Margarito caught cheating?

[El Kabong]

Look at the number of punches.

when Cotto gets hit he doesn't usually get horribly beaten up....maybe some bleeding here and there but nothing like what we saw vs Margarito and Cotto has good defense too and as Kel said he really only took 2 rounds of punishment!!!!


Margarito is a lying cheater unless he provides a better explination....if I was Nazim Richardson I would have saved those peices of plaster to give to the athletic commission after the fight.

I gave Margarito full credit for beatign Cotto and now to see that he's a cheat...it sickens me, he could have ruined one of my favorite fighters!!!!

[El Kabong]

How would Plaster of Paris on his wraps make it so that he was able to take everything Cotto could dish out?

OK so you hit me with regulation wraps and I hit you with horseshoes in my gloves and we'll see how long you stand infront of me....his power from illegal handwraps made Cotto change his gameplan and move around constantly AND therefore took away Cotto's power and also Cotto took the majority of punches for what 2-3 rounds?!?! And he looked like he had been pummled with a sledgehammer!!!

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

He would have done the same thing to mosley if he could have hit him more often. Mosley moved well and was very accurate with hard punches, so toney couldn't get many punches off.

[SigmaMu]

Naazim Calls Doctored Gloves "Deliberate"

The California State Athletic commission is investigating two hard blocks of gauze that were found in Antonio Margarito's gloves before Saturday's WBA welterweight championship at the Staples Center.

By GEORGE WILLIS

The trainer for Shane Mosley on Monday said two blocks of a plaster-like substance discovered in Antonio Margarito's gloves before their welterweight championship fight Saturday night at the Staples Center was a "deliberate" act that deserves a thorough investigation.

"It was deliberate, but on whose part? I don't know," said Naazim Richardson, who worked Mosley's corner and was the one who discovered two blocks of hardened gauze wrapped around the knuckles of Margarito's fists. "For all I know the corner could have been wrapping it that way for all of his fights, and Margarito could have been just as surprised as anybody that it was wrong."

The California State Athletic Commission confirmed on Monday it has sent "two samples" to its offices in Sacramento to be examined. "We are investigating, but I'm not authorized to say any more," said Dean Lohuis, chief inspector of the CSAC, who worked the fight won by Mosley on a ninth-round technical knockout.

Here's what happened. The controversy began when Richardson was in Margarito's dressing room to witness the wrapping of his hands. One hand already had been wrapped and approved by the CSAC before Richardson's arrival.

In the process of wrapping the other hand, Richardson questioned the amount of tape going directly on Margarito's skin, and asked for a rewrapping. During the rewrapping, it got to a point where a cushion was placed across Margarito's knuckles. But when Richardson asked if he could "feel" the cushion that's when the Margarito camp began to protest.

Margarito's co-manager Francisco Espinoza was the most defiant telling Richardson, "I expected this from you," to which Richardson said: "You should expect me to do my job."

Over protests from the Margarito camp, Richardson was allowed to feel the cushion. "It was brick hard," said Richardson, who told the Lohuis to feel it himself. Once Lohuis felt the cushion he ordered that it be "opened up," Richardson said.

"When he opened it up, a little square block of old wet gauze packed real tight came out," Richardson said. "It was like it had plaster on it. I think it had an old dried up blood stain on it."

Richardson asked Margarito's previously wrapped hand be inspected as well, and another hard block of gauze was found in that wrapping. According to witnesses, a doctor for the Mosley camp inspected the two blocks of hardened gauze and said, "This is what we use in the hospital to make casts."

Both samples were given to Mosley's lawyer Judd Burstein, who said they felt like "plaster of Paris." He then gave them to Lohuis with the assurance they would be secured it such a way they wouldn't be tampered with. "It looked to me like the kind of thing that if the fight went on when (Margarito's) hands got sweaty and it would harden so it would feel like a cast," Burstein said.

Richardson said the blocks of hardened gauze had been packed and treated in such as way that it could make Margarito's punches feel like bricks especially in later rounds. "As you fight the natural cushion in the gloves wear down," Richardson said, "so by the later rounds you're basically getting hit with that plaster in there. That kind of stuff is ridiculous."

