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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    I personally would have Dawson at 10.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Caballero's wins over Ponce De Leon, Somsak, Lorenzo Parra, Steve Molitor got some recognition...

    Roberto Duran might also have elevated Caballero's popularity...
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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    I had no idea Caballero was closing in on the top 10 p4p. I thought he would be in the 14-20 range.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    he should go up two DIVISION'S

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Should of been in there after beating Parra.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Should of been in there after beating Parra.
    Certainly debatable but I think maybe he should have, you can make that case for many other fighters though.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Should of been in there after beating Parra.
    Certainly debatable but I think maybe he should have, you can make that case for many other fighters though.
    I agree. There other fighters that are worthy. But I like the Caballero choice. Molitor was far from great. And I think will wind up being an overrated fighter (if he's not already). But he was undefeated. And had a following of believers. Caballero deserves credit for exposing him.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    disagree
    but he wont be up there for long if someone get an impressive win he'll get knockdown like paul williams

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    I personally would have Dawson at 10.
    Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    I personally would have Dawson at 10.
    Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.
    What about Tomasz Adamek ? Eric Harding ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    I personally would have Dawson at 10.
    Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.
    What about Tomasz Adamek ? Eric Harding ?
    Eric Harding didn't mean shit at that point of Harding's career. Adamek on the other hand is a huge win. Still, Point in fact Caballero is a unified strap holder in one of, if not the deepest division in boxing. His wins over an undefeated DPDL and Molitor are a huge acheivement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.
    What about Tomasz Adamek ? Eric Harding ?
    Eric Harding didn't mean shit at that point of Harding's career. Adamek on the other hand is a huge win. Still, Point in fact Caballero is a unified strap holder in one of, if not the deepest division in boxing. His wins over an undefeated DPDL and Molitor are a huge acheivement.
    It still was a good win regardless yes Eric Harding wasn't in his prime, but he was still a good fighter who was atleast top 6 in the division if my memory serves me right.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    What about Tomasz Adamek ? Eric Harding ?
    Eric Harding didn't mean shit at that point of Harding's career. Adamek on the other hand is a huge win. Still, Point in fact Caballero is a unified strap holder in one of, if not the deepest division in boxing. His wins over an undefeated DPDL and Molitor are a huge acheivement.
    It still was a good win regardless yes Eric Harding wasn't in his prime, but he was still a good fighter who was atleast top 6 in the division if my memory serves me right.
    At the end of the day, Dawson's time is coming, Caballero's time is now.
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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    Eric Harding didn't mean shit at that point of Harding's career. Adamek on the other hand is a huge win. Still, Point in fact Caballero is a unified strap holder in one of, if not the deepest division in boxing. His wins over an undefeated DPDL and Molitor are a huge acheivement.
    It still was a good win regardless yes Eric Harding wasn't in his prime, but he was still a good fighter who was atleast top 6 in the division if my memory serves me right.
    At the end of the day, Dawson's time is coming, Caballero's time is now.
    Sheep is right. Dawson deserves to be near the top ten, but not quite there.

    Speaking of Adamek, if he beats Banks, in the last year and a half he has beat three top ten cruiserweights in Banks, Bell, and Cunningham.

    If Pwill beats Winkie, he too has an argument for the top ten.

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    Default Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post

    Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.
    What about Tomasz Adamek ? Eric Harding ?
    Eric Harding didn't mean shit at that point of Harding's career. Adamek on the other hand is a huge win. Still, Point in fact Caballero is a unified strap holder in one of, if not the deepest division in boxing. His wins over an undefeated DPDL and Molitor are a huge acheivement.
    I think Adamek and Tarver are bigger wins than Molitor and De Leon personally, Adamek is now the Ring Champion at cruiserweight and Tarver has been the Ring Champ at light heavyweight and looked great in regaining his title over Clinton Woods in the fight prior.

    I like Molitor but let's be real he was a paper champ, hadn't fought anyone remotely world class. De Leon, well I think he's been exposed a bit now.

    Cabellero is definitely fighting in the strongest division, but he's not faced any of the best in that division yet, Vazquez, Marquez, Lopez are still fights that need to be made.

    But I don't really object to him being there, he certainly looked great in taking Molitor apart and he'll spell trouble for anyone in that division.

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