Can you name a Cherry Picker?

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Hector Camacho. He fought the likes of Leonard and Duran when they were well past their best.

But he did fight a prime Oscar, Trinidad, Haugen, and Paz.

As well as Edwin Rosario and Julio Cesar Chavez. Camacho was a lot of things. Ducker or Cherry Picker wasn't one of them

Damn Straight! Here's a mmore complete list of big names Camacho faced.

Jerry Strickland
Rafael Limon
Jose Luis Ramirez
Edwin Rosario
Cornelius Boza Edwards
Howard Davis, Jr
Ray Mancini
Vinny Pazienza
Greg Haugen ( 1-1 )
Julio Cesar Chavez - L
Felix Trinidad - L
Roberto Duran
Ray Leonard
Oscar De La Hoya - L

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But he did fight a prime Oscar, Trinidad, Haugen, and Paz.

As well as Edwin Rosario and Julio Cesar Chavez. Camacho was a lot of things. Ducker or Cherry Picker wasn't one of them

Damn Straight! Here's a mmore complete list of big names Camacho faced.

Jerry Strickland
Rafael Limon
Jose Luis Ramirez
Edwin Rosario
Cornelius Boza Edwards
Howard Davis, Jr
Ray Mancini
Vinny Pazienza
Greg Haugen ( 1-1 )
Julio Cesar Chavez - L
Felix Trinidad - L
Roberto Duran
Ray Leonard
Oscar De La Hoya - L

You cant fight any bigger names than that....but I have to ask...Jerry Strickland?!

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As well as Edwin Rosario and Julio Cesar Chavez. Camacho was a lot of things. Ducker or Cherry Picker wasn't one of them

Damn Straight! Here's a mmore complete list of big names Camacho faced.

Jerry Strickland
Rafael Limon
Jose Luis Ramirez
Edwin Rosario
Cornelius Boza Edwards
Howard Davis, Jr
Ray Mancini
Vinny Pazienza
Greg Haugen ( 1-1 )
Julio Cesar Chavez - L
Felix Trinidad - L
Roberto Duran
Ray Leonard
Oscar De La Hoya - L

You cant fight any bigger names than that....but I have to ask...Jerry Strickland?!

heh heh heh. glad you noticed my little joke.

But hey, wait a minute, weren't you the guy who not long ago called him a solid, solid fighter?

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The part-time fighter De La Hoya gotta be the no.1 cherry picker.

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The part-time fighter De La Hoya gotta be the no.1 cherry picker.

I cant see how Oscar is a cherry picker he has one of the best resumes in boxing even though he lost most of his big fights.

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Floyd Mayweather after moving to 140 biggest cherry picker going.

Sven Ottke

Now i have seen Jermaine Taylor and Ricky Hatton as cherry pickers?? are you for fucking real

Taylor has fought Hopkins twice Winky Wright and Kelly Pavlik twice and the second time after getting ktfo!!!

Hatton?? Yes his early carrer was a bit patchy but blame good old Franky boy. Since he became champ by "cherry picking" p4p number 3 Kosta and taking a big pay cut he has fought only the best, Mayweather p4p the best and probably best of the past 20 years in the usa. Mallinaggi and Castillo both number 1 contenders to his 140 crown and now the p4p number 1, yes sure looks like Hatton has decided to stay home and fight bums for the rest of his career.

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Floyd Mayweather after moving to 140 biggest cherry picker going.

Despite being a fan of his, I was going to call him out as well for cherry picking from 140 and beyond (in some fights). Problem is, when you're p4p number 1 you can cherry pick and still make your resume look good. E.G Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya.

Jermaine Taylor was not a cherry picker, although he spoke like one after his fights. - 'I'm going where the money's at'

Ricky Hatton was up until his split with Frank Warren.

Joe Calzaghe all the way up until his split with Frank Warren AND until the present day.

Eubank was - Despite me being an ignorant child when he was boxing and believing that he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Didn't know about Jones, Toney etc.

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Floyd Mayweather after moving to 140 biggest cherry picker going.

Despite being a fan of his, I was going to call him out as well for cherry picking from 140 and beyond (in some fights). Problem is, when you're p4p number 1 you can cherry pick and still make your resume look good. E.G Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya.

Jermaine Taylor was not a cherry picker, although he spoke like one after his fights. - 'I'm going where the money's at'

Ricky Hatton was up until his split with Frank Warren.

Joe Calzaghe all the way up until his split with Frank Warren AND until the present day.

Eubank was - Despite me being an ignorant child when he was boxing and believing that he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Didn't know about Jones, Toney etc.

