Toney: I'll KO Hopkins

[JT Rock]

Otherwise even at 185 toney will still be a very straight forward fighter that hopkins will simply run rings around and take a unanimous points decision or even a late stoppage.

On the contrary Toney is a slick counterpuncher, he is not Pavlik nor will he come in without a plan b

He is also 40 years of age, and would be losing over 20kg's in weight to face Hopkins. Hopkins is older, but always in shape. Im a long time Toney fan, but the whole proposition sounds absurd.

I hear you miles, but the point of my post was to show that obviously HTH knows little about Toney to say he is a straight forward fighter

[ICB]

On the contrary Toney is a slick counterpuncher, he is not Pavlik nor will he come in without a plan b

He is also 40 years of age, and would be losing over 20kg's in weight to face Hopkins. Hopkins is older, but always in shape. Im a long time Toney fan, but the whole proposition sounds absurd.

I hear you miles, but the point of my post was to show that obviously HTH knows little about Toney to say he is a straight forward fighter

To be honest i think he's knowledge is very little on alot of boxers, his post about Pernell Whitaker in the other thread was absurd. Now this one ain't much better, he needs to watch his fights against.

Michael Nunn
Iran Barkley
Vassiliy Jirov
Mike McCallum
Charles Williams

ETC.

James Toney is a throwback fighter he can box beautifully rolling with the punches, he can find angles brilliantly his countering skills are top notch. James Toney is like a boxer from the 1950's he really is the complete package, he just often didn't train enough which let him down.

[HattonTheHammer]

On the contrary Toney is a slick counterpuncher, he is not Pavlik nor will he come in without a plan b

He is also 40 years of age, and would be losing over 20kg's in weight to face Hopkins. Hopkins is older, but always in shape. Im a long time Toney fan, but the whole proposition sounds absurd.

I hear you miles, but the point of my post was to show that obviously HTH knows little about Toney to say he is a straight forward fighter

He`s a 40 year blob who would have to conceed an endless amount of muscle to get down to 185 and you seriously think he`s gonna do anything other than attempt to go straight to route 1

PS:Ive seen a good dozen Toney fights so once again JT your accusations fall on death ears

[JT Rock]

He is also 40 years of age, and would be losing over 20kg's in weight to face Hopkins. Hopkins is older, but always in shape. Im a long time Toney fan, but the whole proposition sounds absurd.

I hear you miles, but the point of my post was to show that obviously HTH knows little about Toney to say he is a straight forward fighter

He`s a 40 year blob who would have to conceed an endless amount of muscle to get down to 185 and you seriously think he`s gonna do anything other than attempt to go straight to route 1

PS:Ive seen a good dozen Toney fights so once again JT your accusations fall on death ears

If you have watched a good dozen Toney fights then you should know he isint a STRAIGHT FORWARD FIGHTER!!!!! Never has been, why the hell would he be one now

There is a big damn difference saying YOU THINK TONEY AT 40 AND LOSING SO MUCH WEIGHT, MIGHT REVERT TO HAVING TO BE A STRAIGHT FORWARD FIGHTER IN YOUR OPINION....

OR

James Toney is a straight forward fighter, like you claimed which he clearly is quite the opposite, seeing he is known for being one of the best defensive fighting counter punchers of the past 50 years

[OumaFan]

Absolutely absurd.

Toney would have to go on the Christian Bale diet from that movie The Machinist to make 185.

Not that it matters, he's shot, Hopkins beats him at heavyweight or 185, he's not Roy Jones shot but he's pretty shot.

[Spicoli]

Man I have always liked Toney,the swagger,the tight layed back pivots and crunching 6 inch rights.But he really needs to hang them up.Being real here....there is no way in helz that he's making 185,forget about it.He could amputate both legs and still struggle.Two of my all time favs but a literal case of the two going in opposite directions,with Hopkins I cannot believe I'm saying that,at 43 ??This is one of those "p4p" dream matchups that never happened back in the day,I would have picked Hopkins in a nip & tuck fight.