Margaritos Camp Offers An Explanation

[Trainer Monkey]

Really RP?
There were rumors floating for years that Craig Nettles was corking his bat,it took the thing exploding for him to finally get caught.
Gaylord Perry is in the Hall Of Fame, and he bluntly said his best pitch was a spitball
Both of those are illegal,though I will say,I have no idea why they are.
The rules call for a wooden bat and your own physical skills.So who cares if the bats hollow,or one of your physical skills is to hock a luger on cue?
Never really understood those two rules. I can see bringing in a foriegn object to scuff the ball,or loading your bat with lead shot to get more oomph behind it.

[amat]

You don't know why corking a bat is illegal? Really? The ball has a cork center, cork on cork = ball goes farther.

In every sport if you aren't cheating you aren't trying. John Ruiz and the Klitschkos have bent the rules to heavyweight titles. But you can't load your gloves, you just can't. That kills people I'm shocked there isn't more outrage over this. Needs a full investigation if the CSAC can't handle it then the feds should imo. That doesn't mean you turn into Danny G but that's really bad that a fighter in the post-Billy Collins era would ever be caught with loaded gloves.

[Trainer Monkey]

You don't know why corking a bat is illegal? Really? The ball has a cork center, cork on cork = ball goes farther.

In every sport if you aren't cheating you aren't trying. John Ruiz and the Klitschkos have bent the rules to heavyweight titles. But you can't load your gloves, you just can't. That kills people I'm shocked there isn't more outrage over this. Needs a full investigation if the CSAC can't handle it then the feds should imo. That doesn't mean you turn into Danny G but that's really bad that a fighter in the post-Billy Collins era would ever be caught with loaded gloves.

Actually the reason to cork is it increases your hand speed through the strike zone so you can sit on a pitch longer.
But its still a wooden bat.
How you cork a bat doesnt involve alot of cork,you bore out the center and pack it with wood shavings,the cork part is,you put cork over the hole,and cover it with wood glue.
It still has enough size to catch the ball in the zone but it allows the batter to sit on a changeup or a curve a little longer.

[killersheep]

Where is the WBA in all this? This was a WBA title fight correct, shouldn't they shoulder some responsibility in checking equipment prior to the fight?
Shouldn't this be part of the sanctioning bodies tasks?

Maybe I'm out of line here, but my interpretation of "sanctioning" is saying this is a legal title fight.

[Trainer Monkey]

Where is the WBA in all this? This was a WBA title fight correct, shouldn't they shoulder some responsibility in checking equipment prior to the fight?
Shouldn't this be part of the sanctioning bodies tasks?

Maybe I'm out of line here, but my interpretation of "sanctioning" is saying this is a legal title fight.

The state has to sanction the bout as well,its not just up to the WBA. So if the state athletic commission doesnt like it,you cease to have a fight.

[killersheep]

Where is the WBA in all this? This was a WBA title fight correct, shouldn't they shoulder some responsibility in checking equipment prior to the fight?
Shouldn't this be part of the sanctioning bodies tasks?

Maybe I'm out of line here, but my interpretation of "sanctioning" is saying this is a legal title fight.

The state has to sanction the bout as well,its not just up to the WBA. So if the state athletic commission doesnt like it,you cease to have a fight.

Fine, why weren't either the California State Athletic Commision OR the WBA involved, between the money in sanctioning fees these two organizations get SOME of it should surely go to making sure the equipment is up to code.

[Julius Rain]

I hope it isnt true, loading up your glove is a serious crime. I'd hate for tony to do jail time, he just doesn't seem to be that type of guy. I really believe he had no idea if his gloves were loaded. As much as I loved how shane won, I think they totally fucked up tony's concentration with this bullshit. Im not making excuses for tony but anybody who is getting ready to go into a fight after a long long preperation and training period, would have flash backs of his accomplishment and worry he would be accuse of something very serious.

