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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
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    Why is Pac criticised?

    The real reason?

    Well, its because he's fans are among the least popular groups in boxing.

    Honestly, thats the reason.

    I don't buy that... There's no sense for that as the reason why...
    It is the truth though.

    OPacquiao would be far more popular with thegeneral boxing public if it weren't for the disdain the boxing public have for his fans.
    Are you serious?? What does Pacquiao fans had particularly done to the boxing public to get that disdain??

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    Default Re: Why PACQUIAO is always criticized with his actions?

    He deserves to be criticised here. All boxing fans were looking forward to a great match-up.

    His GREED has stumped the fight.

    His own promoter and trainer have criticised his "bizarre" actions and question whether he ever really wanted the fight. Pac clearly funked up, unless he didn't fancy facing Hatton of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    He deserves to be criticised here. All boxing fans were looking forward to a great match-up.

    His GREED has stumped the fight.

    His own promoter and trainer have criticised his "bizarre" actions and question whether he ever really wanted the fight. Pac clearly funked up, unless he didn't fancy facing Hatton of course
    His greed? What about Hatton's greed? If Hatton is only in there for a payday IMO, or he would do anything to regain his legacy. Its not Pacquiao who's legacy is in question, It was like 10 years ago the last time Pacquiao was knocked out, Hatton just got knocked out at the end 2007 against Mayweather. Pacquiao has everything to lose, Hatton has absolutely nothing to lose. For once Pacman deserves the lions share, and you think its just him? You don't think Arum has anything to do with it? Or Roach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
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    He deserves to be criticised here. All boxing fans were looking forward to a great match-up.

    His GREED has stumped the fight.

    His own promoter and trainer have criticised his "bizarre" actions and question whether he ever really wanted the fight. Pac clearly funked up, unless he didn't fancy facing Hatton of course
    His greed? What about Hatton's greed? If Hatton is only in there for a payday IMO, or he would do anything to regain his legacy. Its not Pacquiao who's legacy is in question, It was like 10 years ago the last time Pacquiao was knocked out, Hatton just got knocked out at the end 2007 against Mayweather. Pacquiao has everything to lose, Hatton has absolutely nothing to lose. For once Pacman deserves the lions share, and you think its just him? You don't think Arum has anything to do with it? Or Roach?
    For sure.. in an ideal world Hatton would say "fuck it, i'm a multi-gazillionaire, i don't mind giving him some extra dough" but it's the boxing business. Things don't work like that.

    Pac is the betting favourite not Hatton. Pac is the greedy one because he refuses to fight for what they originally agreed.

    Arum and Roach have to do with what? I don't understand what you mean
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    Default Re: Why PACQUIAO is always criticized with his actions?

    Who is in Pacquiao's ear? Roach would be right there telling him, Pacquiao you need to think about your future, you need to make more money to look after yourself. Arum makes more money if Pacquiao makes more money. Guys like Pacquiao and Cotto aren't lawyers, they go along with what Arum wants as long as they like the sound of it. WHy would anyone in Pacquiao's camp want him to fight for less money than he could potentially make? They have strong arguements for why the fight should be 60/40 in his favor, and its hard to disagree with that when your putting your life on the line.

    The fact that Hatton has recently been knocked out, the fact that he hasn't foughten the level of guys that warant him this type of fight, the fact that there are better fighers out htere with potentially the celebrity to make Pacquiao more money(like Mayweather, Margarito, Cotto), guys who are more deserving to fight him.

    You guys should realize that Hatton is lucky his name is even considered as an opponent for Pacquiao. He is lucky that his fame outweighs his ability, as good as he is.

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    Default Re: Why PACQUIAO is always criticized with his actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Who is in Pacquiao's ear? Roach would be right there telling him, Pacquiao you need to think about your future, you need to make more money to look after yourself. Arum makes more money if Pacquiao makes more money. Guys like Pacquiao and Cotto aren't lawyers, they go along with what Arum wants as long as they like the sound of it. WHy would anyone in Pacquiao's camp want him to fight for less money than he could potentially make? They have strong arguements for why the fight should be 60/40 in his favor, and its hard to disagree with that when your putting your life on the line.

    The fact that Hatton has recently been knocked out, the fact that he hasn't foughten the level of guys that warant him this type of fight, the fact that there are better fighers out htere with potentially the celebrity to make Pacquiao more money(like Mayweather, Margarito, Cotto), guys who are more deserving to fight him.

