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    Default Re: Top 100 All-Time Greats: Post your list here...

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    These all-time great lists are impossible.

    When trying to justify one fighters great attributes over anothers, the Roy-Hopkins argument alone shows how it's impossible to avoid hypocritical inconsistencies. Even though Roy BEAT Hopkins, he is still not regarded a better fighter by many.

    The problem with boxing, compared with other sports, is most fighters only meet ONCE. It's rare to have rematches let alone a number of fights to establish the dominant fighter (with older exceptions like Robinson-LaMotta). And because of this almost every match has an excuse attached to it.

    Too old
    Too young
    Too small
    Past his best
    Weight drained
    Robbed

    Excuses, excuses, excuses, excuses.

    completely agree, even things like glove sizes would have to be brought into play

    Its not hard to see that fighters like leonard, robinson, ali, frazier would of been great great fighters in any given era.

    But then you reach the questionable guys like jack johnson, marciano, charles etc and wonder if their records really were buffed out through fighting just ordinary guys instead of true greats.


    PS:I know ive already asked this question but..........


    PERNELL WHITAKER, above the likes of hagler, lewis, hopkins


    thats about as bizzare as eugene williams scoring the 1st holyfield, lewis fight 115-113 for evander!!!!!!!
    Are you kidding me ? you don't know much about boxing if you don't think Pernell Whitaker is rated above those 3 fighters. He only lost 1 fight convincingly and that was when he was way past his best, against Felix Triniad and being on drugs too at the time aswell as inactivity.

    Azumah Nelson
    Julio Cesar Chavez = He beat him.
    Diosbelys Hurtado
    Jose Luis Ramirez = He beat him twice.
    Roger Mayweather
    Alfredo Layne = Win over Wilfredo Gomez, thats why i mention him.
    Greg Haugen
    Freddie Pendleton
    Policarpo Diaz
    Jorge Paez
    Harold Brazier
    Rafael Pineda
    James McGirt x2
    Julio Cesar Vasquez
    Gary Jacobs
    Wilfredo Rivera x2

    Including 4 world titles a 4 different weightclasses. Also including 9 title defenses at Lightweight, and im including his loss over Jose Luis Ramirez, because he won that. That was a BS decision.

    And 8 title defenses at Welterweight and im including his victory over Julio Cesar Chavez because he won that too. Or how about being P4P number 1 for a few years ? now do you believe he shouldn't be rated above those 3 fighters ?

    Unless i read your comment wrong ? because im in shock you'd say that personally.
    Last edited by ICB; 02-05-2009 at 02:40 PM.

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