Breaking News - Calzaghe Retires

[denilson200]

Now that J.Calzaghe has retired. The question now arises as to where do we place him ? Too many fighters are to scared of losing, thinking that as long as they have that '0' on their record then that by itself makes them great. In a sense J.Calzaghe is unlucky. He never got the chance to face N.Benn or M.Watson at their peak. But to me the most telling fight where I base my judgement on J.Calzaghe was his 1st world title fight with C.Eubank. Yes C.Eubank was still only 31 years old BUT he had been in some BRUTAL-BRUTAL wars with likes of M.Watson twice, N.Benn twice was defeated by S.Collins twice. So although C.Eubank was still a serious fighter he was NOT the fighter he once was. Yet and even J.Calzaghe has admitted this, C.Eubank gave him the hardest fight of his life.

So logically one must wonder what a peak 24/25 year old C.Eubank would have done without the wars N.Benn, M.Watson and S.Collins in his body. We would quite rightly assume that he would have defeated J.Calzaghe. So you could also say that J.Calzaghe is lucky in that he never fought a peak R.Jones (Who still managed to knock him down) or that he never fought a peak B.Hopkins (Who still managed knock him down and run him to a split decision) not to mention the likes of J.Toney or G.McClellan. To me had any these fighters been around today at their PEAKS then J.Calzaghe would not retire with his '0' intact of that there is no question. He should have fought C.Dawson or C.Froch, but fair play too him. He is a great fighter today but I'm not so sure he would have been yesterday.

[Fenster]

Now that J.Calzaghe has retired. The question now arises as to where do we place him ? Too many fighters are to scared of losing, thinking that as long as they have that '0' on their record then that by itself makes them great. In a sense J.Calzaghe is unlucky. He never got the chance to face N.Benn or M.Watson at their peak. But to me the most telling fight where I base my judgement on J.Calzaghe was his 1st world title fight with C.Eubank. Yes C.Eubank was still only 31 years old BUT he had been in some BRUTAL-BRUTAL wars with likes of M.Watson twice, N.Benn twice was defeated by S.Collins twice. So although C.Eubank was still a serious fighter he was NOT the fighter he once was. Yet and even J.Calzaghe has admitted this, C.Eubank gave him the hardest fight of his life.

So logically one must wonder what a peak 24/25 year old C.Eubank would have done without the wars N.Benn, M.Watson and S.Collins in his body. We would quite rightly assume that he would have defeated J.Calzaghe. So you could also say that J.Calzaghe is lucky in that he never fought a peak R.Jones (Who still managed to knock him down) or that he never fought a peak B.Hopkins (Who still managed knock him down and run him to a split decision) not to mention the likes of J.Toney or G.McClellan. To me had any these fighters been around today at their PEAKS then J.Calzaghe would not retire with his '0' intact of that there is no question. He should have fought C.Dawson or C.Froch, but fair play too him. He is a great fighter today but I'm not so sure he would have been yesterday.

Eubank had two brutal wars with Carl Thompson at cruiserweight too - AFTER facing Calzaghe. It was Calzaghe's first fight in world class.. he had never been past eight rounds before. Was that the very best version of Calzaghe?

Hopkins had the "best performance of my career" against Pavlik. This was AFTER Calzaghe had beaten him. Hopkins age is clearly not a factor.

You can make excuses till the cows come home but the fact is Calzaghe beat the lot

[superheavyrhun]

Eubank had two brutal wars with Carl Thompson at cruiserweight too - AFTER facing Calzaghe. It was Calzaghe's first fight in world class.. he had never been past eight rounds before. Was that the very best version of Calzaghe?

Hopkins had the "best performance of my career" against Pavlik. This was AFTER Calzaghe had beaten him.

You can make excuses till the cows come home but the fact is Calzaghe beat the lot

I was thinking the same kind of thing, and worrying it might be quite a lengthy reply, and the darts was about to start, so I think I'll just applaud your response.

[Fenster]

Eubank had two brutal wars with Carl Thompson at cruiserweight too - AFTER facing Calzaghe. It was Calzaghe's first fight in world class.. he had never been past eight rounds before. Was that the very best version of Calzaghe?

Hopkins had the "best performance of my career" against Pavlik. This was AFTER Calzaghe had beaten him.

You can make excuses till the cows come home but the fact is Calzaghe beat the lot

I was thinking the same kind of thing, and worrying it might be quite a lengthy reply, and the darts was about to start, so I think I'll just applaud your response.

Disappointingly one-sided beating by Taylor. Especially considering I would have won my accumulator had Wade not missed two darts for the match earlier