So many so called PBF supporters have short memories

[Taeth]

When combining both the Hatton and ODLH fight together he made around 50 million dollars before taxes, take half that away its 25 million. I'm not sure he spent all that. He definitely could have, but people like that the IRS doesn't come after over night, he is still living the high life, and I do no doubt he is coming back, but its against the most challenging opponent out there.

Manny Pacquiao

A guy who pretty much matches Floyd in speed, is a southpaw(the only punch that really lands on Floyd is the left cross), he is an offensive whirlwind. And Manny is more dynamic than Mosley, he has the ability to land hard shots, to really punish even bigger men. When Mosley moved up his combinations dissapeared, all the boxing skill he showed at LW almost deteriorated because his boxing skill relies on him being the bigger man, and the fact that everyone at LW at the time were sitting ducks that Corrales, Castillo, Casamayor or Mayweather would have cleared out with no problem.

Manny is way higher up on the ATG list, he simply better than Mosley, and is the guy who matches up most equally with Floyd.

[JonesJrMayweather]

When combining both the Hatton and ODLH fight together he made around 50 million dollars before taxes, take half that away its 25 million. I'm not sure he spent all that. He definitely could have, but people like that the IRS doesn't come after over night, he is still living the high life, and I do no doubt he is coming back, but its against the most challenging opponent out there.

Manny Pacquiao

A guy who pretty much matches Floyd in speed, is a southpaw(the only punch that really lands on Floyd is the left cross), he is an offensive whirlwind. And Manny is more dynamic than Mosley, he has the ability to land hard shots, to really punish even bigger men. When Mosley moved up his combinations dissapeared, all the boxing skill he showed at LW almost deteriorated because his boxing skill relies on him being the bigger man, and the fact that everyone at LW at the time were sitting ducks that Corrales, Castillo, Casamayor or Mayweather would have cleared out with no problem.

Manny is way higher up on the ATG list, he simply better than Mosley, and is the guy who matches up most equally with Floyd.

manny is not higher than shane on the ATG list that's crack smoking...and manny doesn't pose more of a threat than shane...manny is not as schooled as shane. hell freddie roach said after Raheem beat morrales that they weren't putting manny anywhere near Raheem because he was too slick. Even manny's own manager says that floyd is too much for him in term of skill. Shane has been in the gym since he was 8. just as much skill as floyd but tougher and more of a fighter/boxer floyd is a boxer.

The bullshit reasoning for PBF fighting manny if it does happen will be because of money nothing else. Floyd will stop manny, who had one fight against Oscar at 147, now he's back at 140 with hatton. and after hatton beats him. He will go back to 135.

Floyd needs to fight shane. it makes no sense if he doesn't. And with Mosely being apart of golden boy all floyd has to say is "i want shane now"

and they'll be fighting. I've heard shane say i want to fight pbf. not once have i heard pbf say he wants to fight shane. I have heard ellerbe say they offered but that's just ellerbe a floyd "yes man"

[DaxxKahn]

Actually Daxx, TM is just making fair points here about JonesJrMayweather's claims that PBF is broke.

But no one knows that for sure...JonesJR at least is basing his opinion on reported news...TM acts as though he is PBF's accountant.....Talking about interest and all that other shit....

Arguing with an un needed amount of facts just for the sake of trying to look as though he is right

Your taking the piss arent you?

Yeah I apologized in the other thread to ya...

[Trainer Monkey]

But no one knows that for sure...JonesJR at least is basing his opinion on reported news...TM acts as though he is PBF's accountant.....Talking about interest and all that other shit....

Arguing with an un needed amount of facts just for the sake of trying to look as though he is right

Your taking the piss arent you?

Yeah I apologized in the other thread to ya...

Its all cool bro

[JonesJrMayweather]

What fighter that has fought PBF would you A.) consider accurate and B.) come close to being able to load up on a punch powerful enough to break his ribs?

I think you're exaggerating QUITE a bit. Floyd is accurate as HELL with ALL of his punches.

Shane has a hell of a chin, there is no question about that, but just like many of PBF's opponents, they don't realize how effective he is even though he is not a huge power puncher. If you're connecting flush on a lead right hand with all of your weight behind it, you will feel it. You say Floyd "sits and calculates his shots", as if while he's "sitting" he's hittable. No, Floyd is a PATIENT fighter who throws when he knows he has the highest chance to land a punch. You're implying that he sits lazily or something..

