So many so called PBF supporters have short memories

[JonesJrMayweather]

What fighter that has fought PBF would you A.) consider accurate and B.) come close to being able to load up on a punch powerful enough to break his ribs?

I think you're exaggerating QUITE a bit. Floyd is accurate as HELL with ALL of his punches.

Shane has a hell of a chin, there is no question about that, but just like many of PBF's opponents, they don't realize how effective he is even though he is not a huge power puncher. If you're connecting flush on a lead right hand with all of your weight behind it, you will feel it. You say Floyd "sits and calculates his shots", as if while he's "sitting" he's hittable. No, Floyd is a PATIENT fighter who throws when he knows he has the highest chance to land a punch. You're implying that he sits lazily or something..

Floyd has fought harder punchers, and they haven't broke his defense nor landed flush often during a fight.. TOUGH, i will give you.. But too strong and too quick?! That just makes you sound like you haven't seen PBF fight.

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

The "older" memebers of the forum will call you an IDIOT for that post.

Judah is a good fighter, and Floyd probably lost more than the first few rounds, got hit with a good shot and ALMOST got knocked down. To say dropped is simply fabricating what happened to attempt to prove your first, useless point of this thread. A sign of desperation.

Did you miss the part where Floyd destroyed Judah after that? Or did you just "watch the highlights"?

You say he doesn't have power at 140 and up. Someone posts that he KO'd Hatton, and then you call Hatton a smaller guy.. Remind me where Hatton normally fights? I'm PRETTY sure it's 140. So you're contradicting yourself a bit.

Go away.

Floyd wouldnt kayo hatton at 140....hatton is too high at 147...floyd hasn't fought anybody prime other than ricky since moving up from 135.

Career vs career shane has fought and beat better guys than PBF....hands down.

Mn i'll be glad when this does happen, and floyd will possibly lose. if he doesn't lose then it will be because he fought the greatest fight of his life. Shane will ask qustions of floyd that floyd has never had to answer...

Floyd has fought boxers (manfredy,), he's fought speed (judah), he's fought strong guys (baldomir) he's fought pressure (hatton) and he's fought boxers with power (oscar) but he has never fought a fighter that possessed all of those combined and shane at 147 is that. Floyd would have to fight the fight of his life to beat shane. even then it would be a close decision.

135 version of shane stops floyd late....

[RP33]

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

The "older" memebers of the forum will call you an IDIOT for that post.

Judah is a good fighter, and Floyd probably lost more than the first few rounds, got hit with a good shot and ALMOST got knocked down. To say dropped is simply fabricating what happened to attempt to prove your first, useless point of this thread. A sign of desperation.

Did you miss the part where Floyd destroyed Judah after that? Or did you just "watch the highlights"?

You say he doesn't have power at 140 and up. Someone posts that he KO'd Hatton, and then you call Hatton a smaller guy.. Remind me where Hatton normally fights? I'm PRETTY sure it's 140. So you're contradicting yourself a bit.

Go away.

Floyd wouldnt kayo hatton at 140....hatton is too high at 147...floyd hasn't fought anybody prime other than ricky since moving up from 135.

Career vs career shane has fought and beat better guys than PBF....hands down.

Mn i'll be glad when this does happen, and floyd will possibly lose. if he doesn't lose then it will be because he fought the greatest fight of his life. Shane will ask qustions of floyd that floyd has never had to answer...

Floyd has fought boxers (manfredy,), he's fought speed (judah), he's fought strong guys (baldomir) he's fought pressure (hatton) and he's fought boxers with power (oscar) but he has never fought a fighter that possessed all of those combined and shane at 147 is that. Floyd would have to fight the fight of his life to beat shane. even then it would be a close decision.

135 version of shane stops floyd late....

Entertain me and tell me when Floyd hasn't fought the fight of his life. When has anyone criticized Floyd's strategy in a fight. After his fights no one says "Floyd should have stayed on the outside more" "Floyd should've stayed off the ropes".

With the exception of JLC 1, where Floyd was in the most trouble he has ever been in, when has he not performed 100%?

[JonesJrMayweather]

The "older" memebers of the forum will call you an IDIOT for that post.

Judah is a good fighter, and Floyd probably lost more than the first few rounds, got hit with a good shot and ALMOST got knocked down. To say dropped is simply fabricating what happened to attempt to prove your first, useless point of this thread. A sign of desperation.

