Seems FROCH wants to fight and Taylor does'nt

[ClubberLang]

Taylor's team was interested, but business is business. Taylor is a far bigger name than Froch and therefore deserves the lion's share of the purse. Plus, HBO was not interested in the fight. I think Showtime expressed an interest, but Froch's team is not being realistic on the money. If it goes to a purse bid, the fight won't happen because per WBC rules their champion is entitled to a 70-30 split.

[Rantcatrat]

Taylor's team was interested, but business is business. Taylor is a far bigger name than Froch and therefore deserves the lion's share of the purse. Plus, HBO was not interested in the fight. I think Showtime expressed an interest, but Froch's team is not being realistic on the money. If it goes to a purse bid, the fight won't happen because per WBC rules their champion is entitled to a 70-30 split.

Not true.

Per WBC Rule 2.12(d): "Notwithstanding the terms of subparagraphs a), b) and c) above, the Board of Governors may, in its discretion and by a majority vote, modify the division of purse offer proceeds between boxers in a purse offer in unusual or special cases, like the consideration of the outstanding marketing value of one of the boxers. The modification of the split will be limited to three categories: 70-30%; 60-40%; and 55-45% for the Champion and challenger, respectively, except in the most exceptional circumstances, in which the split may be modified to 50-50%."

I'm sure Dibella and Froch's promoter could convincingly make the argument it was an "unusual case."

[Fenster]

Taylor's team was interested, but business is business. Taylor is a far bigger name than Froch and therefore deserves the lion's share of the purse. Plus, HBO was not interested in the fight. I think Showtime expressed an interest, but Froch's team is not being realistic on the money. If it goes to a purse bid, the fight won't happen because per WBC rules their champion is entitled to a 70-30 split.

Not true.

Per WBC Rule 2.12(d): "Notwithstanding the terms of subparagraphs a), b) and c) above, the Board of Governors may, in its discretion and by a majority vote, modify the division of purse offer proceeds between boxers in a purse offer in unusual or special cases, like the consideration of the outstanding marketing value of one of the boxers. The modification of the split will be limited to three categories: 70-30%; 60-40%; and 55-45% for the Champion and challenger, respectively, except in the most exceptional circumstances, in which the split may be modified to 50-50%."

Problem is.. the purse bids wont be big enough to satisfy what Taylor is already demanding.

[Rantcatrat]

Taylor's team was interested, but business is business. Taylor is a far bigger name than Froch and therefore deserves the lion's share of the purse. Plus, HBO was not interested in the fight. I think Showtime expressed an interest, but Froch's team is not being realistic on the money. If it goes to a purse bid, the fight won't happen because per WBC rules their champion is entitled to a 70-30 split.

Not true.

Per WBC Rule 2.12(d): "Notwithstanding the terms of subparagraphs a), b) and c) above, the Board of Governors may, in its discretion and by a majority vote, modify the division of purse offer proceeds between boxers in a purse offer in unusual or special cases, like the consideration of the outstanding marketing value of one of the boxers. The modification of the split will be limited to three categories: 70-30%; 60-40%; and 55-45% for the Champion and challenger, respectively, except in the most exceptional circumstances, in which the split may be modified to 50-50%."

Problem is.. the purse bids wont be big enough to satisfy what Taylor is already demanding.

I'm sure they could sign at 50/50 and work out other details to give Taylor a bigger portion of the pie.

[Fenster]

Taylor's team was interested, but business is business. Taylor is a far bigger name than Froch and therefore deserves the lion's share of the purse. Plus, HBO was not interested in the fight. I think Showtime expressed an interest, but Froch's team is not being realistic on the money. If it goes to a purse bid, the fight won't happen because per WBC rules their champion is entitled to a 70-30 split.

Can you explain why?

What type of figure is realistic for Froch to fight in the states? Considering he is the champion

[Rantcatrat]

Taylor's team was interested, but business is business. Taylor is a far bigger name than Froch and therefore deserves the lion's share of the purse. Plus, HBO was not interested in the fight. I think Showtime expressed an interest, but Froch's team is not being realistic on the money. If it goes to a purse bid, the fight won't happen because per WBC rules their champion is entitled to a 70-30 split.

Can you explain why?

What type of figure is realistic for Froch to fight in the states? Considering he is the champion

60-40 Taylor or 50-50.

However, you're looking at this from the point of view that Froch is better off not accepting Taylor's terms. Regardless of whether Taylor gets the better of Froch in the purse, if Froch beats Taylor, his stock will rise astronomically. If he is so confident he'll win, why not negotiate to the aforementioned amounts or take the 700k? He'll come away with huge income potential for his next fights and huge leverage in negotiations. On the way up, a fighter needs to sacrifice a little to get a lot.