Sure Mayweather has had some easy fights, but I would not have considered DLH at 154, and Ricky Hatton, and Zab Judah, and probably not Gatti either for that matter, as cherry picking.

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Floyd Mayweather after moving to 140 biggest cherry picker going.

Despite being a fan of his, I was going to call him out as well for cherry picking from 140 and beyond (in some fights). Problem is, when you're p4p number 1 you can cherry pick and still make your resume look good. E.G Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya.

Jermaine Taylor was not a cherry picker, although he spoke like one after his fights. - 'I'm going where the money's at'

Ricky Hatton was up until his split with Frank Warren.

Joe Calzaghe all the way up until his split with Frank Warren AND until the present day.

Eubank was - Despite me being an ignorant child when he was boxing and believing that he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Didn't know about Jones, Toney etc.

Sure Mayweather has had some easy fights, but I would not have considered DLH at 154, and Ricky Hatton, and Zab Judah, and probably not Gatti either for that matter, as cherry picking.

Well apart from Dela Hoya which i give him full credit, Judah He just got beat by Baldomir who Floyd then fights and who is the worst champion at 147, he fights Hatton at 147 Hatton is not a 147 fighter he fights at 140.

He fights Gatti but doesnt fight Kosta,Hatton or Cotto at 140.

At 147 he fights Baldomir and doesnt fight fighters like Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Williams.

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Floyd Mayweather after moving to 140 biggest cherry picker going.

Sven Ottke

Now i have seen Jermaine Taylor and Ricky Hatton as cherry pickers?? are you for fucking real

Taylor has fought Hopkins twice Winky Wright and Kelly Pavlik twice and the second time after getting ktfo!!!

Hatton?? Yes his early carrer was a bit patchy but blame good old Franky boy. Since he became champ by "cherry picking" p4p number 3 Kosta and taking a big pay cut he has fought only the best, Mayweather p4p the best and probably best of the past 20 years in the usa. Mallinaggi and Castillo both number 1 contenders to his 140 crown and now the p4p number 1, yes sure looks like Hatton has decided to stay home and fight bums for the rest of his career.

It depends how you define cherry picker. Guys like Ottke/Erdei and Joe pre Lacy could have had better names on their resumes, and would fit the criteria of your last sentence, however they didn't get any credit for doing that and rightly so.

Cherry picking is when a fighter has influence on who they fight due to their high standing with fans/writers/broadcasters yet choose a path of lesser resistance. PBF after going to 140 fits that bill, and perhaps ODLH of the last 5 years. However ODLH in his prime is also a good example of someon who isn't a cherry picker, it's taking the tough fights (against somewhat unknown quantities to the mainstream) such as quartey when you really didn't have to.

IMO Hatton can be accused of some cherry picking, Castillo was never no.1 for the undisputed 140 crown, and Paulie's claim to fame is taking a beating from a weight drained Cotto. Yet these are the two fights that 'earned' him shots at the so called p4p champs. Cherry picking is avoiding the high risk/low reward fights, Ricky didn't have much to lose against Floyd and everything to gain (which also applies to Pac now) since it can be claimed he only lost to the very best.

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Floyd Mayweather after moving to 140 biggest cherry picker going.

Sven Ottke

Now i have seen Jermaine Taylor and Ricky Hatton as cherry pickers?? are you for fucking real

Taylor has fought Hopkins twice Winky Wright and Kelly Pavlik twice and the second time after getting ktfo!!!

Hatton?? Yes his early carrer was a bit patchy but blame good old Franky boy. Since he became champ by "cherry picking" p4p number 3 Kosta and taking a big pay cut he has fought only the best, Mayweather p4p the best and probably best of the past 20 years in the usa. Mallinaggi and Castillo both number 1 contenders to his 140 crown and now the p4p number 1, yes sure looks like Hatton has decided to stay home and fight bums for the rest of his career.

It depends how you define cherry picker. Guys like Ottke/Erdei and Joe pre Lacy could have had better names on their resumes, and would fit the criteria of your last sentence, however they didn't get any credit for doing that and rightly so.

Cherry picking is when a fighter has influence on who they fight due to their high standing with fans/writers/broadcasters yet choose a path of lesser resistance. PBF after going to 140 fits that bill, and perhaps ODLH of the last 5 years. However ODLH in his prime is also a good example of someon who isn't a cherry picker, it's taking the tough fights (against somewhat unknown quantities to the mainstream) such as quartey when you really didn't have to.