Floyd has fought harder punchers, and they haven't broke his defense nor landed flush often during a fight.. TOUGH, i will give you.. But too strong and too quick?! That just makes you sound like you haven't seen PBF fight.

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

The "older" memebers of the forum will call you an IDIOT for that post.

Judah is a good fighter, and Floyd probably lost more than the first few rounds, got hit with a good shot and ALMOST got knocked down. To say dropped is simply fabricating what happened to attempt to prove your first, useless point of this thread. A sign of desperation.

Did you miss the part where Floyd destroyed Judah after that? Or did you just "watch the highlights"?

You say he doesn't have power at 140 and up. Someone posts that he KO'd Hatton, and then you call Hatton a smaller guy.. Remind me where Hatton normally fights? I'm PRETTY sure it's 140. So you're contradicting yourself a bit.

Go away.

Floyd wouldnt kayo hatton at 140....hatton is too high at 147...floyd hasn't fought anybody prime other than ricky since moving up from 135.

Career vs career shane has fought and beat better guys than PBF....hands down.

Mn i'll be glad when this does happen, and floyd will possibly lose. if he doesn't lose then it will be because he fought the greatest fight of his life. Shane will ask qustions of floyd that floyd has never had to answer...

Floyd has fought boxers (manfredy,), he's fought speed (judah), he's fought strong guys (baldomir) he's fought pressure (hatton) and he's fought boxers with power (oscar) but he has never fought a fighter that possessed all of those combined and shane at 147 is that. Floyd would have to fight the fight of his life to beat shane. even then it would be a close decision.

135 version of shane stops floyd late....

[RP33]

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

The "older" memebers of the forum will call you an IDIOT for that post.

Judah is a good fighter, and Floyd probably lost more than the first few rounds, got hit with a good shot and ALMOST got knocked down. To say dropped is simply fabricating what happened to attempt to prove your first, useless point of this thread. A sign of desperation.

Did you miss the part where Floyd destroyed Judah after that? Or did you just "watch the highlights"?

You say he doesn't have power at 140 and up. Someone posts that he KO'd Hatton, and then you call Hatton a smaller guy.. Remind me where Hatton normally fights? I'm PRETTY sure it's 140. So you're contradicting yourself a bit.

Go away.

Floyd wouldnt kayo hatton at 140....hatton is too high at 147...floyd hasn't fought anybody prime other than ricky since moving up from 135.

Career vs career shane has fought and beat better guys than PBF....hands down.

Mn i'll be glad when this does happen, and floyd will possibly lose. if he doesn't lose then it will be because he fought the greatest fight of his life. Shane will ask qustions of floyd that floyd has never had to answer...

Floyd has fought boxers (manfredy,), he's fought speed (judah), he's fought strong guys (baldomir) he's fought pressure (hatton) and he's fought boxers with power (oscar) but he has never fought a fighter that possessed all of those combined and shane at 147 is that. Floyd would have to fight the fight of his life to beat shane. even then it would be a close decision.

135 version of shane stops floyd late....

Entertain me and tell me when Floyd hasn't fought the fight of his life. When has anyone criticized Floyd's strategy in a fight. After his fights no one says "Floyd should have stayed on the outside more" "Floyd should've stayed off the ropes".

With the exception of JLC 1, where Floyd was in the most trouble he has ever been in, when has he not performed 100%?

[JonesJrMayweather]

The "older" memebers of the forum will call you an IDIOT for that post.

Judah is a good fighter, and Floyd probably lost more than the first few rounds, got hit with a good shot and ALMOST got knocked down. To say dropped is simply fabricating what happened to attempt to prove your first, useless point of this thread. A sign of desperation.

Did you miss the part where Floyd destroyed Judah after that? Or did you just "watch the highlights"?

You say he doesn't have power at 140 and up. Someone posts that he KO'd Hatton, and then you call Hatton a smaller guy.. Remind me where Hatton normally fights? I'm PRETTY sure it's 140. So you're contradicting yourself a bit.

Go away.

Floyd wouldnt kayo hatton at 140....hatton is too high at 147...floyd hasn't fought anybody prime other than ricky since moving up from 135.

Career vs career shane has fought and beat better guys than PBF....hands down.

Mn i'll be glad when this does happen, and floyd will possibly lose. if he doesn't lose then it will be because he fought the greatest fight of his life. Shane will ask qustions of floyd that floyd has never had to answer...

Floyd has fought boxers (manfredy,), he's fought speed (judah), he's fought strong guys (baldomir) he's fought pressure (hatton) and he's fought boxers with power (oscar) but he has never fought a fighter that possessed all of those combined and shane at 147 is that. Floyd would have to fight the fight of his life to beat shane. even then it would be a close decision.

