For that guy (kingfrk) who said SRL didn't duck pryor...watch this..

[ICB]

well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!

You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...

Sugar Ray Leonard was at Welterweight Aaron Pryor was at Jr Welterweight. Aaron Pryor wasn't willing to move up to fight the big boys, thats why it didn't happen.

Sugar Ray Leonard fought a prime Roberto Duran, Prime Thomas Hearns, i seriously doubt he would duck Aaron Pryor.

Lastly Floyd Mayweather offered Shane Mosley the fight, but didn't Shane Mosley claim he was going on holiday or something like that ? and he turned it down.

Thats the only offer i've heard from either fighter, no one is ducking anyone and i would like to know what proof you have Floyd Mayweather ducked Shane Mosley.

[blegit]

I guess people forget when PBF called out Sugar Shane many times when Shane was cleaning out the lightweights. It was right before he moved up to welter. Sugar Shane is my favorite fighter of all time but I keep it unbiased when I know what the truth is I am not going to act like I'm ignorant and blurt out distorted information to keep the wool over people's eyes. Shane would not beat PBF. Sugar Shane was offered a fight by PBF but I don't know why it never materialized. But I never read Sugar Shane offer PBF a fight. So how do we all of a sudden have this cult of people saying PBF is ducking Sugar Shane? Hilarious, remember we had the cult of PBF ducking Vivian Harris? Then it was PBF ducking Hatton. Then it was PBF ducking Cotto. Then it was PBF ducking Margarito. Now its PBF ducking Sugar Shane. This is comical and just plain wishful hoping. You know what I am going to start the cult of Sugar Shane is ducking Paul Williams. You can't prove me wrong and since Sugar Shane isn't calling him out then all I need is anti-Sugar followers and I look legitimate. I'm not a big PBF fan but that dude is the most hated on man in all of sports. It'd be nice for him to just stay retired and laugh at his critics because whatever he does it'll never be enough to stop the ducking rants. Lets move on. There are plenty of good active fighters who need to face each other.

[JazMerkin]

I think Floyd Mayweather is blatantly ducking Sugar Ray Robinson, Roberto Duran & Julio Cesar Chavez. The pussy

[BlackRazor]

well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!

You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...

Sugar Ray Leonard was at Welterweight Aaron Pryor was at Jr Welterweight. Aaron Pryor wasn't willing to move up to fight the big boys, thats why it didn't happen.

Sugar Ray Leonard fought a prime Roberto Duran, Prime Thomas Hearns, i seriously doubt he would duck Aaron Pryor.

Lastly Floyd Mayweather offered Shane Mosley the fight, but didn't Shane Mosley claim he was going on holiday or something like that ? and he turned it down.

Thats the only offer i've heard from either fighter, no one is ducking anyone and i would like to know what proof you have Floyd Mayweather ducked Shane Mosley.

Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?

[JonesJrMayweather]

well now, if a fighter today, went on national tv says he wants to fight a guy, then shows up after cleaning out his divison and says "i mightaswell move up and fight you." and he dismisses it...he's ducking!!!!

You see in the video, SRL wanted no part of pryor....the same and PBF and SSM...he's clearly ducking shane. But Shane beating margo forces PBF to either stay retired, or fight PACMAN if he beats hatton. SO after hatton beats pacman...floyd will stay retired. if pacman wins, you will see floyd pull a bitch move and try to jusitfy a fight with PACMAN of Shane...

Sugar Ray Leonard was at Welterweight Aaron Pryor was at Jr Welterweight. Aaron Pryor wasn't willing to move up to fight the big boys, thats why it didn't happen.

Sugar Ray Leonard fought a prime Roberto Duran, Prime Thomas Hearns, i seriously doubt he would duck Aaron Pryor.

Lastly Floyd Mayweather offered Shane Mosley the fight, but didn't Shane Mosley claim he was going on holiday or something like that ? and he turned it down.

Thats the only offer i've heard from either fighter, no one is ducking anyone and i would like to know what proof you have Floyd Mayweather ducked Shane Mosley.

Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?

look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"

[BlackRazor]

Sugar Ray Leonard was at Welterweight Aaron Pryor was at Jr Welterweight. Aaron Pryor wasn't willing to move up to fight the big boys, thats why it didn't happen.

Sugar Ray Leonard fought a prime Roberto Duran, Prime Thomas Hearns, i seriously doubt he would duck Aaron Pryor.

Lastly Floyd Mayweather offered Shane Mosley the fight, but didn't Shane Mosley claim he was going on holiday or something like that ? and he turned it down.

Thats the only offer i've heard from either fighter, no one is ducking anyone and i would like to know what proof you have Floyd Mayweather ducked Shane Mosley.

Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?

look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"

I will, can't do that @ work. But that doesn't change the fact that if he took the best punch Hearns could throw @ him, what would Aaron have that's worse? Who knows, maybe there was a Manny/Hatton tug of war going on back then too but behind the scenes. Maybe Ray wanted a larger slice of the pie than Pryor was willing to accept.

[ICB]

Sugar Ray Leonard was at Welterweight Aaron Pryor was at Jr Welterweight. Aaron Pryor wasn't willing to move up to fight the big boys, thats why it didn't happen.

Sugar Ray Leonard fought a prime Roberto Duran, Prime Thomas Hearns, i seriously doubt he would duck Aaron Pryor.

Lastly Floyd Mayweather offered Shane Mosley the fight, but didn't Shane Mosley claim he was going on holiday or something like that ? and he turned it down.

Thats the only offer i've heard from either fighter, no one is ducking anyone and i would like to know what proof you have Floyd Mayweather ducked Shane Mosley.

Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?

look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"

Saying and doing is two totally different things, if Aaron Pryor really wanted the fight that bad he would of moved up. But he didn't and Sugar Ray Leonard would never move down to Jr Welterweight, because he's too big for that division.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?

look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"

Saying and doing is two totally different things, if Aaron Pryor really wanted the fight that bad he would of moved up. But he didn't and Sugar Ray Leonard would never move down to Jr Welterweight, because he's too big for that division.

whats the point in moving up if the guy isn't offering you the fight? which is another good question to ask...Why didn't leonard sign him to a fight and make him come up to 147?

If leonard fought "everybody" but pryor, who ended his career with one loss, why didn't he fight pryor?

[CGM]

Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?

look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"

Saying and doing is two totally different things, if Aaron Pryor really wanted the fight that bad he would of moved up. But he didn't and Sugar Ray Leonard would never move down to Jr Welterweight, because he's too big for that division.

Right you are Ice.

But lets also take a close look at the guy who fought and beat Benitez, Duran, Hearns, then fought Hagler coming off a three year break, and ask whether anyone could seriously believe that Leonard was afraid of Pryor. I think not. Props to the JJrFloydguy for getting poeple's attention tho.

[JonesJrMayweather]

look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"

Saying and doing is two totally different things, if Aaron Pryor really wanted the fight that bad he would of moved up. But he didn't and Sugar Ray Leonard would never move down to Jr Welterweight, because he's too big for that division.

Right you are Ice.

But lets also take a close look at the guy who fought and beat Benitez, Duran, Hearns, then fought Hagler coming off a three year break, and ask whether anyone could seriously believe that Leonard was afraid of Pryor. I think not. Props to the JJrFloydguy for getting poeple's attention tho.

I don't think many people have seen pryor fight...SRL was great but he avoided Pryor..and pryor would have fought him because he was hungry and wanted a big payday like hearns, and SRL were getting.

Not saying SRL would have lost, just stating the fact that he was challenged by Pryor numerous times and nothing. It's just odd. Its not like Pryor wasn't worthy in terms of skills. But maybe in terms of selling then yeah.

[kingfrnk]

Sugar Ray Leonard was at Welterweight Aaron Pryor was at Jr Welterweight. Aaron Pryor wasn't willing to move up to fight the big boys, thats why it didn't happen.

