 against JMM. So after he beat JMM it made him so popular with US boxing fans that the PPV buys almost halved for his next fight. That tells me that the bottler Manny needs a popular Latino or American fighter in the other corner to sell lots of PPVs.

[britsday]

As far as who brings the revenue to the fight Hatton probably brings more than Manny. Manny beating Oscar only makes him a draw with hardcore boxing fans. Put him in a PPV where his opponent isn't either American or Latino and how many buys will he sell? Hatton brings up to $30 million to the promotion just from UK TV PPV buys. That's the equivalent of 600 000 US PPV buys. Manny isn't worth 600 000 more PPV buys than Hatton to the promotion and Manny's domestic TV revenue would bring in the region of $50 000. He'll earn only a fraction of what he could make fighting Hatton for his next fight while Hatton will make ten million plus fighting somebody at Wembley. Manny bottled it.

(Or at least he may well agree in a day or a week. IIRC the Oscar negotiations went on for a couple of months and it was on again off again till they finally agreed. He already got Hatton down to 53-47, maybe it ends up 55-45. But if there's no agreement, because Manny is turning down a payday far in excess of anything else he can make fighting somebody else, he's clearly bottling the fight.)

If the fight happens it happens in the US. Not the UK. Ever since the Calzaghe-Kessler debacle (lowest HBO ratings ever) HBO has pretty much stop giving a fukk about other countries. They've done the smart thing and gone back to simply worrying about the US. And in the US Pac easily trumps Hatton. Why you think Pac-David Diaz was on PPV and Hatton-Lazcano was on the Vesus channel? Pac has an audience here. Hatton doesn't.

Facts are Hatton needs Pac more than Pac needs him. Especally status wise. Pac can fight Marquez for the 3rd time. Or take on Valero or Campbell. Maybe get Mayweather out of retirement. Hell he's even talking stupid about facing Margarito. All them fights elevate his staus. What's Hatton going to do? Keep ruling a weak 140 division. Wins over Holt or Bradley would be nice. But do little. Marquez maybe. But Marquez wants Pac more than anything. A Mayweather rematch is a no sell without Hatton beating Pac first. And he won't go back to 147. So what's he going to do? He should take the 40% and make the fight. That 40% is still worth millions. So it's not like he's not going to eat.

Hatton-Lazcano was a comeback fight against a no-name opponent. Manny moving up to lightweight and fighting another Latino was an event that America's boxing fans wanted to see. And how many PPVs did it sell? 400 000. Hatton brings the equivalent of 600 000 PPV buys to the table from the UK only and sells thousands of tickets, turning the fight into an event. So Hatton single-handedly brings almost twice as much revenue to the table than a Manny fight has ever generated other than his fight against Oscar for which 1.4 milllion Americans paid to watch Oscar and 0.1 million Manny fans paid to watch Manny. Manny might have the number one ranking but Hatton is now far and away the number one-ranked revenue generator in boxing.

So some things we know for sure.

1. Hatton brings more money to the event than Manny.

2. Manny claimed before Oscar he only wanted big money fights in future.

3. Hatton is easily the biggest fight out there for him in terms of money. If Manny doesn't fight him he's looking at somebody like Soto or Campbell for a couple of million. Hatton can fight a tomato can in Manchester and make twice that or fight Oscar or JMM and make ten million plus, five times what Manny is looking at.

4. They both agreed on 50-50 before Christmas. Then Manny started asking for more money.

So what does that tell you?

EDIT : Manny-Diaz did 250 000 buys. He did 400 000 against JMM. So after he beat JMM it made him so popular with US boxing fans that the PPV buys almost halved for his next fight. That tells me that the bottler Manny needs a popular Latino or American fighter in the other corner to sell lots of PPVs.

yeah, and those latinos are legend in boxing. well, hatton is very famous in UK and can bring lots of money in the table and fight those no names, and no names boxer is like you fight those bums that can easily find in the streets . hehehhe peace man!

[Fenster]

As far as who brings the revenue to the fight Hatton probably brings more than Manny. Manny beating Oscar only makes him a draw with hardcore boxing fans. Put him in a PPV where his opponent isn't either American or Latino and how many buys will he sell? Hatton brings up to $30 million to the promotion just from UK TV PPV buys. That's the equivalent of 600 000 US PPV buys. Manny isn't worth 600 000 more PPV buys than Hatton to the promotion and Manny's domestic TV revenue would bring in the region of $50 000. He'll earn only a fraction of what he could make fighting Hatton for his next fight while Hatton will make ten million plus fighting somebody at Wembley. Manny bottled it.