IMO Hatton can be accused of some cherry picking, Castillo was never no.1 for the undisputed 140 crown, and Paulie's claim to fame is taking a beating from a weight drained Cotto. Yet these are the two fights that 'earned' him shots at the so called p4p champs. Cherry picking is avoiding the high risk/low reward fights, Ricky didn't have much to lose against Floyd and everything to gain (which also applies to Pac now) since it can be claimed he only lost to the very best.

That's a very acceptable definition to me. Good stuff.

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Floyd Mayweather after moving to 140 biggest cherry picker going.

Sven Ottke

Now i have seen Jermaine Taylor and Ricky Hatton as cherry pickers?? are you for fucking real

Taylor has fought Hopkins twice Winky Wright and Kelly Pavlik twice and the second time after getting ktfo!!!

Hatton?? Yes his early carrer was a bit patchy but blame good old Franky boy. Since he became champ by "cherry picking" p4p number 3 Kosta and taking a big pay cut he has fought only the best, Mayweather p4p the best and probably best of the past 20 years in the usa. Mallinaggi and Castillo both number 1 contenders to his 140 crown and now the p4p number 1, yes sure looks like Hatton has decided to stay home and fight bums for the rest of his career.

It depends how you define cherry picker. Guys like Ottke/Erdei and Joe pre Lacy could have had better names on their resumes, and would fit the criteria of your last sentence, however they didn't get any credit for doing that and rightly so.

Cherry picking is when a fighter has influence on who they fight due to their high standing with fans/writers/broadcasters yet choose a path of lesser resistance. PBF after going to 140 fits that bill, and perhaps ODLH of the last 5 years. However ODLH in his prime is also a good example of someon who isn't a cherry picker, it's taking the tough fights (against somewhat unknown quantities to the mainstream) such as quartey when you really didn't have to.

IMO Hatton can be accused of some cherry picking, Castillo was never no.1 for the undisputed 140 crown, and Paulie's claim to fame is taking a beating from a weight drained Cotto. Yet these are the two fights that 'earned' him shots at the so called p4p champs. Cherry picking is avoiding the high risk/low reward fights, Ricky didn't have much to lose against Floyd and everything to gain (which also applies to Pac now) since it can be claimed he only lost to the very best.

So a fighter can have Tszyu, Mayweather and Pac on his resume and still be accused of cherry picking? Just because he didn't have much to lose? The exact opposite of that would be to fight fighters who are well beneath your level (giving you everything to lose) - so would this exact opposite make you the opposite of a cherry picker? It makes no sense.

Since he beat Tszyu which high risk low reward fight would you have liked to have seen him be in? Junior Witter? That's the only one i can think of.

There isn't anybody out there much different to Malignaggi, Urango, Castillo, Maussa, Lazcano. You can throw other names at me like Torres, Bradley, etc.. but we all know they are all of a very similar standard.

So what would you're reaction be if he fought them guys and kept away from Mayweather and Pac? He's ducking the best?

Collazo's also a strange fight to take if you are cherry picking...especially at 147.

I'm struggling to see who he could have fought without been accused of ducking or cherry picking. Those guys i've metioned are the very best at 140 - sad but true. Most would agree that he would wipe the floor with the ones he hasn't already fought. So that only leaves Pac really....which by your calculation makes him a cherry picker because he has nothing to lose by fighting the p4p number 1. I'm astonished.

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Hatton - Collazo: yeah I'd call that a path of low resistance in the Welterweight division. And if Mayweather is such a huge cherry picker at welterweight, then fighting Mayweather doesn't exactly make you a superstar of courage now does it?

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Floyd Mayweather after moving to 140 biggest cherry picker going.

Sven Ottke

Now i have seen Jermaine Taylor and Ricky Hatton as cherry pickers?? are you for fucking real

Taylor has fought Hopkins twice Winky Wright and Kelly Pavlik twice and the second time after getting ktfo!!!

Hatton?? Yes his early carrer was a bit patchy but blame good old Franky boy. Since he became champ by "cherry picking" p4p number 3 Kosta and taking a big pay cut he has fought only the best, Mayweather p4p the best and probably best of the past 20 years in the usa. Mallinaggi and Castillo both number 1 contenders to his 140 crown and now the p4p number 1, yes sure looks like Hatton has decided to stay home and fight bums for the rest of his career.

It depends how you define cherry picker. Guys like Ottke/Erdei and Joe pre Lacy could have had better names on their resumes, and would fit the criteria of your last sentence, however they didn't get any credit for doing that and rightly so.

Cherry picking is when a fighter has influence on who they fight due to their high standing with fans/writers/broadcasters yet choose a path of lesser resistance. PBF after going to 140 fits that bill, and perhaps ODLH of the last 5 years. However ODLH in his prime is also a good example of someon who isn't a cherry picker, it's taking the tough fights (against somewhat unknown quantities to the mainstream) such as quartey when you really didn't have to.

