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    Default Re: Haye Ranked 4th at Heavy WTF!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post

    Thanks bud. I understand alot of the hate towards Haye. He's a cocky guy who thinks alot about his image and has engineered his shot well. But the guy doesn't duck anyone. 4th might be a lil steep in the rankings, but he's inside the top 10 no doubt for me.
    Has nothing to do with that....Basically it says F*** YOU to the guys who fight through the ranks to earn their spot

    Imagine if you are the 5th ranked guy in the division and have been at it fighting everyone willing to fight and have been improving each time out training hard and paying your dues...all of a sudden you are under a guy who just stopped in from somewhere else
    Sorry but remind me who this guy in the heavyweight division again?

    First off the rankings referred to here are Boxing Monthly's a UK magazine and therefore utterly meaningless in the scheme of things so no top 5 contender is going to feel disgruntles. Secondly, if you are referring to the real alphabet rankings, since when whey they based on merit? It's which promoter is paying them which fees for them to rank you, simple as.

    Aside from that I agree with bzkfn, Haye was the unified cruiserweight champ. If it was any other division and the two time unified champ moved it would be seen as a bizarre omission not to have him in the rankings once he had fought and won at a higher weight class.

    Barrett fought a world title only a little over a year ago and was rated in the top 10 by one organisation when Haye fought so Haye knocking him out in style along with his cruiserweight credentials means he is deserving of a top ten ranking.

    Maybe not top 4 but come on I hate the guy but I'd have a job convincing myself that the likes of Ibragimov, Valuev and Maskaev could beat him. You'd have to fancy Haye to beat all those guys with ease really.

    First off if you had just a bit of thought behind it you would realize the comment was a scenario in general and it matters none on the division, weight class or the fact Haye was the CW champion, fact is he WAS the CRUISERWEIGHT champion

    But IF we want to just use the HW rankings we will..

    I am sure that if you were lets say Sam Peter who is one fight removed from being a world champion you would be wondering how the hell did this guy get ranked higher then me since he just started a legit campaign at HW 1 fight ago...OR Ibragimov who is also only 1 fight from being a title holder and the last fight was to Wlad...

    How about Alexander Dimitrenko who is undefeated or Povetkin who is also undefeated..Maybe you are Valuev who is a belt holder wondering the same thing....

    Regardless of your personal opp these guys have put their time in and these guys have fought other top ranked fighters to earn their spot so how is or should I say Haye more worthy of being ranked above them...Ragardless of your personal opp as a fan but in a legit manner..

    And Thanks for your attempt on educating me on where Boxing Monthly is..

    And as for whether or not Valuev, Ibragimov or Maskaev could or could not beat Haye means zip....Because until he either beats one of them or a fighter of higher caliber in the division it means nothing...

    Monte Barrett is a joke of a fighter at this point...

    He went on a 3 in a row losing streak..2 by KO...His wins before Haye were a rematch over Causer that he had been ko'd by the fight before and Tye Fields....How does beating that guy merit ranking over a current champion and 2 former title holders 1 fight removed from being champion
    Last edited by DaxxKahn; 01-29-2009 at 08:51 PM. Reason: My spelling Sucks!!
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