Plaster Vs. Steriods

[Chino]

And if he had is found innocent? look at the black mark thats left on his record regardless.

Sad but true .
It's like those goldigging slutty whores who falsely accuse rich men of rape and when these men are found innocent. These guys' reputation is already damaged FOR EVER. They loose their jobs, friends, etc. While the false accusing bitch prances her way out of the court and looks for another victim to make her rich.

As for Nazim, he has every right to question what's going on in the other corner and if Margarito didn't have anything then let it be.

I'm sorry, but this is a fairly poor analysis IMO.

And this is the court of public opinion. And the point is simple, and especially in my reply. When people like Onix try to attack Mosely in defence of Margo, if causes people like myself to draw a line and make statements one way or another.

So basically, if you can't be objective and just quietly wait for the full truth to come out, then don't biatch about what those who may not feel the same as you...have to say.

In other words, you can't be walking around flapping your lips on the topic, and expect others to be quiet and not express opinion ...just because they don't agree with you.

Dude,
Calm down, I presented BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN by saying that how bad it would be for Margarito to have his reputation ruined but also said that Nazim has every right to question what goes on in the other corner.

[Youngblood]

Dude,
Calm down, I presented BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN by saying that how bad it would be for Margarito to have his reputation ruined but also said that Nazim has every right to question what goes on in the other corner.

lol dude. you calm down. You likened people questioning his integrity and guilt to, and let me quote you...

"those golddigging slutty whores who falsely accuse rich men of rape etc..."

And it is a shitty analysis and analogy, because as fans, we have nothing to gain by Margarito being proved guilty. We all lose.

[Chino]

Dude,
Calm down, I presented BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN by saying that how bad it would be for Margarito to have his reputation ruined but also said that Nazim has every right to question what goes on in the other corner.

lol dude. you calm down. You likened people questioning his integrity and guilt to, and let me quote you...

"those golddigging slutty whores who falsely accuse rich men of rape etc..."

And it is a shitty analysis and analogy, because as fans, we have nothing to gain by Margarito being proved guilty. We all lose.

When I used te example of whores who falsely accuse I was refering to the fact that, let's say Margarito is found innocent, well, his reputation is ruined anyways and guess what people will wonder from here on "Oh, I wonder if Margarito cheated to win like that". It will be hard to avoid. So when a whore falsely accuses and the other guy is found innocent, nothing happens to her. That's why I said that. Margarito's reputation would be ruined and Nazim would be just fine..BUT! Nazim also has every right to question what goes on in the opponent's corner. So I don't really see Nazim as the villain of the story here. See what I mean? I even told Danny to wait until we were 100% sure what happened. That is why I am seeing both sides of the coin.

I am calmed down, you are the one who came here telling me to not be upset if others disagree with me. Dude, its a forum, I expect people to agree and disagree with me. No problem.

It's all good.

[Youngblood]

But you are clearly missing the point, that in that situation there is some thing to gain. Why else would you use the term 'gold digger'.

It is a fairly offensive statement, and doesn't sound calm to me at all.

I'm pretty chill...especially now that Onix helped me vent my frustration by continually attacking Mosely, and so my first post in this thread.

Here's a thought. If it bothers you that others speculate, so much that you feel the need to call them 'similar to slutty golddigging whores' ...maybe don't fuel the fire by continuing on about it.

I'm guessing you are enjoying it and the drama. And being a hypocrite in the process by telling others to wait and see, but yet keep piping up in threads with an opinion on it.

[Chino]

But you are clearly missing the point, that in that situation there is some thing to gain. Why else would you use the term 'gold digger'

I used that term for those girls who falsely accuse guys of rape to get some money. Just like Deseree Washington with Mike Tyson, that girl that accused Kobe Bryant, Bobby Bonilla, and bunch of other celebrities. These guys either go to jail like Mike Tyson or even though they may be found innocent, their reputation is ruined. A girl like that is a golddigger slut. Just used it as an example of someone who ruins someone's reputation regardless of them coming out innocent. What happens to the accuser? Nothing. What happens to the accused? A lot .

Here's a thought. If it bothers you that others speculate, so much that you feel the need to call them 'similar to slutty golddigging whores' ...maybe don't fuel the fire by continuing on about it

Dude, you are not getting the example. Fine, let's erase the word "golddigger" and keep it down to "slutty accusing whore" if you want. When I said "goldigger" I was not directing that to ANYBODY in here or in boxing. I was just using that word to illustrate what a false accuser is. Is it clear now?