Did you miss the part where Floyd destroyed Judah after that? Or did you just "watch the highlights"?

You say he doesn't have power at 140 and up. Someone posts that he KO'd Hatton, and then you call Hatton a smaller guy.. Remind me where Hatton normally fights? I'm PRETTY sure it's 140. So you're contradicting yourself a bit.

Go away.

Floyd wouldnt kayo hatton at 140....hatton is too high at 147...floyd hasn't fought anybody prime other than ricky since moving up from 135.

Career vs career shane has fought and beat better guys than PBF....hands down.

Mn i'll be glad when this does happen, and floyd will possibly lose. if he doesn't lose then it will be because he fought the greatest fight of his life. Shane will ask qustions of floyd that floyd has never had to answer...

Floyd has fought boxers (manfredy,), he's fought speed (judah), he's fought strong guys (baldomir) he's fought pressure (hatton) and he's fought boxers with power (oscar) but he has never fought a fighter that possessed all of those combined and shane at 147 is that. Floyd would have to fight the fight of his life to beat shane. even then it would be a close decision.

135 version of shane stops floyd late....

Entertain me and tell me when Floyd hasn't fought the fight of his life. When has anyone criticized Floyd's strategy in a fight. After his fights no one says "Floyd should have stayed on the outside more" "Floyd should've stayed off the ropes".

With the exception of JLC 1, where Floyd was in the most trouble he has ever been in, when has he not performed 100%?

pbf has never had a fight where he NEEDED all of his skills throughout the fight....in castillo 1 that was more of floyd thinking that castillo was going to roll over and gie him his belt because floyd was the up and coming champ from 130....

[ICB]

Floyd wouldnt kayo hatton at 140....hatton is too high at 147...floyd hasn't fought anybody prime other than ricky since moving up from 135.

Career vs career shane has fought and beat better guys than PBF....hands down.

Mn i'll be glad when this does happen, and floyd will possibly lose. if he doesn't lose then it will be because he fought the greatest fight of his life. Shane will ask qustions of floyd that floyd has never had to answer...

Floyd has fought boxers (manfredy,), he's fought speed (judah), he's fought strong guys (baldomir) he's fought pressure (hatton) and he's fought boxers with power (oscar) but he has never fought a fighter that possessed all of those combined and shane at 147 is that. Floyd would have to fight the fight of his life to beat shane. even then it would be a close decision.

135 version of shane stops floyd late....

Entertain me and tell me when Floyd hasn't fought the fight of his life. When has anyone criticized Floyd's strategy in a fight. After his fights no one says "Floyd should have stayed on the outside more" "Floyd should've stayed off the ropes".

With the exception of JLC 1, where Floyd was in the most trouble he has ever been in, when has he not performed 100%?

pbf has never had a fight where he NEEDED all of his skills throughout the fight....in castillo 1 that was more of floyd thinking that castillo was going to roll over and gie him his belt because floyd was the up and coming champ from 130....

I think you just answered your own question, Floyd Mayweather has never had too use all his skillset while being in 5 different weightclasses. Is incredible and if he is forced to use all his skillset against Shane Mosley. Then wouldn't the smart money be on the fighter, that in your opinion hasn't had to be at 100 percent to win in any fight ?

[Taeth]

Entertain me and tell me when Floyd hasn't fought the fight of his life. When has anyone criticized Floyd's strategy in a fight. After his fights no one says "Floyd should have stayed on the outside more" "Floyd should've stayed off the ropes".

With the exception of JLC 1, where Floyd was in the most trouble he has ever been in, when has he not performed 100%?

pbf has never had a fight where he NEEDED all of his skills throughout the fight....in castillo 1 that was more of floyd thinking that castillo was going to roll over and gie him his belt because floyd was the up and coming champ from 130....

I think you just answered your own question, Floyd Mayweather has never had too use all his skillset while being in 5 different weightclasses. Is incredible and if he is forced to use all his skillset against Shane Mosley. Then wouldn't the smart money be on the fighter, that in your opinion hasn't had to be at 100 percent to win in any fight ?

