Julio Cesar Chavez

[Master]

I honestly cannot remember the term p4p best until JCC was around. I thought is came about because there were too many alphabet titles.

[CutMeMick]

I honestly cannot remember the term p4p best until JCC was around. I thought is came about because there were too many alphabet titles.

We've talked about this one before.
The 1st P4P list was made in '89 by the ring mag.
As seen on the list here:
The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

So according to the list by the ring mag. Mike Tyson was the 1st P4P fighter ever then it was JCC then Pernell.
However it is said that the term P4P was 1st used with SRR.

I think what Lyle is saying is that he could compile a list of fighters who were P4P #1 prior to the 1st list made in '89.

[Master]

Thanks I did not know that. I think JCC would have been better than Tyson p4p, even at that time.

[Spicoli]

Thanks I did not know that. I think JCC would have been better than Tyson p4p, even at that time.

Agreed.This is what I hate about p4p lists and why thay are a mind melt.Chavez blows the doors off of Tyson when it comes to all around boxing ability,level of comp,etc.Tyson was/is a household name,an explosive heavyweight making news in the ring and maybe just as much outside of it.Personally...I dont see him as a "p4p" fighter.

[porkypara]

Great fighter but was a bit of a spoilt brat when he lost or things were not going his way.

Used to love watching his fights on sky tv and itv in the 90s.

[Onix]

where did you guys buy this? where can it be ordered from?

[CutMeMick]

where did you guys buy this? where can it be ordered from?

I bought mine on Amazon.com

Amazon.com: J.C. Chavez: Mike Tyson, Don King, Diego Luna, Oscar De La Hoya, Julio C�sar Ch�vez, Steve Wynn, Carlos Salinas de Gortani, Jose Agustin, Bob Arum, Ana Guevara, Carlos Arango, Alejandro Castanos, Mariana Rodr�guez: Movies & TV

[Master]

Many great fighters are bad losers, Eric Morales comes to mind as they are not use to losing, when it happens it hurts them. they could be humble but why lie.

[porkypara]

Many great fighters are bad losers, Eric Morales comes to mind as they are not use to losing, when it happens it hurts them. they could be humble but why lie.

In his 2nd fight with Randell always springs to mind of an example of bad sportsmanship.