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    Default Re: Forgetting The Antonio Margarito Controversy I Gotta Say.

    Of GBP's grandpas (B-Hop, Hoya, Mosley, JMM), Mosley is it... He's the best grandpa in there fighting like close to prime skills and abilities...
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    For those who say it was vintage Mosely, I say they are wrong. Mosely was better tonight than he has been in the past. He threw more and was much more aggressive until he softened Margie up (which he did unlike anyone I've ever seen.) Good job Shane!

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    I think this fight was more about Margarito being overrated than Mosley being that great, I think he fought the right fight, and I give him credit for that, but he won't beat Cotto, I think even though their fight was pretty close Cotto was clearly in control for most of the fight, and if it wasn't for his cut lip I think it would have been more one sided. Cotto has speed where Margarito has none, he has really punching power, and he lands his punches cleanly where Margarito could only land glancing blows. Cotto can catch Mosley because Mosley isn't the greatest defensive fighter. Once again that was how Cotto should have fought Margarito, thats how Holyfield fought Tyson.

    Mosley looked just as good against Collazo, and look how his fight with Cotto turned out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAWGSWIN View Post
    For those who say it was vintage Mosely, I say they are wrong. Mosely was better tonight than he has been in the past. He threw more and was much more aggressive until he softened Margie up (which he did unlike anyone I've ever seen.) Good job Shane!
    Yes and no. You're right about his jab. I can't remember the last time I saw Mosley use his jab that effectively. It was one of the huge factors tonight. On the other hand. Shane pummeling Tony with right hands, going upstairs and downstairs, and snapping off vicious hooks is vintage Mosley. He brawled in spots (vintage Mosley) and used his feet and clinches to control distance (also vintage Mosley.)

    To all those who said Cotto hits harder than Shane...how you like them apples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DAWGSWIN View Post
    For those who say it was vintage Mosely, I say they are wrong. Mosely was better tonight than he has been in the past. He threw more and was much more aggressive until he softened Margie up (which he did unlike anyone I've ever seen.) Good job Shane!
    Yes and no. You're right about his jab. I can't remember the last time I saw Mosley use his jab that effectively. It was one of the huge factors tonight. On the other hand. Shane pummeling Tony with right hands, going upstairs and downstairs, and snapping off vicious hooks is vintage Mosley. He brawled in spots (vintage Mosley) and used his feet and clinches to control distance (also vintage Mosley.)

    To all those who said Cotto hits harder than Shane...how you like them apples?
    Ag6-9reed. Vintage Shane showed up 6-9.

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    Watch the Cotto-Mosley fight. Cotto was punching off his back foot against Margarito still landed harder shots, but he was beating Margarito up mentally, he wasn't stopping Margarito from landing punches, and he wasn't tiring Margarito out.

    Want another example like this
    MAyweather-Corrales vs Corrales-Castillo: Castillo landed probably 3x as many punches against Corrales, because Corrales was able to find Castillo it changes your mindset in there. Being able to hit your opponent makes you tougher, it your strength doesn't get sapped as much knowing the other guy is going through what you are. That's why Holyfield could survive against bigger heavyweights, thats why Leonard survived against Duran in their first fight.

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    Look at Cotto/Margie and look at Mosley/Margie. The size difference is remerkable...in the ring!!

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    Default Re: Forgetting The Antonio Margarito Controversy I Gotta Say.

    Quote Originally Posted by DAWGSWIN View Post
    For those who say it was vintage Mosely, I say they are wrong. Mosely was better tonight than he has been in the past. He threw more and was much more aggressive until he softened Margie up (which he did unlike anyone I've ever seen.) Good job Shane!
    His workrate was spot on. It was an almost flawless performance. The clinching was a little too much for my liking, but it was exactly what was needed in the situation. I couldnt believe it seeing that first KD, Margarito was totally out of it.

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    Default Re: Forgetting The Antonio Margarito Controversy I Gotta Say.

    I LOVED the game plan. Countering beautifully when he saw the opportunity, slipping and rolling punches, and closing the distance so Margo couldn't get the leverage he needs to punch with power. Mosley can throw some hard power shots in short range!!

    Just cause people are bringing it up, I gave Mosley the nod in his fight with Cotto. I thought it was def a close fight, maybe even a draw. But Mosley came on strong in the last half of the fight and I felt he did enough to take it to the champion (Cotto at the time). IMO, if you choose whether to start strong or finish strong, the guy who can do it during the championship rounds gets more credit. I haven't seen the fight a second time, but if I remember correctly, I had Shane winning a close fight...

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    Default Re: Forgetting The Antonio Margarito Controversy I Gotta Say.

    Cotto clearly won the fihgt, and came stronger himself at the very end. Mosley was also given credit for a lot of right hands that weren't really landing. Don't get me wrong, he did land his share of right hands, but not as many as Lampley was making it out to be, Cotto was slipping a lot of them.

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