Biggest Hype Job

[leftylee]

Kelly Pavlik is one. Even though he made it to a world champion. He is pretty one dimensional and overhyped and got took to school by a 43 yr old who he was expected to KO with ease.

People were so far ahead of talking about him for the future, reigning the division for years etc... they forgot about what was standing in front, Bernard Hopkins.

[El Kabong]

I wouldn't call Pavlik a hype job...I'm talking about fighters who were basically handed wins and whenever they fought anyone anywhere near good kind of like Primo Carnera

[CGM]

Kelly Pavlik is one. Even though he made it to a world champion. He is pretty one dimensional and overhyped and got took to school by a 43 yr old who he was expected to KO with ease.

People were so far ahead of talking about him for the future, reigning the division for years etc... they forgot about what was standing in front, Bernard Hopkins.

Tough call on this one. I see your point, he doesn't exactly impress the hell out of me either, but he did beat some pretty good fighters. edit: basically what Lyle said

[Spicoli]

Gamboa .....I can not deny Oscars accomplishments but from day one as a professional I labeled him DeLaHypa.It really was NON STOP.

David Reid

[Violent Demise]

Gamboa .....I can not deny Oscars accomplishments but from day one as a professional I labeled him DeLaHypa.It really was NON STOP.

David Reid

You out of your mind. I expected better from you. Reid was an over achiever in the sport of Boxing. Not to many people can become World Champs fighting with basically one eye.

You on the Saddo's top 10 posters pound for pound list. But p4p or not take your neg rep.

[Spicoli]

Gamboa .....I can not deny Oscars accomplishments but from day one as a professional I labeled him DeLaHypa.It really was NON STOP.

David Reid

You out of your mind. I expected better from you. Reid was an over achiever in the sport of Boxing. Not to many people can become World Champs fighting with basically one eye.

You on the Saddo's top 10 posters pound for pound list. But p4p or not take your neg rep.

HAHA...wut a Dikk.What goes around comes around potna but Im going to rise above this night

Reid skilled no doubt,slick fawka.But He rode that lone olympian hype all over the networks and burned quick.Just never did it for me,Loved his smashing on usually tough Rupa,what he did to Waaaay past it Brown is what I hold against him.You KNOW that was a mirage.It got ugly at the end with him,getting knocked around by so-so types.

[Violent Demise]

Gamboa .....I can not deny Oscars accomplishments but from day one as a professional I labeled him DeLaHypa.It really was NON STOP.

David Reid

You out of your mind. I expected better from you. Reid was an over achiever in the sport of Boxing. Not to many people can become World Champs fighting with basically one eye.

You on the Saddo's top 10 posters pound for pound list. But p4p or not take your neg rep.

HAHA...wut a Dikk.What goes around comes around potna but Im going to rise above this night

Reid skilled no doubt,slick fawka.But He rode that lone olympian hype all over the networks and burned quick.Just never did it for me,Loved his smashing on usually tough Rupa,what he did to Waaaay past it Brown is what I hold against him.You KNOW that was a mirage.It got ugly at the end with him,getting knocked around by so-so types.

Reid had fantastic skills. And a great right hand. But that eye was a liability. He was basically a one eyed fighter. For him to become a champion and beat some good fighters along the way, to me is highly impressive.

A bunch of idiots like to blame Reid's handlers for rushing him in against Felix Trinidad. They think they did a poor job of handling him. But them idiots don't know shiit about Boxing. I think they did of great job of handling him. Reid was already struggling with fighters he had no business struggling with in sparring. Him losing to a lesser fighter in the ring would not be a surprise. So they took advantage of his undefeated record and title and cashed him out against Felix Trinidad. He took a beating in the fight. But he accounted himself quite well and earned a career high pay day of 2.5 million I belive. If Reid would of lost prior to facing Trinidad there was no way he would earn that much money. It was the right move.

[Chris Nagel]

Sons of great fighters often get over-hyped. Camacho Jr. is one that springs to mind.

[ICB]

You out of your mind. I expected better from you. Reid was an over achiever in the sport of Boxing. Not to many people can become World Champs fighting with basically one eye.

You on the Saddo's top 10 posters pound for pound list. But p4p or not take your neg rep.

HAHA...wut a Dikk.What goes around comes around potna but Im going to rise above this night

Reid skilled no doubt,slick fawka.But He rode that lone olympian hype all over the networks and burned quick.Just never did it for me,Loved his smashing on usually tough Rupa,what he did to Waaaay past it Brown is what I hold against him.You KNOW that was a mirage.It got ugly at the end with him,getting knocked around by so-so types.

Reid had fantastic skills. And a great right hand. But that eye was a liability. He was basically a one eyed fighter. For him to become a champion and beat some good fighters along the way, to me is highly impressive.

A bunch of idiots like to blame Reid's handlers for rushing him in against Felix Trinidad. They think they did a poor job of handling him. But them idiots don't know shiit about Boxing. I think they did of great job of handling him. Reid was already struggling with fighters he had no business struggling with in sparring. Him losing to a lesser fighter in the ring would not be a surprise. So they took advantage of his undefeated record and title and cashed him out against Felix Trinidad. He took a beating in the fight. But he accounted himself quite well and earned a career high pay day of 2.5 million I belive. If Reid would of lost prior to facing Trinidad there was no way he would earn that much money. It was the right move.

I agree i don't think David Reid was a hype job either he was a good fighter, with good handspeed/slickness ETC. I have watched a few of his fights and he did struggle against people like Kevin Kelly who is only decent.

But then he did comeback and beat Keith Mullings who despite the record, wern't a bad fighter himself he had a win over Terry Norris. Granted it wasn't a prime Terry Norris but i see that fight, and Terry Norris still performed well in that fight.

