Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

[Kirkland Laing]

I'm not wanting to get into this before we know the results of the inquiry but I read one guy who says he's been boxing for 20 years and said there's no way on earth anybody doesn't know what's in their wraps. Is this true?

[Phil]

Is it just me or is this taking a crazy amount of time to get the results?
I mean if it was plaster would it not be dry and rock hard now? u think these experts would have been able to sort this shit by now...

[DC Amateur Boxing]

Is it just me or is this taking a crazy amount of time to get the results?
I mean if it was plaster would it not be dry and rock hard now? u think these experts would have been able to sort this shit by now...

It's probably because the statement will include the results, the punishment and the precident for the punishment to make sure that it can stick legally. If it was nothing, I think they would have said that already. "We checked and it's just gause" wouldn't take that long, IMO.

[Phil]

Is it just me or is this taking a crazy amount of time to get the results?
I mean if it was plaster would it not be dry and rock hard now? u think these experts would have been able to sort this shit by now...

It's probably because the statement will include the results, the punishment and the precident for the punishment to make sure that it can stick legally. If it was nothing, I think they would have said that already. "We checked and it's just gause" wouldn't take that long, IMO.

yeah but if he was guilty I'd have thought they'd come out and say, yes an illegal substance was used, then they could go about doing all the legal mumbojumbo shit... just wish they'd release the damn results already

[blegit]

I'm not wanting to get into this before we know the results of the inquiry but I read one guy who says he's been boxing for 20 years and said there's no way on earth anybody doesn't know what's in their wraps. Is this true?

This is absolutely true. I boxed for 17 years and am now a coach and trainer. I wrap hands and have had them wrapped hundreds of times. After a couple of years you can tell every little bit of difference with the gauze. You can tell if its too tight, if there is more or less tape, if there is more or less gauze, and definitely if there is something(especially plaster) added. If Margarito says he did know then he is lying. But what can he really say? He has no other way out. He must play ignorant. I was a Margarito fan but knowing how hard it is in the ring without loaded your gloves I can no longer stand him or his team. This is capital punishment for boxing. Ignorant or dishonest fans can play the "innocent until proven guilty" card all they want but there has to be a lot of truth to this. The approach Margarito's trainer is trying "there was too much gauze" doesn't get you suspended and investigated or a representative of the commission spreading a rumor that is a plaster like substance. I was on the circuit for many years and fighters get told regularly they have too much gauze or tape and never has one of them got suspended. Because there is nothing to investigate. Gauze and tape are LEGAL. Gauze, tape, and vaseline are legal and if you have too much you are instructed to remove. They make them rewrap it or remove it all the time and most times the fans hear nothing of it. Fighters want to find the hardest fist they can have but are restricted to using only what is allowed, gauze and tape, and an approved discretionary amount. This whole situation disgusts me because I have heard so many people try to cop Margarito out in anyway possible. Ignorance, conspiracy, innocent until proven guilty, blah blah blah. Put yourself in the ring across from a guy who is suspended while being investigated for loading his gloves with stone. Imagine you were brutally beaten and knocked out by a guy, like Cotto, who even before his next fight is caught with plaster like substance in his wraps. Would you have the same pro Margarito take? Be dishonest in this forum but keep it real with yourself. People who box are disgusted and rightfully so.