135 version of shane stops floyd late....

Entertain me and tell me when Floyd hasn't fought the fight of his life. When has anyone criticized Floyd's strategy in a fight. After his fights no one says "Floyd should have stayed on the outside more" "Floyd should've stayed off the ropes".

With the exception of JLC 1, where Floyd was in the most trouble he has ever been in, when has he not performed 100%?

pbf has never had a fight where he NEEDED all of his skills throughout the fight....in castillo 1 that was more of floyd thinking that castillo was going to roll over and gie him his belt because floyd was the up and coming champ from 130....

[ICB]

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

The "older" memebers of the forum will call you an IDIOT for that post.

Judah is a good fighter, and Floyd probably lost more than the first few rounds, got hit with a good shot and ALMOST got knocked down. To say dropped is simply fabricating what happened to attempt to prove your first, useless point of this thread. A sign of desperation.

Did you miss the part where Floyd destroyed Judah after that? Or did you just "watch the highlights"?

You say he doesn't have power at 140 and up. Someone posts that he KO'd Hatton, and then you call Hatton a smaller guy.. Remind me where Hatton normally fights? I'm PRETTY sure it's 140. So you're contradicting yourself a bit.

Go away.

Floyd wouldnt kayo hatton at 140....hatton is too high at 147...floyd hasn't fought anybody prime other than ricky since moving up from 135.

Career vs career shane has fought and beat better guys than PBF....hands down.

Mn i'll be glad when this does happen, and floyd will possibly lose. if he doesn't lose then it will be because he fought the greatest fight of his life. Shane will ask qustions of floyd that floyd has never had to answer...

Floyd has fought boxers (manfredy,), he's fought speed (judah), he's fought strong guys (baldomir) he's fought pressure (hatton) and he's fought boxers with power (oscar) but he has never fought a fighter that possessed all of those combined and shane at 147 is that. Floyd would have to fight the fight of his life to beat shane. even then it would be a close decision.

135 version of shane stops floyd late....

I wouldn't call Shane Mosley a pure boxer he's a boxer puncher, he doesn't have nowhere near the technical skills of Floyd Mayweather. I think your seriously fogetting Shane Mosley's flaws, which i pointed out to you on page 2.

You say Floyd Mayweather has never fought anyone like Shane Mosley, well remind me when has Shane Mosley ever fought a fighter like Floyd Mayweather ?

I also wouldn't say for 100 percent Shane Mosley has beaten better opposition overall. I'd say overall he has fought better opposition, but beaten is debatable.

They also say timing beats speed and i feel Floyd Mayweather, has much better timing and his countering skills are much better. He also has better technical skills, and he can adapt much better than Shane Mosley.

As for a mythical match up at 135 i still say Floyd Mayweather win's, he had alot of pop at that weight and he also had an excellent jab. Which is Shane Mosley's biggest weakness, and Floyd Mayweather would pop Shane Mosley with that jab all night.

It would be a terrific fight between them at any weightclass, but Floyd Mayweather IMO is too good of an all round fighter. And he has so many different gameplans that he can change while fighting its incredible.

[ICB]

Floyd wouldnt kayo hatton at 140....hatton is too high at 147...floyd hasn't fought anybody prime other than ricky since moving up from 135.

Career vs career shane has fought and beat better guys than PBF....hands down.

Mn i'll be glad when this does happen, and floyd will possibly lose. if he doesn't lose then it will be because he fought the greatest fight of his life. Shane will ask qustions of floyd that floyd has never had to answer...

Floyd has fought boxers (manfredy,), he's fought speed (judah), he's fought strong guys (baldomir) he's fought pressure (hatton) and he's fought boxers with power (oscar) but he has never fought a fighter that possessed all of those combined and shane at 147 is that. Floyd would have to fight the fight of his life to beat shane. even then it would be a close decision.

135 version of shane stops floyd late....

Entertain me and tell me when Floyd hasn't fought the fight of his life. When has anyone criticized Floyd's strategy in a fight. After his fights no one says "Floyd should have stayed on the outside more" "Floyd should've stayed off the ropes".

With the exception of JLC 1, where Floyd was in the most trouble he has ever been in, when has he not performed 100%?

pbf has never had a fight where he NEEDED all of his skills throughout the fight....in castillo 1 that was more of floyd thinking that castillo was going to roll over and gie him his belt because floyd was the up and coming champ from 130....