Margarito and his handlers face possible suspensions and fines if they are found to have deliberately broken rules. Margarito's co-manager Sergio Diaz was not in his office on Monday and he didn't return a message left by the Post. A spokesman for Top Rank Inc., Margarito's promoter, said the issue is between the trainer, Javier Capetillo, and the CSAC. "We'll see what happens," the spokesman said.

Margarito's hands were wrapped a third time and approved for the fight, which Mosley dominated en route to the surprising victory. Margarito was coming off a career-defining win over Miguel Cotto last July were Margarito's thunderous punches battered Cotto into an 11th round TKO. Don't expect the Margarito camp to confess how the fighter's hands were wrapped for that bout.

"I can only imagine what Cotto is thinking now," Burstein said. "I've never seen somebody not working out sweating as badly as the guy who was wrapping Margarito's hands when this was going on. It was like they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar."

Richardson has served as a long-time trainer to Bernard Hopkins and raised a similar issue before Hopkins' fight with Tito Trinidad 2001 at the Garden. Richardson objected when Felix Trinidad Sr. was wrapping Tito's hands with layers of gauze, then layers of tape, then more gauze and tape, etc., which was against rules of the New York State Athletic Commission.

"I've been through this before," Richardson said. "I don't want to tarnish nobody's image. Margarito might not have known what was going on because he wasn't really objecting to being rewrapped. But somebody did it."

Richardson isn't sure how the fight would have been affected had the blocks of hardened gauze not been discovered. "I don't think anybody would have beaten Shane Mosley that night," he said. "But with that plaster in there, it might have made it a little rougher."

[Trainer Monkey]

Ok now I see how they might have been slipping it through,you put together wrap pads in advance,it goes in to your wraps,but you usually want them pre-done because your running on the clock,and theyre pretty easy to screw up if you let your mind wander,so youve allready got them pre-done in your wrap kit if your working a corner. They really dont get checked much,because if they get prodded and poked too much,the whole thing falls apart. It being in the wrap cushions makes sense, that would be just about the best place to stash it. The gloves are supplied by the promoter, most of the wrap is done in public,but the wrap pads are usually done in advance of the fight,and are just sitting in the cornermans kit.
To explain a wrapped cushion of guaze is put right over a fighters knuckles,basically an extended oval of gauze,it looks like a gauze pickle. Those are usually pre-made in advance,so you can just tape them down real quick. But if you poke and prod the hell out of them,they start to unravel.

[Trainer Monkey]

Though if this is where they case,(still not proven),that was an INCREDIBLY stupid thing for Margarito's team to do,the benefits of anything short of a lead weight would have been negligible at best,the pads just arent big enough. But it is HIGHLY illegal, and now theyre all in serious dutch because of it

[JT Rock]

Look at the number of punches.

when Cotto gets hit he doesn't usually get horribly beaten up....maybe some bleeding here and there but nothing like what we saw vs Margarito and Cotto has good defense too and as Kel said he really only took 2 rounds of punishment!!!!


Margarito is a lying cheater unless he provides a better explination....if I was Nazim Richardson I would have saved those peices of plaster to give to the athletic commission after the fight.

I gave Margarito full credit for beatign Cotto and now to see that he's a cheat...it sickens me, he could have ruined one of my favorite fighters!!!!

Cotto routinely bleeds through his mouth like a stuck pig

[Chino]

Article reveals plaster in both of Tony's gloves
Margarito trying to plaster Mosley? | The Fabulous Forum | Los Angeles Times

Phuk you Tony, I hope you get fined a few MILLION dollars for this.

Antonio Margarito cleared of wrongdoing in Miguel Cotto fight - SI.com - Boxing

Hey Danny,
If you want you can copy and paste the link to all the other bunch of threads you made about this issue.

[Moono]

Article reveals plaster in both of Tony's gloves
Margarito trying to plaster Mosley? | The Fabulous Forum | Los Angeles Times

Phuk you Tony, I hope you get fined a few MILLION dollars for this.

Antonio Margarito cleared of wrongdoing in Miguel Cotto fight - SI.com - Boxing

Hey Danny,
If you want you can copy and paste the link to all the other bunch of threads you made about this issue.

chino neg that coward! everyone is ganging up on us mexicans man.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Article reveals plaster in both of Tony's gloves
Margarito trying to plaster Mosley? | The Fabulous Forum | Los Angeles Times

Phuk you Tony, I hope you get fined a few MILLION dollars for this.

