Klitchkos versus cruiserweights

[El Kabong]

Well Trainer like I said the WBA is like a division by itself away from the rest of the division....Ruiz, Holyfield, Valuev, Chagaev....they haven't fought anyone remotely dangerous in recent years.

Wladimir and Vitali have fought guys who are good fighters and even their mandatories are better than who the WBA guys have fought.

[palmerq]

Well Trainer like I said the WBA is like a division by itself away from the rest of the division....Ruiz, Holyfield, Valuev, Chagaev....they haven't fought anyone remotely dangerous in recent years.

Wladimir and Vitali have fought guys who are good fighters and even their mandatories are better than who the WBA guys have fought.

I think to be fair to Chageav he has been quite badly injured since he beat Valuev, I think he was planning on fighting Ibragimov for a unification fight but caught hepatitis b or something strange like this, and after this he has some defense v skelton which is not a great fight I admit, then he tears his achilles tendon. Recently he is saying he wants to win back his belt then fight both the klitschkos(Although I think everyone says this except Valuev).

Although it is probably fairer for Chagaev a fight v Valuev for the belt again, I think it would be much better if Valuev fought Vitali, instead I think this would be a great laugh and the end of Valuev

[El Kabong]

Hell Sultan Ibragimov was in the Junior Circuit group before he stepped it up vs the likes of Lance Whittaker, Ray Austin, and then won the title from Shannon Briggs in a lackluster fight but he had the balls to fight Chagaev but ended up fighting the best (Wladimir) in another lackluster fight and IMO a lot of the blame for that fight being boring was on Sultan and not Wlad....but it takes two to tango so you can't place ALL the blame on him.

I just hope in the future Sultan Ibragimov really tries to test himself vs the best when he does decide to trade he is a pretty exciting fighter.

Perhaps the posters can suggest some interesting matchups that 2009 could bring us I know I have a couple that I would love to see.

[Jody Lane]

I agree it would have been better for Haye to have fought someone more highly ranked then we would have had a better idea how he would do against Wlad. But I think it has been well said in this thread that the divide between the K brothers and the rest of the pack is pretty wide. I was around during the 1970s when the round robin went on when Ali, Frazier, Norton, Foreman and Shavers tooks turns beating the crap out of each other and I just don't see the rivalries being set up (unless you count the grand trllogy of Ruiz-Holyfield,, excuse while I gag on a hair ball).

I guess we'll have to wait for Wlad to run into another Corrie Sanders or Vitali to start breaking down again. Not to make fun of Vitali, he's a great fighter, just so injury prone probably from those years in the amateurs.

[Wayne]

Hell Sultan Ibragimov was in the Junior Circuit group before he stepped it up vs the likes of Lance Whittaker, Ray Austin, and then won the title from Shannon Briggs in a lackluster fight but he had the balls to fight Chagaev but ended up fighting the best (Wladimir) in another lackluster fight and IMO a lot of the blame for that fight being boring was on Sultan and not Wlad....but it takes two to tango so you can't place ALL the blame on him.

I just hope in the future Sultan Ibragimov really tries to test himself vs the best when he does decide to trade he is a pretty exciting fighter.

Perhaps the posters can suggest some interesting matchups that 2009 could bring us I know I have a couple that I would love to see.

I don't fault Ibragimov for fighting like that. If he had opened up more do you think he would have had more of a chance of winning or more of a chance of getting knocked out?