IMO Hatton can be accused of some cherry picking, Castillo was never no.1 for the undisputed 140 crown, and Paulie's claim to fame is taking a beating from a weight drained Cotto. Yet these are the two fights that 'earned' him shots at the so called p4p champs. Cherry picking is avoiding the high risk/low reward fights, Ricky didn't have much to lose against Floyd and everything to gain (which also applies to Pac now) since it can be claimed he only lost to the very best.

So a fighter can have Tszyu, Mayweather and Pac on his resume and still be accused of cherry picking? Just because he didn't have much to lose? The exact opposite of that would be to fight fighters who are well beneath your level (giving you everything to lose) - so would this exact opposite make you the opposite of a cherry picker? It makes no sense.

Since he beat Tszyu which high risk low reward fight would you have liked to have seen him be in? Junior Witter? That's the only one i can think of.

There isn't anybody out there much different to Malignaggi, Urango, Castillo, Maussa, Lazcano. You can throw other names at me like Torres, Bradley, etc.. but we all know they are all of a very similar standard.

So what would you're reaction be if he fought them guys and kept away from Mayweather and Pac? He's ducking the best?

Collazo's also a strange fight to take if you are cherry picking...especially at 147.

I'm struggling to see who he could have fought without been accused of ducking or cherry picking. Those guys i've metioned are the very best at 140 - sad but true. Most would agree that he would wipe the floor with the ones he hasn't already fought. So that only leaves Pac really....which by your calculation makes him a cherry picker because he has nothing to lose by fighting the p4p number 1. I'm astonished.

You make fair arguments, Hatton is by no means the worst cherry picker, I was using him to illustrate what I thought the term 'cherry picker' meant in contrast to the ambitionless stay at home guys. The term cherry picking is picking the very best juicy high reward fights (which the likes of Erdei/Ottke never reach) while taking the path of least resistence to do it.

It's how he earned the Floyd fight which makes me believe that Ricky can be accused of cherry picking to some degree. He challenged for the Welter crown after defeating a Lightweight at Light Welter, rather than consolidating his win against another welter - I would say that qualifies as taking the path of least resistence, lesser than at least half a dozen options that were at welter at the time.

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Floyd Mayweather after moving to 140 biggest cherry picker going.

Sven Ottke

Now i have seen Jermaine Taylor and Ricky Hatton as cherry pickers?? are you for fucking real

Taylor has fought Hopkins twice Winky Wright and Kelly Pavlik twice and the second time after getting ktfo!!!

Hatton?? Yes his early carrer was a bit patchy but blame good old Franky boy. Since he became champ by "cherry picking" p4p number 3 Kosta and taking a big pay cut he has fought only the best, Mayweather p4p the best and probably best of the past 20 years in the usa. Mallinaggi and Castillo both number 1 contenders to his 140 crown and now the p4p number 1, yes sure looks like Hatton has decided to stay home and fight bums for the rest of his career.

It depends how you define cherry picker. Guys like Ottke/Erdei and Joe pre Lacy could have had better names on their resumes, and would fit the criteria of your last sentence, however they didn't get any credit for doing that and rightly so.

Cherry picking is when a fighter has influence on who they fight due to their high standing with fans/writers/broadcasters yet choose a path of lesser resistance. PBF after going to 140 fits that bill, and perhaps ODLH of the last 5 years. However ODLH in his prime is also a good example of someon who isn't a cherry picker, it's taking the tough fights (against somewhat unknown quantities to the mainstream) such as quartey when you really didn't have to.

IMO Hatton can be accused of some cherry picking, Castillo was never no.1 for the undisputed 140 crown, and Paulie's claim to fame is taking a beating from a weight drained Cotto. Yet these are the two fights that 'earned' him shots at the so called p4p champs. Cherry picking is avoiding the high risk/low reward fights, Ricky didn't have much to lose against Floyd and everything to gain (which also applies to Pac now) since it can be claimed he only lost to the very best.

I dont think you can call Castillo a cherry pick? I mean the guy was ranked number 1 by the ring at the time of the fight the same ranking as Paulie was when he fought Hatton, i mean whoelse could Hatton have fought at the time of the Castillo fight? Only one i can think of is Witter and i think its fair to say HBO would rather see a Castillo( been on HBO and Showtime numerous occasions) than Witter.

The only fighter i can think of Hatton should of fought is Cotto at 140, you cant really call Hatton a cherry picker since he arrived at world championship level imo.