Sugar Ray Leonard fought a prime Roberto Duran, Prime Thomas Hearns, i seriously doubt he would duck Aaron Pryor.

Lastly Floyd Mayweather offered Shane Mosley the fight, but didn't Shane Mosley claim he was going on holiday or something like that ? and he turned it down.

Thats the only offer i've heard from either fighter, no one is ducking anyone and i would like to know what proof you have Floyd Mayweather ducked Shane Mosley.

Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?

look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"

so that means jack shit. SRL beat way better fighters like Benitez, Hearns who were both undefeated Champions and Duran. and just cause Pryor beats Arguello and calls out SRL that means hes ducking Pryor?? thats like that video when Margarito asks floyd to fight him im sure you seen that.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Yeah, great points! I find it hard to believe Ray was afraid of Aaron when he fought all the guys you listed. Also, if Aaron really wanted Ray that badly, why didn't he move up to 147 & win a title there or at least move up to 147 & look impressive @ that weight to force a fight with Ray? Aaron fought @ 140 & below until 1985. In 1987 he fought Bobby Joe Young @ 148 & was stopped in the 7th for his only loss. Aaron was a great puncher @ 140 but Ray took the bombs Hearns threw so I think he could handle Aaron's power @ 147. Aaron was able to take the shots from Alexis (a LW moving up & past his prime) @ 140 but would Aaron have been able to take Ray's best shots (left hook) @ 147?

look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"

so that means jack shit. SRL beat way better fighters like Benitez, Hearns who were both undefeated Champions and Duran. and just cause Pryor beats Arguello and calls out SRL that means hes ducking Pryor?? thats like that video when Margarito asks floyd to fight him im sure you seen that.

he called out SRL before he fought arguello...he fought arguello because leonard and hearns wanted no part of him...so back down the emotion..its okay these guy are still just men. they can be beaten and its quite possible that there are some fighters that arent worth the risk. and pryor was one of them....Let's see..."fight pryor, for less money, but lose the aura of being unbeatable." Pryor was an amateur olympic contender and had skill margarito is no pryor...pryor was just as everybit of good and leonard, hearns, duran, and the rest of those guys from that era.

[kingfrnk]

look at the video....pryor walk up to him and says "i beat everyone at JW i might as well come up and fight you, i want to fight"

so that means jack shit. SRL beat way better fighters like Benitez, Hearns who were both undefeated Champions and Duran. and just cause Pryor beats Arguello and calls out SRL that means hes ducking Pryor?? thats like that video when Margarito asks floyd to fight him im sure you seen that.

he called out SRL before he fought arguello...he fought arguello because leonard and hearns wanted no part of him...so back down the emotion..its okay these guy are still just men. they can be beaten and its quite possible that there are some fighters that arent worth the risk. and pryor was one of them....Let's see..."fight pryor, for less money, but lose the aura of being unbeatable." Pryor was an amateur olympic contender and had skill margarito is no pryor...pryor was just as everybit of good and leonard, hearns, duran, and the rest of those guys from that era.

the point is like ICB said if Pryor wanted the fight he should have went up in weight thats it point made debate over.

[JonesJrMayweather]

so that means jack shit. SRL beat way better fighters like Benitez, Hearns who were both undefeated Champions and Duran. and just cause Pryor beats Arguello and calls out SRL that means hes ducking Pryor?? thats like that video when Margarito asks floyd to fight him im sure you seen that.

he called out SRL before he fought arguello...he fought arguello because leonard and hearns wanted no part of him...so back down the emotion..its okay these guy are still just men. they can be beaten and its quite possible that there are some fighters that arent worth the risk. and pryor was one of them....Let's see..."fight pryor, for less money, but lose the aura of being unbeatable." Pryor was an amateur olympic contender and had skill margarito is no pryor...pryor was just as everybit of good and leonard, hearns, duran, and the rest of those guys from that era.

the point is like ICB said if Pryor wanted the fight he should have went up in weight thats it point made debate over.

what sense would it make to go up if leonard wasn't going to fight him, thats retarded....