And being a hypocrite in the process by telling others to wait and see, but yet keep piping up in threads with an opinion on it.

Go back to what I first posted mentioning BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN, sheesh! And now you call me a hypocrite. I'll repeat it again: If Margarito comes out innocent, how bad, his reputation is ruined. It will be hard for the casual fan to not question Margarito's victories from here on. THEN AGAIN, Nazim has all the rights to ask what goes on in the opponent's corner...Do you understand now?

[Youngblood]

Actually no...not clear at all. You can break it down 6 ways from Sunday, and it is what it is. Sounds like you have an issue with women and accusations of rape.

And yes, I do call you a hypocrite.

[Chino]

Actually no...not clear at all. You can break it down 6 ways from Sunday, and it is what it is. Sounds like you have an issue with women and accusations of rape.

And now the topic is changing to rape? Oh man. I broke it down and you still didn't get it.

1.Someone accuses a person of something.
2.It all comes out to be false.
3.The accuser prances his/her way to freedom. Nothing happens to him/her.
4.The accused has his reputation ruined regardless of being found innocent.

As easy as that.

[ICB]

But you are clearly missing the point, that in that situation there is some thing to gain. Why else would you use the term 'gold digger'

I used that term for those girls who falsely accuse guys of rape to get some money. Just like Deseree Washington with Mike Tyson, that girl that accused Kobe Bryant, Bobby Bonilla, and bunch of other celebrities. These guys either go to jail like Mike Tyson or even though they may be found innocent, their reputation is ruined. A girl like that is a golddigger slut. Just used it as an example of someone who ruins someone's reputation regardless of them coming out innocent. What happens to the accuser? Nothing. What happens to the accused? A lot .

Here's a thought. If it bothers you that others speculate, so much that you feel the need to call them 'similar to slutty golddigging whores' ...maybe don't fuel the fire by continuing on about it

Dude, you are not getting the example. Fine, let's erase the word "golddigger" and keep it down to "slutty accusing whore" if you want. When I said "goldigger" I was not directing that to ANYBODY in here or in boxing. I was just using that word to illustrate what a false accuser is. Is it clear now?

And being a hypocrite in the process by telling others to wait and see, but yet keep piping up in threads with an opinion on it.

Go back to what I first posted mentioning BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN, sheesh! And now you call me a hypocrite. I'll repeat it again: If Margarito comes out innocent, how bad, his reputation is ruined. It will be hard for the casual fan to not question Margarito's victories from here on. THEN AGAIN, Nazim has all the rights to ask what goes on in the opponent's corner...Do you understand now?

Hold on a minute where is the evidence that Mike Tyson didn't rape her ? thats just your opinion that she falsely accused him, but it certainly wouldn't suprise me if he did do it, considering he is an animal outside the ring.

I think its way out of order to label someone a "slut" when you don't even know the truth, and there is no real evidence stating that he didn't do it. More often than not celebrities get away with it, because they pay people out of court, because they don't want there rep ruined. Or they have the money for some of the best lawyers in the country.

[Chino]

If calling someone 'like a goldigging slutty whore who falsely accuses rich men of rape' is not profane...I am not sure
what is

Did I attack SOMEONE who disagreed with me calling them a hypocrite or using profane language (against someone). You keep trying to look for ways around it, huh? You already saw that I am neutral on this whole case about Margarito's case and now you are trying to find other ways to get on my case. You can try looking for my spelling and grammar mistakes too (I am not 100% fluent in English yet) if you want to try something else on me.

Hold on a minute where is the evidence that Mike Tyson didn't rape her ? thats just your opinion that she falsely accused him, but it certainly wouldn't suprise me if he did do it, considering he is an animal outside the ring

Let's see...a woman visiting a guy by herself to his hotel room in the late hours of the night, with sexy lingerie, champagne, they get all affectionate, etc. Why did she go? To play chess? She was pretty smart I guess to find a way to get into his wallet. It's hard to be on someone's side, in this case, Tyson, after their behavior in and out of the ring is just not something to admire.

More often than not celebrities get away with it, because they pay people out of court, because they don't want there rep ruined. Or they have the money for some of the best lawyers in the country

I wouldn't doubt it but how about those who are really really really innocent and get falsely accused (fine, I won't use terms goldigger, slut, etc. if some people get totally offended here). Even if that person is found to be innocent, his reputation is ruined anyways while the accuser is just fine. Wouldn't it be nice to have the accuser shown all over the place for falsely accusing?