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Re: Fights that could help the heavyweight division.
All the champions are just fighting mandatories instead of fighting each other for how long now? I think champions fighting champions are what can POSSIBLY make this division interesting. But now Vlad and Vitali have most of the belts so that isn't going to happen.
When Peter, Valuev, Maskaev, Chagaev, Wlad had belts at some point recently, they should've been fighting each other.
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Re: Fights that could help the heavyweight division.
Your spot on. Why a Wlad-Valuev fight hasn't been made yet I don't know. I've been waiting for a Klitschko to fight him for the last couple of years. I think it could sell very well if they did it right.Originally Posted by C-Lo
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Your spot on. Why a Wlad-Valuev fight hasn't been made yet I don't know. I've been waiting for a Klitschko to fight him for the last couple of years. I think it could sell very well if they did it right.
It wont happen because valuevs camp knows the mans limits and that someone as tall as either klitschko with any remote talent is gonna box his head off and maybe even send him to the canvas.
Valuev will never fight a klitschko, povetkin, haye etc because the german/european public still eats up seeing him in with either a has been or a guy who simply has no real boxing prowess to counter someone thats 7`3
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Re: Fights that could help the heavyweight division.
Ha, that's the main reason I wan't to see itYour spot on. Why a Wlad-Valuev fight hasn't been made yet I don't know. I've been waiting for a Klitschko to fight him for the last couple of years. I think it could sell very well if they did it right.
It wont happen because valuevs camp knows the mans limits and that someone as tall as either klitschko with any remote talent is gonna box his head off and maybe even send him to the canvas.
Valuev will never fight a klitschko, povetkin, haye etc because the german/european public still eats up seeing him in with either a has been or a guy who simply has no real boxing prowess to counter someone thats 7`3
Unfortunately your probably right about him never facing a top HW.
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As far as I'm concerned Valuev's card has already been pulled. Wlad said a couple years ago that he'd love to fight Valuev and knew it was a fight the public would want. Any real heavyweight worth his salt would have been frothing at the mouth after THE champ said he'd like to fight him.Your spot on. Why a Wlad-Valuev fight hasn't been made yet I don't know. I've been waiting for a Klitschko to fight him for the last couple of years. I think it could sell very well if they did it right.
It wont happen because valuevs camp knows the mans limits and that someone as tall as either klitschko with any remote talent is gonna box his head off and maybe even send him to the canvas.
Valuev will never fight a klitschko, povetkin, haye etc because the german/european public still eats up seeing him in with either a has been or a guy who simply has no real boxing prowess to counter someone thats 7`3
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Re: Fights that could help the heavyweight division.
A David Haye fight.
He is the saviour of this current lackluster division....
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HA, you are such a HOMER! It took David Haye 5 rounds to KO Monte Barrett a guy who Cliff Couser KO'd in 2 less than a year ago AND Nicolay Valuev KO'd in 11 a year ago AND a guy who Wladimir Klitschko KO'd in 7; 9 years ago AND he was the first to KO Monte too.
David Haye is the new Frank Bruno....I know you Brits love some damn Frank Bruno, and I love how he was a dramatic fighter but David Haye isn't the savior of the division not by a long shot!
As much as people may hate on Vitali and most especially Wladimir they forget that those two guys are extremely talented fighters....not JUST boxers but fighters.
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Answer me this Lyle.HA, you are such a HOMER! It took David Haye 5 rounds to KO Monte Barrett a guy who Cliff Couser KO'd in 2 less than a year ago AND Nicolay Valuev KO'd in 11 a year ago AND a guy who Wladimir Klitschko KO'd in 7; 9 years ago AND he was the first to KO Monte too.
David Haye is the new Frank Bruno....I know you Brits love some damn Frank Bruno, and I love how he was a dramatic fighter but David Haye isn't the savior of the division not by a long shot!
As much as people may hate on Vitali and most especially Wladimir they forget that those two guys are extremely talented fighters....not JUST boxers but fighters.
What do you think will happen if David Haye lands a right hand FLUSH on Wladimir Klitchsko's chin ? Ill tell you. He'll go down and stay down.
Wlad has never felt power like Haye's FACT. Haye had devastating power at Cruiserweight. And yet he was weight drained. Look what he did to Monte Barret. Floored him 5 times in 5 rounds, destroyed the kid. Thats a little indication of what's coming to Wlad. If Tony Thompson could land all night what do you think Haye will do? Thompson is garbage and has no power, yet got through every time.
Wlad's defence is awful. He just uses that jab to paw his way through. Once Haye gets round that jab (And he will) it's lights out for Wladimir. If Sam Peter can floor him 3 times ? It's a pretty scary thought to see waht David Haye can and will do.
You got to remember as well Haye LOVES opponents like Wlad. Tall, upright and chinny. Look at the Alexander Gurov fight, he was like 6 foot 5. And Haye knocked him out in the first round.
Once Haye connects, Wlad hits the deck. EVERY time Wlad has faced somebody determined and fresh he has been knocked out. Forget frauds like Ray Austin and Sultan Ibragimov. In June (If Wlad has the balls to fight Haye) we will see a new HW champ. One that will put excitement back in this horrible division.
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Talk sense Lyle, Haye is nothing like Bruno and we'll have proof when he KO's Wlad!HA, you are such a HOMER! It took David Haye 5 rounds to KO Monte Barrett a guy who Cliff Couser KO'd in 2 less than a year ago AND Nicolay Valuev KO'd in 11 a year ago AND a guy who Wladimir Klitschko KO'd in 7; 9 years ago AND he was the first to KO Monte too.
David Haye is the new Frank Bruno....I know you Brits love some damn Frank Bruno, and I love how he was a dramatic fighter but David Haye isn't the savior of the division not by a long shot!
As much as people may hate on Vitali and most especially Wladimir they forget that those two guys are extremely talented fighters....not JUST boxers but fighters.
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This is half the reason I dislike Haye. If he had actual accomplishments in the division before comments like these were made I would be drinking the kool-aid too. The HW division is filled with studs; the problem is match-ups. A lot of them may not be mature enough for the national stage, but that doesn't make them not good.
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EXACTLY they just aren't ready because they haven't fought who they need to fight to be fully prepared for the guys that hold titles right now. And they haven't had the in-fight experiences they need to be well rounded.
Last edited by El Kabong; 02-04-2009 at 10:45 AM.
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