[Fenster]

Taylor's team was interested, but business is business. Taylor is a far bigger name than Froch and therefore deserves the lion's share of the purse. Plus, HBO was not interested in the fight. I think Showtime expressed an interest, but Froch's team is not being realistic on the money. If it goes to a purse bid, the fight won't happen because per WBC rules their champion is entitled to a 70-30 split.

Can you explain why?

What type of figure is realistic for Froch to fight in the states? Considering he is the champion

60-40 Taylor or 50-50.

However, you're looking at this from the point of view that Froch is better off not accepting Taylor's terms. Regardless of whether Taylor gets the better of Froch in the purse, if Froch beats Taylor, his stock will rise astronomically. If he is so confident he'll win, why not negotiate to the aforementioned amounts or take the 700k? He'll come away with huge income potential for his next fights and huge leverage in negotiations. On the way up, a fighter needs to sacrifice a little to get a lot.

No i'm not. I couldn't care less if they fought for a pint of beer, or Taylor got all the money and Froch nothing.

I'm interested in what a "realsitic" amount of money is for Froch. How much did he get for the Pascal fight?

60-40/50-50 is miles from what Taylor is demanding. The article says - Froch was being offered $650,000 to fight in the United States, with Taylor set to take home $1.6 million.

[Kirkland Laing]

Can you explain why?

What type of figure is realistic for Froch to fight in the states? Considering he is the champion

60-40 Taylor or 50-50.

However, you're looking at this from the point of view that Froch is better off not accepting Taylor's terms. Regardless of whether Taylor gets the better of Froch in the purse, if Froch beats Taylor, his stock will rise astronomically. If he is so confident he'll win, why not negotiate to the aforementioned amounts or take the 700k? He'll come away with huge income potential for his next fights and huge leverage in negotiations. On the way up, a fighter needs to sacrifice a little to get a lot.

No i'm not. I couldn't care less if they fought for a pint of beer, or Taylor got all the money and Froch nothing.

I'm interested in what a "realsitic" amount of money is for Froch. How much did he get for the Pascal fight?

60-40/50-50 is miles from what Taylor is demanding. The article says - Froch was being offered $650,000 to fight in the United States, with Taylor set to take home $1.6 million.

Yeah basically this ridiculous offer is Taylor's people saying fuck off, we don't want to fight you. Whether that's because they think he'll lose or whether there are more attractive options elsewhere is another thing. I would guess about an 80/20 or 90/10 split there favouring the more attractive options versus the risk.

[amat]

Taylor has so much better fights out there, even Andre Ward would be a better fight which has been discussed recently and would be accepted by HBO.

[Fenster]

60-40 Taylor or 50-50.

However, you're looking at this from the point of view that Froch is better off not accepting Taylor's terms. Regardless of whether Taylor gets the better of Froch in the purse, if Froch beats Taylor, his stock will rise astronomically. If he is so confident he'll win, why not negotiate to the aforementioned amounts or take the 700k? He'll come away with huge income potential for his next fights and huge leverage in negotiations. On the way up, a fighter needs to sacrifice a little to get a lot.

No i'm not. I couldn't care less if they fought for a pint of beer, or Taylor got all the money and Froch nothing.

I'm interested in what a "realsitic" amount of money is for Froch. How much did he get for the Pascal fight?

60-40/50-50 is miles from what Taylor is demanding. The article says - Froch was being offered $650,000 to fight in the United States, with Taylor set to take home $1.6 million.

Yeah basically this ridiculous offer is Taylor's people saying fuck off, we don't want to fight you. Whether that's because they think he'll lose or whether there are more attractive options elsewhere is another thing. I would guess about an 80/20 or 90/10 split there favouring the more attractive options versus the risk.

Yes. It's all very well saying Froch should accept ANY offer but that's clearly not reality.

First off, no-one can answer what a realistic number is for Froch to take.

Secondly, Taylor's mob know Froch's mob aren't going to take a split that greatly favours the challenger in his own backyard.

Ive read/heard even US reporters saying Team Taylor don't want this fight.

[Rantcatrat]

I'm not particularly a fan of Froch's, I'm not anti-Froch, but he isn't my favorite fighter, but from a fan of Froch's perspective, my point is that a Taylor fight would be great for his career and he should take it regardless of the money involved. Who else is he going to fight? Mads Larsen? Is Froch really going to fight Bika or Bute in the UK? Doubtful. If he passes this up, there is a chance he won't get another opportunity to fight against a fighter with this big of a name, and as a fan you will watch him fight average domestic fighters for the next year. Or...he sucks it up, fights Taylor, and if he wins, everyone and their mom will be calling him out.

On the other hand, everyone and their mom is already calling out Taylor...