Antonio Margarito cleared of wrongdoing in Miguel Cotto fight - SI.com - Boxing

Hey Danny,
If you want you can copy and paste the link to all the other bunch of threads you made about this issue.

chino neg that coward! everyone is ganging up on us mexicans man.

dude just shut the hell up, this has nothing to do with race, i'd say that your attacks against Pacquiao is more about race than anything

[Kel]

Article reveals plaster in both of Tony's gloves
Margarito trying to plaster Mosley? | The Fabulous Forum | Los Angeles Times

Phuk you Tony, I hope you get fined a few MILLION dollars for this.

Antonio Margarito cleared of wrongdoing in Miguel Cotto fight - SI.com - Boxing

Hey Danny,
If you want you can copy and paste the link to all the other bunch of threads you made about this issue.

chino neg that coward! everyone is ganging up on us mexicans man.

Do you honestly have such a poorly functioning brain? If Shane was accused of the same thing people would be expressing their shock and disappointment just the same. Mexican fighters are among the most respected out there so I think your talking, well...........shit, again.

I gotta say, most of your posts don't actually mean anything, nor do they contribute to the thread you post in. Your entertaining and annoying at the same time. Actually thats fitting, I laugh at your posts and then call you a cock head.

[DNUTS]

give the man his day in COURT .people are quick to JUDGE.

[Moono]

Antonio Margarito cleared of wrongdoing in Miguel Cotto fight - SI.com - Boxing

Hey Danny,
If you want you can copy and paste the link to all the other bunch of threads you made about this issue.

chino neg that coward! everyone is ganging up on us mexicans man.

Do you honestly have such a poorly functioning brain? If Shane was accused of the same thing people would be expressing their shock and disappointment just the same. Mexican fighters are among the most respected out there so I think your talking, well...........shit, again.

I gotta say, most of your posts don't actually mean anything, nor do they contribute to the thread you post in. Your entertaining and annoying at the same time. Actually thats fitting, I laugh at your posts and then call you a cock head.

you are from Australia
it is different in the states

[Boom Boom]

What is with all the hatred on this site lately. Some people on here cant differenciate facts from opinions or rumors. Thais sh@t needs to stop. A couple people "think" Margarito did something illegal, so therefore he did? Even if he did cheat, it is still inexcusable at this time to jump to conclusions. The guys reputation is at stake and for the years of battles he has given the fans we owe him more than that

[blegit]

What is with all the hatred on this site lately. Some people on here cant differenciate facts from opinions or rumors. Thais sh@t needs to stop. A couple people "think" Margarito did something illegal, so therefore he did? Even if he did cheat, it is still inexcusable at this time to jump to conclusions. The guys reputation is at stake and for the years of battles he has given the fans we owe him more than that

A couple of people think he did something illegal Thats hilarious. How about the Commission, a doctor, and the opposing trainer? Do they mean anything? What Margarito did is being belittle! Has anyone making comments for Margarito ever boxed? This is the worst crime you can commit in boxing!!! Margarito was one hand away from getting away with this. One hand was already approved and Nazeem came in during the second hand being wrapped and noticed it was too bulky and then notice it was hard as a rock. Thats when they noticed the approved hand had the plaster in it also. That one hadn't hardened just yet that is how he got away with that hand. Had he timed the second plaster as to it still being soft then he would have gotten away cleanly. You have such a high rate of ruining someone's career and even health in this way. People do die from boxing, why the hell should aiding the chances, illegally, be taken lightly in any kind of way? For those who haven't boxed and are trying to defend Margarito why don't you spar an experienced fighter with plaster in their wraps. Thought so. Now imagine doing this in a fight and the gloves are even smaller. It would be brutal. All the opponent would have to do is land punches and they would be more damaging than your flush shots. Margarito and his camp need fined and suspended!!! But I am sure he will only get a slap on the wrist because Mosley didn't get to lose his health because the wraps were caught before. Thats like slapping someone on the wrist if he only put a hit out someone and the plan was foiled only minutes before it was carried out. I used to be a big Margarito fan but as a boxer of 17 years, this makes me sick to my stomach.