And he was ahead but he got hurt and floored in round 8, and never recovered in the next round. Keith Mullings actually was only beat convincingly by Winky Wright, Steve Roberts, that was shocking to see Keith Mullings stopped so early against Steve Roberts.

But anyway i thought David Reid was doing pretty good after 6 rounds against Felix Trinidad, i thought he was possibly ahead by 1 round. And he scored a decent knockdown, but after that it all went downhill and he got battered.

But he still showed heart especially in the later rounds when he fought back, overall i think it was a hell of an achievement to win rounds and go 12 rounds against a prime Felix Trinidad. And even if he wouldn't of fought him the eye would always be a problem, and he wouldn't of had a long career anyway.

Didn't he get the eye injury in the Olympics or something ? i remember hearing about that somewhere but i can't remember. By the way what is David Reid doing now anyway ?

[Spicoli]

You out of your mind. I expected better from you. Reid was an over achiever in the sport of Boxing. Not to many people can become World Champs fighting with basically one eye.

You on the Saddo's top 10 posters pound for pound list. But p4p or not take your neg rep.

HAHA...wut a Dikk.What goes around comes around potna but Im going to rise above this night

Reid skilled no doubt,slick fawka.But He rode that lone olympian hype all over the networks and burned quick.Just never did it for me,Loved his smashing on usually tough Rupa,what he did to Waaaay past it Brown is what I hold against him.You KNOW that was a mirage.It got ugly at the end with him,getting knocked around by so-so types.

Reid had fantastic skills. And a great right hand. But that eye was a liability. He was basically a one eyed fighter. For him to become a champion and beat some good fighters along the way, to me is highly impressive.

A bunch of idiots like to blame Reid's handlers for rushing him in against Felix Trinidad. They think they did a poor job of handling him. But them idiots don't know shiit about Boxing. I think they did of great job of handling him. Reid was already struggling with fighters he had no business struggling with in sparring. Him losing to a lesser fighter in the ring would not be a surprise. So they took advantage of his undefeated record and title and cashed him out against Felix Trinidad. He took a beating in the fight. But he accounted himself quite well and earned a career high pay day of 2.5 million I belive. If Reid would of lost prior to facing Trinidad there was no way he would earn that much money. It was the right move.

Clearly you can not deny his skills.No boubt about it.But I think you sumed it up perfectly right there.Thats my point,he was riding with skills yes...but had emmence backing/buildup...and yes Hype stemming from the gold at the Olympics.I mean,who doesn't.The networks could not get to him fast enough and he was in the limelight from dayone.Clearly he was talented but could not totally meet the level of expections that his handlers and Media set for him.He was all balls in with Tito,fought like a champion...but he was done after that.

[Hulk]

Hector Camacho Jr. and Francisco Bojado come to mind.

Both got spanked courtesy of Jesse James Leija.

[CutMeMick]

Michael Grant
"Panchito" Bojado
Joel Julio

[The Fightfan]

I don't think Gerry Cooney would be close. It seems everyone including HBO name him as the biggest hype job. Jimmy Young beat George Foreman two years before Cooney whooped his ass. Ron Lyle gave everyone problems including the "GREAT" Ali, Cooney took him out in 1 round, Norton was old but sure as hell didn't look it, took him out in 54 seconds. Look at his amatuer background one of the top amatuer fighter's took out the undefeated Cuban. I get sick of this shit on Cooney he went 55-3 in the amatuers and was beaten by the alltime greatest fighter's of all time. Do I need to name them ? Holmes,Foreman,Spinks. Nothing to be ashamed of at all in my book. Gave Holmes a helluva a tough time for the heavyweight crown. If weren't for Holmes saying " if Cooney wasn't white he wouldn't be worth a shit" every 5 mins I think we would look at him a little differently. He did what he had to do and did it by knocking the top ranked oppents out not by desicion.

Who I think is the biggest hype job ever is Tyson pure and simple. He was amazing when he was young but since his return after his imprisonment was even bigger than he originally was and did nothing great whatsoever.

[El Kabong]

OK let's forget Cooney....what about Joe Mesi? That guy had 0 losses and he was still a hype job, hell Nicolay Valuev is a hype job and he barely lost that 1 time!

Gerry Cooney IS a victim of greedy people pushing him forward before he was ready AND as a consequence of being exposed by larry Holmes (a great fighter) his entire career was damaged. Not because he wasn't talented but because mentally and psychologically he was no longer at the top level, he never recovered from his first loss.

[CGM]

I don't think Gerry Cooney would be close. It seems everyone including HBO name him as the biggest hype job. Jimmy Young beat George Foreman two years before Cooney whooped his ass. Ron Lyle gave everyone problems including the "GREAT" Ali, Cooney took him out in 1 round, Norton was old but sure as hell didn't look it, took him out in 54 seconds. Look at his amatuer background one of the top amatuer fighter's took out the undefeated Cuban. I get sick of this shit on Cooney he went 55-3 in the amatuers and was beaten by the alltime greatest fighter's of all time. Do I need to name them ? Holmes,Foreman,Spinks. Nothing to be ashamed of at all in my book. Gave Holmes a helluva a tough time for the heavyweight crown. If weren't for Holmes saying " if Cooney wasn't white he wouldn't be worth a shit" every 5 mins I think we would look at him a little differently. He did what he had to do and did it by knocking the top ranked oppents out not by desicion.

Who I think is the biggest hype job ever is Tyson pure and simple. He was amazing when he was young but since his return after his imprisonment was even bigger than he originally was and did nothing great whatsoever.

Holmes- Cooney was 26 years ago. Do you even remember they hype they gave this guy?