Haye Ranked 4th at Heavy WTF!!

[JT Rock]

Daxx, What are your feelings on Pac being ranked high at 135,147 by ring magazine after 1 fight at each weight

[kingfrnk]

Daxx, What are your feelings on Pac being ranked high at 135,147 by ring magazine after 1 fight at each weight

Personally i think its fukkin retarded to have pacman at 147. Because he beat Oscar at 147 who didnt fight at that weight since he beat Gatti?? Im starting to think the ring mag ratings are full of shit.

[DaxxKahn]

Daxx, What are your feelings on Pac being ranked high at 135,147 by ring magazine after 1 fight at each weight

I stand by the same opinion, like I said I gave a scenario and it just happened to be in the HW division, This is not the first time this topic has come up on these boards just with different fighters is all and I had the same opinion then..

To have Pac ranked at 147 is proposterous..The man has not even campagined there...the DLH fight was more of a catchweight situation then legit WW bout since neither campagins there or was ranked there prior

[Rantcatrat]

Daxx, What are your feelings on Pac being ranked high at 135,147 by ring magazine after 1 fight at each weight

What were his Pac's opponents ranked at those weights when he fought them? I have to agree, however, to have Pac ranked at 47' is a little bit weird. But, at 135, his first fight was against a belt-holder, albeit the weakest of the lot, but nonetheless a top five-seven ranked fighter. And wasn't Marquez, who Pac beat, already ranked in the top five in that division?

[JT Rock]

Daxx, What are your feelings on Pac being ranked high at 135,147 by ring magazine after 1 fight at each weight

What were his Pac's opponents ranked at those weights when he fought them? I have to agree, however, to have Pac ranked at 47' is a little bit weird. But, at 135, his first fight was against a belt-holder, albeit the weakest of the lot, but nonetheless a top five-seven ranked fighter. And wasn't Marquez, who Pac beat, already ranked in the top five in that division?

JMM is the ring champ at 135 weight... DLH wasnt ranked or fought at 147 for 10 years

[Kev]

Daxx, What are your feelings on Pac being ranked high at 135,147 by ring magazine after 1 fight at each weight

What were his Pac's opponents ranked at those weights when he fought them? I have to agree, however, to have Pac ranked at 47' is a little bit weird. But, at 135, his first fight was against a belt-holder, albeit the weakest of the lot, but nonetheless a top five-seven ranked fighter. And wasn't Marquez, who Pac beat, already ranked in the top five in that division?

Why is it weird though, I mean it's all boxing it's not as if a lower weight class is a different sport. The idea that all of the things of you do in a lower weight class mean nothing when you step up is frankly bizarre.

Manny is the best fighter in the world, a multiple weight champ and just annihilated Oscar De La Hoya at 147, if that gives him a place in the top 10 I see nothing wrong with that.

Don't know if he's rated higher than Collazo, Berto, Clottey or the like but if he is I have no problem with it at all. When Collazo, Berto or Clottey blow a fighter like Oscar away let me know

[Youngblood]

One thing about David Haye. He sure gets people talking. Even when he isn't talking silliness. Hence this thread. I think it's good stuff for boxing and the HW division.

[kingfrnk]

Daxx, What are your feelings on Pac being ranked high at 135,147 by ring magazine after 1 fight at each weight

What were his Pac's opponents ranked at those weights when he fought them? I have to agree, however, to have Pac ranked at 47' is a little bit weird. But, at 135, his first fight was against a belt-holder, albeit the weakest of the lot, but nonetheless a top five-seven ranked fighter. And wasn't Marquez, who Pac beat, already ranked in the top five in that division?

Why is it weird though, I mean it's all boxing it's not as if a lower weight class is a different sport. The idea that all of the things of you do in a lower weight class mean nothing when you step up is frankly bizarre.

Manny is the best fighter in the world, a multiple weight champ and just annihilated Oscar De La Hoya at 147, if that gives him a place in the top 10 I see nothing wrong with that.

Don't know if he's rated higher than Collazo, Berto, Clottey or the like but if he is I have no problem with it at all. When Collazo, Berto or Clottey blow a fighter like Oscar away let me know

JTrock just had it right. Oscar hasnt been ranked at 147 in around 10 years. So why should Pacman be ranked at 147 when he didnt beat a ranked 147 fighter.

[DatsiK]

I think too many peopel are looking at this list as a 'who's the better fighter' list. To me a top ranking list is a 'who's hot and who's not' list.. that isn't neccesarily based on their skill level, but the excitement they are currently building in the boxing scene and the excitement of future fights they may be promoting.. Haye's fight with Wlad is certainly stirring alot of excitement in the boxing scene, which based off my theory would do more than enough to warrant him a 4th place ranking.

As mentioned previously in the thread, pac man moving up to 4th-5th in the rankings after beating DLH. Well I think purely for the amount of excitement his victory started up (with the possibility of a showdown with the hitman and what not) did more than enough to warrant him a good place on the list.