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Mosley beats Mayweather if Mayweather comes in undertrained and rusty. I don't see Mayweather ever coming into a fight like that. Mayweather always trains like a fiend and he's too much of a natural boxer to ever be extremely rusty. Plus, he still workouts.

In terms of styles, I think Mosley has a hard matchup with Floyd. Mosley has basically fought the same type of fighter for too long IMO. Collazo is a little slick but he's not elite and broke his thumb in the second round of that fight. Margarito, Mayorga, Vargas, and Cotto would all put pressure on Mosley which allowed Mosley to have a stationery target to land combinations and use his handspeed. Cotto has boxing skills that Tony, Mayorga, and Vargas (at that point in his career) didn't have. Cotto was able to box effectively on the move at times with Shane and that's what got him the decision. Mayweather won't be the aggressor in the fight so Shane won't have a stationery target to land combinations on. Plus, at this point the only speed Mosley has is handspeed. He's more stationary on his feet than ever, he's slow with his upper body movements, and quite honestly, his defense his always been a bit lacking. Cotto's jab gave Mosley fits and Mayweather has one of the best jabs in the game when he uses it. Mayweather's upper body speed and footwork is the best in the game behind only maybe JoeCal. I see Mosley pressuring Mayweather all fight but Mayweather's footwork and jab confusing and frustrating Mosley all night and not allowing him to get off. I also see Floyd landing a ton of clean and crisp right hand leads all night. It's a UD for Floyd with scores around 116-112 or 117-111 IMO.
same type of fighters? what do you call ,

baldomir,mitchell,gatti,hatton,delahoya....slow judah was too dumb to give floyd a good fight.

And if anybody has fallen victim to standing still its floyd. He doesnt move anywhere near as much as he used t0, because of his confidence that he can use the shell and stay on the inside. Shane would hurt him bad to the body if he did that...and if sharmba, judah, oscar, chop, caught floyd with flush punches its a no brainer that shane will.

Floyd would be tied up and manhandled on the inside against shane. from the outside shanes arms are longer and he'd find floyd with his re-invented jab. Shane v floyd is about 50/50 but with the tide rolling for mosely because he's much too strong and could kayo floyd. on floyd best night with his best shot he wouldn't kayo shane.
Dude, what are you saying right now? Judah is an extremely quick southpaw with decent power. If you notice in the Judah fight, Floyd had to be the aggressor. Hatton has some of the quickest footwork in the game (I really do think people are seriously not giving Hatton credit anymore just for losing to Floyd, I wouldn't be surprised if Hatton smothers the shit out of Manny and beats him), Mitchell is a very quick boxer though extremely undersized for 147. These guys were all different types of fighters. Margarito, Vargas, Mayorga, and to some degree Cotto, are all pretty much the same type of fighter. They aren't very quick, they come forward, and they rely on their pressure to win fights.

Shane's jab won't be as effective against Floyd because Floyd won't be coming to him. Shane's jab looked great Saturday because Margarito was coming forward with a good amount of pressure and no head movement. Shane's jab isn't the type of jab you use when you wanna setup up punches on someone like Floyd. You need a long hard jab to work your way in, not a flicking jab. If Mosley uses that type of flicking jab on a backpedaling Floyd, he's gonna get right hand counters over that jab all night.

Floyd has NEVER been hurt to the body because his defense allows him to partially block and dodge body shots. And he sees all the shots coming. I will agree with you that Shane has more power than Floyd, but Floyd has enough power to get respect from Shane. Like I said, I think it will be Floyd winning 8 or 9 of the rounds. I think it will be a great chessmatch if it happens.