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    Quote Originally Posted by asero View Post
    my question to you is...why cant joe cal cant KO bhop where in bhop KOed trinidad and delahoya...bhop was a natural 160 fight joe at a higher weight. bhop's reign in 160 is so long just to deny him a top 40 spot. at he is a measure for future generations of still being competitive p4p past the age of 40..he is timeless and his wins are sgnificant.

    why only question on JC is why cant he KO jones and bhop..please answer me...he performed well in those two fights, but where is the drama?
    You made the list my friend. You rated Hopkins 30. That's why i'm asking you to justify his position. I agree he is a GREAT fighter BUT what is so special about his middleweight reign that elevates him so far above Calzaghe?

    Your questions..

    Hopkins ko'd Oscar and Trinidad because their best weight was Welter. He was naturally much bigger than them.

    Hopkins fought Tarver at 175 before facing Calzaghe. Calzaghe moved up in weight to face Hopkins.

    You are marking down Calzaghe for not being able to KO TWO GREAT fighters. That's a bit harsh isn't it? Especially considering Calzaghe is a veteran himself with a career history of hand problems, especially his left, which by his own admission is knackered.
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    To be honest I think Joe could have taken out Jones if he wanted to, as for B-Hop although the fight was very close, Imo there was a chance Joe could have stopped him late if Hopkins didn't take his 5 min break. Still think Hopkins deserves to be rated high though, the mans a freak.
    I would take points away from fighters that never fought outside there comfort zone ie PBF, RJJ. Thats where old school guys like Ali and Tyson score high for me because they fought all over the world, true World champions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    To be honest I think Joe could have taken out Jones if he wanted to, as for B-Hop although the fight was very close, Imo there was a chance Joe could have stopped him late if Hopkins didn't take his 5 min break. Still think Hopkins deserves to be rated high though, the mans a freak.
    I would take points away from fighters that never fought outside there comfort zone ie PBF, RJJ. Thats where old school guys like Ali and Tyson score high for me because they fought all over the world, true World champions
    Sorry but RJJ beat 4 HOF's Floyd Mayweather beat two top 10 P4P fighters, aswell as a load of other good names like RJJ did. I can't believe you say they never fought outside there comfort zone. When they moved up so many weightclasses. Then say someone like Mike Tyson fought outside his comfort zone, when he avoided more fighters in the 90s than i can count on my fingers and toes.

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    guys, how would you put lewis, holyfield, holmes, foreman and frazier in your top 100.. i may have overrated lewis and underrated foreman but im ok with that placing. foreman is not a top 50 guy for me...how would you rank these heavies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    To be honest I think Joe could have taken out Jones if he wanted to, as for B-Hop although the fight was very close, Imo there was a chance Joe could have stopped him late if Hopkins didn't take his 5 min break. Still think Hopkins deserves to be rated high though, the mans a freak.
    I would take points away from fighters that never fought outside there comfort zone ie PBF, RJJ. Thats where old school guys like Ali and Tyson score high for me because they fought all over the world, true World champions
    Sorry but RJJ beat 4 HOF's Floyd Mayweather beat two top 10 P4P fighters, aswell as a load of other good names like RJJ did. I can't believe you say they never fought outside there comfort zone. When they moved up so many weightclasses. Then say someone like Mike Tyson fought outside his comfort zone, when he avoided more fighters in the 90s than i can count on my fingers and toes.
    no I know they both moved up and beat quality opponents but what I meant by never fought outside there comfort zone(probably the wrong phrase) is that they fought there whole carears in there own country, and I know people say RJJ was right to because of the olympics but for me a true great ie Ali fights and wins all over the world

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