I think you just answered your own question, Floyd Mayweather has never had too use all his skillset while being in 5 different weightclasses. Is incredible and if he is forced to use all his skillset against Shane Mosley. Then wouldn't the smart money be on the fighter, that in your opinion hasn't had to be at 100 percent to win in any fight ?

[Taeth]

When combining both the Hatton and ODLH fight together he made around 50 million dollars before taxes, take half that away its 25 million. I'm not sure he spent all that. He definitely could have, but people like that the IRS doesn't come after over night, he is still living the high life, and I do no doubt he is coming back, but its against the most challenging opponent out there.

Manny Pacquiao

A guy who pretty much matches Floyd in speed, is a southpaw(the only punch that really lands on Floyd is the left cross), he is an offensive whirlwind. And Manny is more dynamic than Mosley, he has the ability to land hard shots, to really punish even bigger men. When Mosley moved up his combinations dissapeared, all the boxing skill he showed at LW almost deteriorated because his boxing skill relies on him being the bigger man, and the fact that everyone at LW at the time were sitting ducks that Corrales, Castillo, Casamayor or Mayweather would have cleared out with no problem.

Manny is way higher up on the ATG list, he simply better than Mosley, and is the guy who matches up most equally with Floyd.

manny is not higher than shane on the ATG list that's crack smoking...and manny doesn't pose more of a threat than shane...manny is not as schooled as shane. hell freddie roach said after Raheem beat morrales that they weren't putting manny anywhere near Raheem because he was too slick. Even manny's own manager says that floyd is too much for him in term of skill. Shane has been in the gym since he was 8. just as much skill as floyd but tougher and more of a fighter/boxer floyd is a boxer.

The bullshit reasoning for PBF fighting manny if it does happen will be because of money nothing else. Floyd will stop manny, who had one fight against Oscar at 147, now he's back at 140 with hatton. and after hatton beats him. He will go back to 135.

Floyd needs to fight shane. it makes no sense if he doesn't. And with Mosely being apart of golden boy all floyd has to say is "i want shane now"

and they'll be fighting. I've heard shane say i want to fight pbf. not once have i heard pbf say he wants to fight shane. I have heard ellerbe say they offered but that's just ellerbe a floyd "yes man"

Find me where Freddie said that Raheem was too slick for Manny? Show me that. Your are so full of shit. Stop with this alleged hear say BS. You have no clue what you are talking about

Who are Mosley's big wins? 1 fight with Oscar he won clearly, the other fight most people felt Oscar won. Vargas way after his prime after Wright, Trinidad, and ODLH all had their way with him many years earlier. Mayorga who both Trinidad and OScar beat in a more devastating and quicker fashion, and now Margarito who was vastly overrated to begin with.

Mosley is agreat fighter, but he is no Pacquiao, he's not as quick, he doesn't move as well, he can't punch at any moment, he doesn't throw combinations as well, and he's just as easy to hit.

[Taeth]

Entertain me and tell me when Floyd hasn't fought the fight of his life. When has anyone criticized Floyd's strategy in a fight. After his fights no one says "Floyd should have stayed on the outside more" "Floyd should've stayed off the ropes".

With the exception of JLC 1, where Floyd was in the most trouble he has ever been in, when has he not performed 100%?

pbf has never had a fight where he NEEDED all of his skills throughout the fight....in castillo 1 that was more of floyd thinking that castillo was going to roll over and gie him his belt because floyd was the up and coming champ from 130....

I think you just answered your own question, Floyd Mayweather has never had too use all his skillset while being in 5 different weightclasses. Is incredible and if he is forced to use all his skillset against Shane Mosley. Then wouldn't the smart money be on the fighter, that in your opinion hasn't had to be at 100 percent to win in any fight ?

And that fighter is Floyd Mayweather. He has never been in trouble because he is so well schooled so gifted, he has the technical skills of Hopkins who had the ability to nullify guys like Pavlik and Calzaghe's offense so that they could land almost nothing effective. Mayweather has so many facets to his game, and that isn't even including his amazing physical gifts, he's one of the fastest guys in the sport, he probably has the fastest footmovement, and based on compubox he is by far the hardest fighter in the world to hit, and unarguably one of the best defensive fighters ever.

Mosley is a great fighter, but can you argue he's one of the best ever in boxing at anything besides athletic ability?

[JonesJrMayweather]

Entertain me and tell me when Floyd hasn't fought the fight of his life. When has anyone criticized Floyd's strategy in a fight. After his fights no one says "Floyd should have stayed on the outside more" "Floyd should've stayed off the ropes".