And that fighter is Floyd Mayweather. He has never been in trouble because he is so well schooled so gifted, he has the technical skills of Hopkins who had the ability to nullify guys like Pavlik and Calzaghe's offense so that they could land almost nothing effective. Mayweather has so many facets to his game, and that isn't even including his amazing physical gifts, he's one of the fastest guys in the sport, he probably has the fastest footmovement, and based on compubox he is by far the hardest fighter in the world to hit, and unarguably one of the best defensive fighters ever.

Mosley is a great fighter, but can you argue he's one of the best ever in boxing at anything besides athletic ability?

[JonesJrMayweather]

Entertain me and tell me when Floyd hasn't fought the fight of his life. When has anyone criticized Floyd's strategy in a fight. After his fights no one says "Floyd should have stayed on the outside more" "Floyd should've stayed off the ropes".

With the exception of JLC 1, where Floyd was in the most trouble he has ever been in, when has he not performed 100%?

pbf has never had a fight where he NEEDED all of his skills throughout the fight....in castillo 1 that was more of floyd thinking that castillo was going to roll over and gie him his belt because floyd was the up and coming champ from 130....

I think you just answered your own question, Floyd Mayweather has never had too use all his skillset while being in 5 different weightclasses. Is incredible and if he is forced to use all his skillset against Shane Mosley. Then wouldn't the smart money be on the fighter, that in your opinion hasn't had to be at 100 percent to win in any fight ?

that's my point...is that what will floyd do when he adapts then has to adapt again and again all while trying to maintain his defense...listen man don't get me wrong, i've said for a long time that PBF is the best since Roy Jones. I've also stated that if he leaves the sports without making fights with cotto and mosley there's no way he can be rated best of his generation. He retired to protect that record and it pisses me off.

I even stated that if they do fight i'd be pulling for floyd because i want to him retire undefeated, but only if he beats the top fighters from his era. He hasn't. There's is also no justification for fighting oscar over shane other than money. or baldomir, or judah, or hatton. Fights with cotto and shane should have happened already. even before they fought each other.

[ICB]

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

The "older" memebers of the forum will call you an IDIOT for that post.

Judah is a good fighter, and Floyd probably lost more than the first few rounds, got hit with a good shot and ALMOST got knocked down. To say dropped is simply fabricating what happened to attempt to prove your first, useless point of this thread. A sign of desperation.

Did you miss the part where Floyd destroyed Judah after that? Or did you just "watch the highlights"?

You say he doesn't have power at 140 and up. Someone posts that he KO'd Hatton, and then you call Hatton a smaller guy.. Remind me where Hatton normally fights? I'm PRETTY sure it's 140. So you're contradicting yourself a bit.

Go away.

Floyd wouldnt kayo hatton at 140....hatton is too high at 147...floyd hasn't fought anybody prime other than ricky since moving up from 135.

Career vs career shane has fought and beat better guys than PBF....hands down.

Mn i'll be glad when this does happen, and floyd will possibly lose. if he doesn't lose then it will be because he fought the greatest fight of his life. Shane will ask qustions of floyd that floyd has never had to answer...

Floyd has fought boxers (manfredy,), he's fought speed (judah), he's fought strong guys (baldomir) he's fought pressure (hatton) and he's fought boxers with power (oscar) but he has never fought a fighter that possessed all of those combined and shane at 147 is that. Floyd would have to fight the fight of his life to beat shane. even then it would be a close decision.

135 version of shane stops floyd late....

I wouldn't call Shane Mosley a pure boxer he's a boxer puncher, he doesn't have nowhere near the technical skills of Floyd Mayweather. I think your seriously fogetting Shane Mosley's flaws, which i pointed out to you on page 2.

You say Floyd Mayweather has never fought anyone like Shane Mosley, well remind me when has Shane Mosley ever fought a fighter like Floyd Mayweather ?

I also wouldn't say for 100 percent Shane Mosley has beaten better opposition overall. I'd say overall he has fought better opposition, but beaten is debatable.

They also say timing beats speed and i feel Floyd Mayweather, has much better timing and his countering skills are much better. He also has better technical skills, and he can adapt much better than Shane Mosley.

As for a mythical match up at 135 i still say Floyd Mayweather win's, he had alot of pop at that weight and he also had an excellent jab. Which is Shane Mosley's biggest weakness, and Floyd Mayweather would pop Shane Mosley with that jab all night.

It would be a terrific fight between them at any weightclass, but Floyd Mayweather IMO is too good of an all round fighter. And he has so many different gameplans that he can change while fighting its incredible.