(Or at least he may well agree in a day or a week. IIRC the Oscar negotiations went on for a couple of months and it was on again off again till they finally agreed. He already got Hatton down to 53-47, maybe it ends up 55-45. But if there's no agreement, because Manny is turning down a payday far in excess of anything else he can make fighting somebody else, he's clearly bottling the fight.)

If the fight happens it happens in the US. Not the UK. Ever since the Calzaghe-Kessler debacle (lowest HBO ratings ever) HBO has pretty much stop giving a fukk about other countries. They've done the smart thing and gone back to simply worrying about the US. And in the US Pac easily trumps Hatton. Why you think Pac-David Diaz was on PPV and Hatton-Lazcano was on the Vesus channel? Pac has an audience here. Hatton doesn't.

Facts are Hatton needs Pac more than Pac needs him. Especally status wise. Pac can fight Marquez for the 3rd time. Or take on Valero or Campbell. Maybe get Mayweather out of retirement. Hell he's even talking stupid about facing Margarito. All them fights elevate his staus. What's Hatton going to do? Keep ruling a weak 140 division. Wins over Holt or Bradley would be nice. But do little. Marquez maybe. But Marquez wants Pac more than anything. A Mayweather rematch is a no sell without Hatton beating Pac first. And he won't go back to 147. So what's he going to do? He should take the 40% and make the fight. That 40% is still worth millions. So it's not like he's not going to eat.

Hatton-Lazcano was a comeback fight against a no-name opponent. Manny moving up to lightweight and fighting another Latino was an event that America's boxing fans wanted to see. And how many PPVs did it sell? 400 000. Hatton brings the equivalent of 600 000 PPV buys to the table from the UK only and sells thousands of tickets, turning the fight into an event. So Hatton single-handedly brings almost twice as much revenue to the table than a Manny fight has ever generated other than his fight against Oscar for which 1.4 milllion Americans paid to watch Oscar and 0.1 million Manny fans paid to watch Manny. Manny might have the number one ranking but Hatton is now far and away the number one-ranked revenue generator in boxing.

So some things we know for sure.

1. Hatton brings more money to the event than Manny.

2. Manny claimed before Oscar he only wanted big money fights in future.

3. Hatton is easily the biggest fight out there for him in terms of money. If Manny doesn't fight him he's looking at somebody like Soto or Campbell for a couple of million. Hatton can fight a tomato can in Manchester and make twice that or fight Oscar or JMM and make ten million plus, five times what Manny is looking at.

4. They both agreed on 50-50 before Christmas. Then Manny started asking for more money.

So what does that tell you?

EDIT : Manny-Diaz did 250 000 buys. He did 400 000 against JMM. So after he beat JMM it made him so popular with US boxing fans that the PPV buys almost halved for his next fight. That tells me that the bottler Manny needs a popular Latino or American fighter in the other corner to sell lots of PPVs.

Ive seen that Pac-Diaz PPV figure listed as under 200,000.

And I'd like to add they sold only 8,000 tickets too

[Fenster]

Pac refusing 50-50 is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him.

Hatton pushing for 50-50 knowing he doesn't deserve it is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him

Fukk them both.

According to the article linked earlier, Hatton had gone down to a 53-47 split for Manny, & Manny still wasnt havin it

I ain't no fan of Pac. I recognize his greatness. But I'm far from a fan. I ain't no fan of Hatton either. I recognize his....his. He's got titles. I acknowledge that. But not a fan. Both these fighters have huge groupie fan clubs that rush to there defense at any posts not calling them master. All that blind lust leads to finger pointing. Neither side is capable of seeing the truth. When your on the outside looking in the truth is plain and simple.

