~ SSM vs. Margartio ~ Let's talk here!

[Gandalf]

It was a brilliant showing. I actually dont think Mosley was that bad against Mayorga. I think a lot of people underestimate Mayorga, he's a tough awkward fighter. The Cotto fight was also very, very close. So Mosley hadnt slipped all that much IMO.

But he absolutely destroyed Margarito. No room for any doubts there. And it sets up a Cotto rematch brilliantly. I would much rather see that than Cotto:Margarito 2. Margarito doesnt deserve another pay day so quickly, especially if this hand wrap situation is confirmed.

[Gandalf]

It was a brilliant showing. I actually dont think Mosley was that bad against Mayorga. I think a lot of people underestimate Mayorga, he's a tough awkward fighter. The Cotto fight was also very, very close. So Mosley hadnt slipped all that much IMO.

But he absolutely destroyed Margarito. No room for any doubts there. And it sets up a Cotto rematch brilliantly. I would much rather see that than Cotto:Margarito 2. Margarito doesnt deserve another pay day so quickly, especially if this hand wrap situation is confirmed.

Actually, who am I kidding?? I would love to see Cotto beat up Margarito in a rematch. All good fights to be made. Cotto deserves his revenge. But a Mosley: Cotto rematch is an enticing one.

[XaduBoxer]

Of GBP's grandpas (B-Hop, Hoya, Mosley, JMM), Mosley is it... He's the best grandpa in there fighting like close to prime skills and abilities...
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[Diane]

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[RozzySean]

I didn't give Shane enough credit. I picked Shane to win in the KS sportsbook, but I wimped out in in the pred contest by picking him by SD instead of KO or UD. I thought he would win a close decision. I never envisioned Shane knocking Tony out. I wish I would have known about Tony's handwraps. Then I might have called the fight exactly.

Shane is once of my favorites and I've been defending him for ages on this board. Not too many of us gave him a chance. If anybody predicted KO for Shane, I bow down to your awesomeness. I knew Mosley was going to to give Tony problems. Let me repeat...Shane has only lost to fighters who can outjab him. I put too much stock in Tony's destruction of Cotto (little did I know Tony had illegal wraps for that one). It was that power that made me think it would be a close fight. Who was it that said Mosley was more brawler than boxer and wasn't a good counterpuncher? Taeth, care to eat some crow, along with several others. Ha Ha Ha. Go back to abusing yourself over your posters of Floyd Mayweather.

Ice, thanks for giving my man his props. We've debated the greatnesses of Mosley before. Now you know and you give credit where it's deserved. That's why I give you all respect on this forum. You're a real fan of the sport and you give credit where it's due, even if you've taken different positions at other times. Rock on, buddy

I'm so sad to hear about Tony using illegal wraps. (or his team, seriously, maybe he didn't know. I just can't believe Tony was intentionally cheating. I can believe his trainer cheated, but please, I don't want to believe that Tony is a cheater) I'm a huge Margarito fan and part of me was pulling for him to pull out a close decision. I hope that's not the reason why he beat Cotto, but we will never know. It puts a cloud over Tony's other accomplishments, and it will give people an excuse to take away from Shane's brilliant performance, perhaps the best of his career considering his age. It's a bittersweet night. I take no pleasure in seeing Tony fall. I'm just happy to see Shane succeed.

[Diane]

[DAWGSWIN]

For those who say it was vintage Mosely, I say they are wrong. Mosely was better tonight than he has been in the past. He threw more and was much more aggressive until he softened Margie up (which he did unlike anyone I've ever seen.) Good job Shane!

[Taeth]

I think this fight was more about Margarito being overrated than Mosley being that great, I think he fought the right fight, and I give him credit for that, but he won't beat Cotto, I think even though their fight was pretty close Cotto was clearly in control for most of the fight, and if it wasn't for his cut lip I think it would have been more one sided. Cotto has speed where Margarito has none, he has really punching power, and he lands his punches cleanly where Margarito could only land glancing blows. Cotto can catch Mosley because Mosley isn't the greatest defensive fighter. Once again that was how Cotto should have fought Margarito, thats how Holyfield fought Tyson.