    You guys should realize that Hatton is lucky his name is even considered as an opponent for Pacquiao. He is lucky that his fame outweighs his ability, as good as he is.
    What the fuck! There's a million quotes from Arum and Roach saying Pac's CRAZY refusing a 50/50 split. It was an "unbelievable" deal.

    You need to read what they say.. let me help

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    Default Re: Why PACQUIAO is always criticized with his actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    He deserves to be criticised here. All boxing fans were looking forward to a great match-up.

    His GREED has stumped the fight.

    His own promoter and trainer have criticised his "bizarre" actions and question whether he ever really wanted the fight. Pac clearly funked up, unless he didn't fancy facing Hatton of course
    His greed? What about Hatton's greed? If Hatton is only in there for a payday IMO, or he would do anything to regain his legacy. Its not Pacquiao who's legacy is in question, It was like 10 years ago the last time Pacquiao was knocked out, Hatton just got knocked out at the end 2007 against Mayweather. Pacquiao has everything to lose, Hatton has absolutely nothing to lose. For once Pacman deserves the lions share, and you think its just him? You don't think Arum has anything to do with it? Or Roach?
    For sure.. in an ideal world Hatton would say "fuck it, i'm a multi-gazillionaire, i don't mind giving him some extra dough" but it's the boxing business. Things don't work like that.

    Pac is the betting favourite not Hatton. Pac is the greedy one because he refuses to fight for what they originally agreed.

    Arum and Roach have to do with what? I don't understand what you mean
    actually arum agreed to the 50/50 without pac knowing and suddenly tells pac no the fight wont be in england. Pac wanted the fight in england and arum denied it.

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    Default Re: Why PACQUIAO is always criticized with his actions?

    Im more of a Hatton fan then a Pac fan,but in the states Pac has all the heat marketing wise right now. United States=bigger market. Bigger market=bigger PPV buys
    If theyre mainly buying to see Pac, he should get the bigger cut,and right now thats who would be really selling it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Im more of a Hatton fan then a Pac fan,but in the states Pac has all the heat marketing wise right now. United States=bigger market. Bigger market=bigger PPV buys
    If theyre mainly buying to see Pac, he should get the bigger cut,and right now thats who would be really selling it.
    If that's the case - how come Pac's own promoter (Arum) and trainer (Roach) believe 50/50 is a great deal?
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    Default Re: Why PACQUIAO is always criticized with his actions?

    Because they would make a shit ton of money out of it

    Hitman Donny is right for the most part. Not everybody is like that but a lot of people have turned against him because of his fans, which might seem illogical but gains more momentum after reading their posts.

    He is making a mistake, even though I think he does have every right to get 60/40. Nevertheless, I think the idea that Manny Pacquaio is scared of Ricky Hatton is get the fuck out of here hilarious.

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    Default Re: Why PACQUIAO is always criticized with his actions?

    BTW what was the split between Hatton and Mayweather?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    BTW what was the split between Hatton and Mayweather?
    Not sure, but I think when all was said and done total revenues equalled about 50/50.
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    Default Re: Why PACQUIAO is always criticized with his actions?

    Hatton had ALL the UK PPV rights against Mayweather - it did about 1.3 million buys.

    Lucky fat funker ended up with $35-40 million
    Last edited by Fenster; 01-22-2009 at 05:40 PM.
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    Default Re: Why PACQUIAO is always criticized with his actions?

    softens the blow a bit

    Actually I wouldn't be shocked if this ended up getting made at some point. I haven't been following this as closely and maybe Hatton has totally moved on but Pacquaio thought he could strong arm the negotiations, at some point he's gonna realize his options are limited (or maybe there not, I guess it depends on Floyd) and swallow his pride and take the split. Or maybe he won't.

    Irrational in some ways, business wise obviously, but I see his point, he's fought everybody, come up from 112 to 147, he is THE man, Hatton's simply not, he's borderline P4P top ten.
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    Default Re: Why PACQUIAO is always criticized with his actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Im more of a Hatton fan then a Pac fan,but in the states Pac has all the heat marketing wise right now. United States=bigger market. Bigger market=bigger PPV buys
    If theyre mainly buying to see Pac, he should get the bigger cut,and right now thats who would be really selling it.
    Just curious as to why you are a bigger Hatton fan?

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