With the exception of JLC 1, where Floyd was in the most trouble he has ever been in, when has he not performed 100%?

pbf has never had a fight where he NEEDED all of his skills throughout the fight....in castillo 1 that was more of floyd thinking that castillo was going to roll over and gie him his belt because floyd was the up and coming champ from 130....

I think you just answered your own question, Floyd Mayweather has never had too use all his skillset while being in 5 different weightclasses. Is incredible and if he is forced to use all his skillset against Shane Mosley. Then wouldn't the smart money be on the fighter, that in your opinion hasn't had to be at 100 percent to win in any fight ?

that's my point...is that what will floyd do when he adapts then has to adapt again and again all while trying to maintain his defense...listen man don't get me wrong, i've said for a long time that PBF is the best since Roy Jones. I've also stated that if he leaves the sports without making fights with cotto and mosley there's no way he can be rated best of his generation. He retired to protect that record and it pisses me off.

I even stated that if they do fight i'd be pulling for floyd because i want to him retire undefeated, but only if he beats the top fighters from his era. He hasn't. There's is also no justification for fighting oscar over shane other than money. or baldomir, or judah, or hatton. Fights with cotto and shane should have happened already. even before they fought each other.

[JonesJrMayweather]

i think between JT rock, ICB, TM and myself among others that this guy has handily gotten rocked in this thread.

it's just funny how he speaks of the "old members" vouching for him, when it's the old members calling him an idiot.

See: delusional

When i said vouch for me i meant in the fact that I ve been saying since joining this forum that shane has the best chance to beat floyd and that any other fighter between 140 147 pbf would beat easily. shane is the only one that give him a serious test.

And most of the old members also thought that hatton would beat floyd...when i said floyd would easily beat him even before they fought. then before the fight came on here and picked floyd in 10....the same way most of the old members were screaming about margarito when i called him a bum that hadn't proven anything..then pick williams to beat him. and said that floyd would make him look like corrales.

And i'm only stating this about shane again, because just four years ago, when i said shane is the only that beat him (pbf) it still stands. evidenced by shane nearly beating cotto, and destroying who for a long time was this forums "he'll beat floyd guy" margarito. Guranteed if floyd signs to fight shane it will be one of the best fights in history and shane could very well kayo floyd or stop him late. And say this too since people get sensitive about these guys like they're being paid by them to be yes men...

Just because I say "SHANE HAS THE BEST SHOT, AND CAN POSSIBLY BEAT FLOYD, DOESN"T MEAN FLOYD CAN"T BEAT HIM",

i'm simply stating that in terms of mental ability, skills, and power. shane will be the best floyd has ever faced and vice versa. But i still would bet on shane....but would'nt be disappointed if either of them lost. can the PBF nut huggers say the same? I doubt it....

[RP33]

i think between JT rock, ICB, TM and myself among others that this guy has handily gotten rocked in this thread.

it's just funny how he speaks of the "old members" vouching for him, when it's the old members calling him an idiot.

See: delusional

When i said vouch for me i meant in the fact that I ve been saying since joining this forum that shane has the best chance to beat floyd and that any other fighter between 140 147 pbf would beat easily. shane is the only one that give him a serious test.

And most of the old members also thought that hatton would beat floyd...when i said floyd would easily beat him even before they fought. then before the fight came on here and picked floyd in 10....the same way most of the old members were screaming about margarito when i called him a bum that hadn't proven anything..then pick williams to beat him. and said that floyd would make him look like corrales.

And i'm only stating this about shane again, because just four years ago, when i said shane is the only that beat him (pbf) it still stands. evidenced by shane nearly beating cotto, and destroying who for a long time was this forums "he'll beat floyd guy" margarito. Guranteed if floyd signs to fight shane it will be one of the best fights in history and shane could very well kayo floyd or stop him late. And say this too since people get sensitive about these guys like they're being paid by them to be yes men...

Just because I say "SHANE HAS THE BEST SHOT, AND CAN POSSIBLY BEAT FLOYD, DOESN"T MEAN FLOYD CAN"T BEAT HIM",

i'm simply stating that in terms of mental ability, skills, and power. shane will be the best floyd has ever faced and vice versa. But i still would bet on shane....but would'nt be disappointed if either of them lost. can the PBF nut huggers say the same? I doubt it....

I don't think you realize exactly how stupid you're acting. So you speculated something 4 years ago, to this day Floyd and SSM have not fought. If he beat him, then go back and show us the post, it's useless right now. You have not accomplished anything you fool. What are you so proud of?