Another person im worried about is cotto, heres a young undefeated guy who has all the potential to be one of the greatest. Yet he loses to tony who is currently under investigation. I have questions like, what if cotto will never be the same fighter after that devestating defeat to tony and he lost because tonys gloves were loaded. it would be a real shame, that is why i can not get mad at guys like danny g.

I just hope this turns out to be nothing and cottos lost to tony is legit, and they both carry on their careers.

[Macho]

The people have to understand when boxers going to fight should use a new dry Hand-Wraps for boxing , not that humid Hand-Wraps or gauze with sustance for feel more harder their fist ,that was that created the big issue , i hope all this thing is not true , this will affect all Margaros career ....................Is sad to see all of this issue

[Trainer Monkey]

Where is the WBA in all this? This was a WBA title fight correct, shouldn't they shoulder some responsibility in checking equipment prior to the fight?
Shouldn't this be part of the sanctioning bodies tasks?

Maybe I'm out of line here, but my interpretation of "sanctioning" is saying this is a legal title fight.

The state has to sanction the bout as well,its not just up to the WBA. So if the state athletic commission doesnt like it,you cease to have a fight.

Fine, why weren't either the California State Athletic Commision OR the WBA involved, between the money in sanctioning fees these two organizations get SOME of it should surely go to making sure the equipment is up to code.

My bet is somebody in Mosely's camp knew he was juicing his wraps.They dont check wraps that heavily normally. The guys both train within miles of each other,so its not beyond the pale that someone who was in Mosely's camp used to be in Margarito's.
My bet is somebody quietly said,"You wanna check his wraps". And Id think the quiet voice had to be pretty sure,before he wanted a double check.
I still hope this all turns out to be BS,because Margarito is a fun fighter to watch. But hearing that explanation makes me seriously consider that it isnt.

[killersheep]

The state has to sanction the bout as well,its not just up to the WBA. So if the state athletic commission doesnt like it,you cease to have a fight.

Fine, why weren't either the California State Athletic Commision OR the WBA involved, between the money in sanctioning fees these two organizations get SOME of it should surely go to making sure the equipment is up to code.

My bet is somebody in Mosely's camp knew he was juicing his wraps.They dont check wraps that heavily normally. The guys both train within miles of each other,so its not beyond the pale that someone who was in Mosely's camp used to be in Margarito's.
My bet is somebody quietly said,"You wanna check his wraps". And Id think the quiet voice had to be pretty sure,before he wanted a double check.
I still hope this all turns out to be BS,because Margarito is a fun fighter to watch. But hearing that explanation makes me seriously consider that it isnt.

So you are just going to dissect my question instead of answering it?

[Julius Rain]

this is bad, i hope tony is innecent.

[JazMerkin]

That explanation sounds like a steaming pile of shit, although I'm hoping this ain't true, partly because of the respect I have for Margarito even if I ain't particularly a fan of his, and secondly because boxing really doesn't need this right now

[Trainer Monkey]

That explanation sounds like a steaming pile of shit, although I'm hoping this ain't true, partly because of the respect I have for Margarito even if I ain't particularly a fan of his, and secondly because boxing really doesn't need this right now

Dont get me wrong,I like Margarito,but if this is the best explanation his camp can offer..............
Somebody is getting suspended
I hope this turns out to be nothing for his sake,because if it turns out to be for real,he is in deep trouble.

[Spicoli]

I dont like it.Lets be very clear,nothing is conclusive and finalized regarding this weekend.I can not and will not speculate and cast out a mans career and charectar on speculation and inconclusive circumstances.From what Ive seen live and on video post Cotto in the ring,there was a man with zero to hide,oblivious to wrong doing and flaunting his wraps all over for all to see.There are MANY people that have questions to answer,A fighter stands alone in the ring...but before and after they rely on Commissions,Santioning bodies,the State officials and his handlers to take care of surrounding aspects and enforcing the rules.Tony will and has taken the hit alone though.Frankly,my mind is pretty fukked up right now.