Hatton should take his 40% and shut the fukk up. Cuz really that 40% is still to high. This fight should really be 70-30 for Pac. For one reason. And one reason only. He beat Oscar. Yes Oscar was shot. Beyound shot. But Pac still fought him and beat him. Hatton didn't. Hatton was offered the Oscar fight. But like a biitch he said no. He turned from white to yellow. If he would of took the fight and won he would be in the driver seat calling the shots. He could dictate his terms to anybody. Including Mayweather. But no. The thought of him flying into the ring post in back to back fights was haunting his dreams. So he turned the fight down. Like a biitch. Now shut the fukk up and take your 40% and be graceful your even getting that.

If Hatton should so readily take 40% how come Pac's promoter (Arum) and trainer (Roach) think he's gone CRAZY for fucking this fight up?

They think 50% is great. Which in reality means they think 50% is INCREDIBLY fucking great! Pac ain't getting a career high payday against anyone else.

Hatton brings the money. Pac has shot himself in the foot through pure GREED.

[Violent Demise]

According to the article linked earlier, Hatton had gone down to a 53-47 split for Manny, & Manny still wasnt havin it

I ain't no fan of Pac. I recognize his greatness. But I'm far from a fan. I ain't no fan of Hatton either. I recognize his....his. He's got titles. I acknowledge that. But not a fan. Both these fighters have huge groupie fan clubs that rush to there defense at any posts not calling them master. All that blind lust leads to finger pointing. Neither side is capable of seeing the truth. When your on the outside looking in the truth is plain and simple.

Hatton should take his 40% and shut the fukk up. Cuz really that 40% is still to high. This fight should really be 70-30 for Pac. For one reason. And one reason only. He beat Oscar. Yes Oscar was shot. Beyound shot. But Pac still fought him and beat him. Hatton didn't. Hatton was offered the Oscar fight. But like a biitch he said no. He turned from white to yellow. If he would of took the fight and won he would be in the driver seat calling the shots. He could dictate his terms to anybody. Including Mayweather. But no. The thought of him flying into the ring post in back to back fights was haunting his dreams. So he turned the fight down. Like a biitch. Now shut the fukk up and take your 40% and be graceful your even getting that.

If Hatton should so readily take 40% how come Pac's promoter (Arum) and trainer (Roach) think he's gone CRAZY for fucking this fight up?

They think 50% is great. Which in reality means they think 50% is INCREDIBLY fucking great! Pac ain't getting a career high payday against anyone else.

Hatton brings the money. Pac has shot himself in the foot through pure GREED.

You seriously got to ask? I expected better. Anyway, it's obvious both Arum and Roach are better off with the fight happening instead of it not happening. They both have ties to Pac. So it's either for them to try and convince Pac than it is Hatton.

And I think it's more fear than greed.

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Pac refusing 50-50 is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him.

Hatton pushing for 50-50 knowing he doesn't deserve it is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him

Fukk them both.

According to the article linked earlier, Hatton had gone down to a 53-47 split for Manny, & Manny still wasnt havin it

I ain't no fan of Pac. I recognize his greatness. But I'm far from a fan. I ain't no fan of Hatton either. I recognize his....his. He's got titles. I acknowledge that. But not a fan. Both these fighters have huge groupie fan clubs that rush to there defense at any posts not calling them master. All that blind lust leads to finger pointing. Neither side is capable of seeing the truth. When your on the outside looking in the truth is plain and simple.

Hatton should take his 40% and shut the fukk up. Cuz really that 40% is still to high. This fight should really be 70-30 for Pac. For one reason. And one reason only. He beat Oscar. Yes Oscar was shot. Beyound shot. But Pac still fought him and beat him. Hatton didn't. Hatton was offered the Oscar fight. But like a biitch he said no. He turned from white to yellow. If he would of took the fight and won he would be in the driver seat calling the shots. He could dictate his terms to anybody. Including Mayweather. But no. The thought of him flying into the ring post in back to back fights was haunting his dreams. So he turned the fight down. Like a biitch. Now shut the fukk up and take your 40% and be graceful your even getting that.

this is gonna feel awkward coz im agreeing with VD for the first time but he is right. hatton had his chance to fight oscar and he didnt. manny took the fight with a 68-32 split or somthing like that and he won the fight. now its manny's time to negotiate for a bigger split. disregard the hardcore boxing fans and followers of both men and talk to casual boxing fans and ask them who is pacman and who is hatton. most of them will tell you hatton was the man who pbf knocked out and pac is the man who beat the bigger odlh. and then ask yourselves which fighter made them buy a ppv fight?