You're purely speculating saying that Shane has the best chance. This is your opinion, and you're failing at providing evidence making these ridiculous posts.

You're delusional. I'm not saying that Shane doesn't have a chance, i'm just saying that your method of trying to convince someone that he will win for the reasons you gave are just absolutely so out there.

In your mind you consider Floyd fans nut-huggers because you're so used to being one. I'm simply a fan of Floyd's skills and don't see anyone out there who can beat him.. simply because of his dominance over his opponents and his ability to adapt. Am i open to a debate over someone pleading their case for shane? Absolutely. But not your stupid posts about Shane breaking his ribs cause he's so strong and fast and god-like. idiot.

[JonesJrMayweather]

i think between JT rock, ICB, TM and myself among others that this guy has handily gotten rocked in this thread.

it's just funny how he speaks of the "old members" vouching for him, when it's the old members calling him an idiot.

See: delusional

When i said vouch for me i meant in the fact that I ve been saying since joining this forum that shane has the best chance to beat floyd and that any other fighter between 140 147 pbf would beat easily. shane is the only one that give him a serious test.

And most of the old members also thought that hatton would beat floyd...when i said floyd would easily beat him even before they fought. then before the fight came on here and picked floyd in 10....the same way most of the old members were screaming about margarito when i called him a bum that hadn't proven anything..then pick williams to beat him. and said that floyd would make him look like corrales.

And i'm only stating this about shane again, because just four years ago, when i said shane is the only that beat him (pbf) it still stands. evidenced by shane nearly beating cotto, and destroying who for a long time was this forums "he'll beat floyd guy" margarito. Guranteed if floyd signs to fight shane it will be one of the best fights in history and shane could very well kayo floyd or stop him late. And say this too since people get sensitive about these guys like they're being paid by them to be yes men...

Just because I say "SHANE HAS THE BEST SHOT, AND CAN POSSIBLY BEAT FLOYD, DOESN"T MEAN FLOYD CAN"T BEAT HIM",

i'm simply stating that in terms of mental ability, skills, and power. shane will be the best floyd has ever faced and vice versa. But i still would bet on shane....but would'nt be disappointed if either of them lost. can the PBF nut huggers say the same? I doubt it....

I don't think you realize exactly how stupid you're acting. So you speculated something 4 years ago, to this day Floyd and SSM have not fought. If he beat him, then go back and show us the post, it's useless right now. You have not accomplished anything you fool. What are you so proud of?

You're purely speculating saying that Shane has the best chance. This is your opinion, and you're failing at providing evidence making these ridiculous posts.

You're delusional. I'm not saying that Shane doesn't have a chance, i'm just saying that your method of trying to convince someone that he will win for the reasons you gave are just absolutely so out there.

In your mind you consider Floyd fans nut-huggers because you're so used to being one. I'm simply a fan of Floyd's skills and don't see anyone out there who can beat him.. simply because of his dominance over his opponents and his ability to adapt. Am i open to a debate over someone pleading their case for shane? Absolutely. But not your stupid posts about Shane breaking his ribs cause he's so strong and fast and god-like. idiot.

you obviously can't understand english...

If I say "floyd uses the philly shell standing infront of mosely, mosley will break his ribs because of the numerous well placed body shots he will absorb" that giving a reason why shane has a good shot.

If I say "floyd has never fought a fighter with overall package of shane and floyd will have to fight his best fight, meaning everything he's shown and then some" That's another reason why shane poses the biggest threat.

If i say "floyd will more than likely wear the soft gloves to protect his hands so his punches won't have as much affect on shane who already is a fighter that has been hit by guys that hit much harder than floyd" Another reason why shane has the best shot.

If I say "now that shane has re-invented his jab, and has a longer reach than floyd" another reason why he could beat floyd.

It seems that youre the one who thinks floyd is god-like, and he is not light years ahead of his era...true dominant p4p fighters like sweet pea, chavez, RJJ, and shane..all dominated with skill and power. These are facts. Floyd hasn't looked like a complete fighter since he beat corralles. the rest was just him realizing that he doesn't have to move because the guys he faced arent that quick, and in the case of judah where he was quick wasn't that smart.

And if i have to point out to you that when i said shane would break his ribs you took that to mean "shane has dragon ball strength" then you obviously think of fights in terms of one round. Over 12 or even 6 where floyd likes to sit in the pocket during the second half of the fight. Shane would beat the hell out of his body. result...broken ribs.