Mosley looked just as good against Collazo, and look how his fight with Cotto turned out.

[killersheep]

Man, that happened exactly opposite of how I predicted it. That's why I love boxing. Big ups to Sugar, he had the plan and execution of that plan. Slowmo replays were made for guys like Mosley, some of the blocks and parries he did tonight were unreal. I still have a lot of respect for Margarito, I think he needs to learn how to fight outside, that's the lesson here. I still maintain Margarito has a great chin, those shots landed that cleanly on anyone else at 147 I think it would have been over sooner.

[RozzySean]

For those who say it was vintage Mosely, I say they are wrong. Mosely was better tonight than he has been in the past. He threw more and was much more aggressive until he softened Margie up (which he did unlike anyone I've ever seen.) Good job Shane!

Yes and no. You're right about his jab. I can't remember the last time I saw Mosley use his jab that effectively. It was one of the huge factors tonight. On the other hand. Shane pummeling Tony with right hands, going upstairs and downstairs, and snapping off vicious hooks is vintage Mosley. He brawled in spots (vintage Mosley) and used his feet and clinches to control distance (also vintage Mosley.)

To all those who said Cotto hits harder than Shane...how you like them apples?

[Gandalf]

For those who say it was vintage Mosely, I say they are wrong. Mosely was better tonight than he has been in the past. He threw more and was much more aggressive until he softened Margie up (which he did unlike anyone I've ever seen.) Good job Shane!

His workrate was spot on. It was an almost flawless performance. The clinching was a little too much for my liking, but it was exactly what was needed in the situation. I couldnt believe it seeing that first KD, Margarito was totally out of it.

[C-Lo]

I LOVED the game plan. Countering beautifully when he saw the opportunity, slipping and rolling punches, and closing the distance so Margo couldn't get the leverage he needs to punch with power. Mosley can throw some hard power shots in short range!!

Just cause people are bringing it up, I gave Mosley the nod in his fight with Cotto. I thought it was def a close fight, maybe even a draw. But Mosley came on strong in the last half of the fight and I felt he did enough to take it to the champion (Cotto at the time). IMO, if you choose whether to start strong or finish strong, the guy who can do it during the championship rounds gets more credit. I haven't seen the fight a second time, but if I remember correctly, I had Shane winning a close fight...

[RozzySean]

Man, that happened exactly opposite of how I predicted it. That's why I love boxing. Big ups to Sugar, he had the plan and execution of that plan. Slowmo replays were made for guys like Mosley, some of the blocks and parries he did tonight were unreal. I still have a lot of respect for Margarito, I think he needs to learn how to fight outside, that's the lesson here. I still maintain Margarito has a great chin, those shots landed that cleanly on anyone else at 147 I think it would have been over sooner.

True True. Tony ate some monster shots. Take nothing away from Tony. He fights great, but Mosley is a great fighter Part of me hope Shane will retire now, on top, with this victory answering any questions about his legacy and place in boxing history. He should have gotten rid of that wife a long time ago

[mrbig1]

The fight went the way I thought it would. You keep A.M. in the center of the ring he's nothing. Cotto could have beaten A.M. but he just fought the wrong fight. Cotto was his master in the center of the ring. Once his back was to the ropes is when A.M. took over. Mosleys back never touch the ropes. He kept A.M. in the center of the ring. Boxing is not a back ally brawl. It's a sport, It's art. Skill and talent are still the keys to victory.

[Taeth]

Cotto clearly won the fihgt, and came stronger himself at the very end. Mosley was also given credit for a lot of right hands that weren't really landing. Don't get me wrong, he did land his share of right hands, but not as many as Lampley was making it out to be, Cotto was slipping a lot of them.