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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY View Post
    I keep hearing all this negative stuff about Calzhage and I'm just stunned. The guy is the most complete package of our era.

    Tell me where you guys guys have found a better package of Speed, Heart, Ring Smarts, Adjustments, Chin, Conditioning, Skill, Dedication and his fights are clean. No need to cheat when you're this good i guess. (Hopkins)
    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Not until hes unbeaten as a champ for 12 years and still beating the top boys when hes 36 and unfortunately for Floyd thats not going to happen now, Joe has no comparisons

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY View Post
    I keep hearing all this negative stuff about Calzhage and I'm just stunned. The guy is the most complete package of our era.

    Tell me where you guys guys have found a better package of Speed, Heart, Ring Smarts, Adjustments, Chin, Conditioning, Skill, Dedication and his fights are clean. No need to cheat when you're this good i guess. (Hopkins)
    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Not until hes unbeaten as a champ for 12 years and still beating the top boys when hes 36 and unfortunately for Floyd thats not going to happen now, Joe has no comparisons
    Floyd has the better resume, and more career accomplishments at 30 than Calzaghe has at 36... Hope that helped

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    .....this argument over joe will never end and it's partially his own fault. First for spending too much of his career not fighting in the u.s. (then crying about people in the U.S. not liking him) and when he does fighting two past thier prime old men which might have been impressive but years ago. I for one think joe is a great fighter and don't necessarily like or dislike the guy but walk around my office and ask who he is and most here after all he's done still don't know who he is till you point our specific fights like "the guy who fought jones last or the guy who fought b-hop etc...." Then on the way out he acts as if he's boxing and we're lucky to have the sport even continue without him, I'd be satisfied if i were him, he's not american and he got the respect of the people who matter most his home country, most of the boxing media and his friends and family. Boxing fans will be split on the guy but the overall love from the general public he wants he will never get, no use letting dawson whoop on him for really no reason. On the grand scale of things and just in my opinion mayweather was a much better fighter in the ring and more known outside of it but just like floyd good riddence (however you spell it) there are tons of great fights to be made and floyd isn't going to loose and joe aint gonna fight anyone who is any real threat to him anymore anyways both should find something else to do and retire on top instead of trying to convince every last person on the planet how good they are cause they will never be able to convince as many people as they'd like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY View Post
    I keep hearing all this negative stuff about Calzhage and I'm just stunned. The guy is the most complete package of our era.

    Tell me where you guys guys have found a better package of Speed, Heart, Ring Smarts, Adjustments, Chin, Conditioning, Skill, Dedication and his fights are clean. No need to cheat when you're this good i guess. (Hopkins)
    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Not until hes unbeaten as a champ for 12 years and still beating the top boys when hes 36 and unfortunately for Floyd thats not going to happen now, Joe has no comparisons
    Uhh please Floyd Mayweather Jr makes Joe Calzaghe's resume look like a joke, he's also won 5 titles in 5 weightclasses which only a handful of fighters have done. He's also been P4P number 1 for a few years, Floyd Mayweather Jr could fight until he's 40 and still be effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
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    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Not until hes unbeaten as a champ for 12 years and still beating the top boys when hes 36 and unfortunately for Floyd thats not going to happen now, Joe has no comparisons
    Uhh please Floyd Mayweather Jr makes Joe Calzaghe's resume look like a joke, he's also won 5 titles in 5 weightclasses which only a handful of fighters have done. He's also been P4P number 1 for a few years, Floyd Mayweather Jr could fight until he's 40 and still be effective.
    I agree with u there. Actually floyd could fight til hes like 50 the way he picks his opponents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post

    Not until hes unbeaten as a champ for 12 years and still beating the top boys when hes 36 and unfortunately for Floyd thats not going to happen now, Joe has no comparisons
    Uhh please Floyd Mayweather Jr makes Joe Calzaghe's resume look like a joke, he's also won 5 titles in 5 weightclasses which only a handful of fighters have done. He's also been P4P number 1 for a few years, Floyd Mayweather Jr could fight until he's 40 and still be effective.
    I agree with u there. Actually floyd could fight til hes like 50 the way he picks his opponents.
    Get the fuck out of here seriously Joe Calzaghe's opposition at Super Middleweight, is nothing compared to Floyd Mayweather's resume. Joe Calzaghe fought the likes of a shot Roy Jones, Peter Manfredo, Tocker Pudwill, Kabary Salem, Mario Veit 2, Mger Mkrtchian, Miguel Angel Jiminez, Will McIntyre, Branco Sobot, and your talking about Floyd Mayweather Jr picking opponents PLEASE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post

    Not until hes unbeaten as a champ for 12 years and still beating the top boys when hes 36 and unfortunately for Floyd thats not going to happen now, Joe has no comparisons
    Uhh please Floyd Mayweather Jr makes Joe Calzaghe's resume look like a joke, he's also won 5 titles in 5 weightclasses which only a handful of fighters have done. He's also been P4P number 1 for a few years, Floyd Mayweather Jr could fight until he's 40 and still be effective.
    I agree with u there. Actually floyd could fight til hes like 50 the way he picks his opponents.
    "won 5 titles in 5 weightclasses"

    (So what! It doesn't mean that Floyd had more accomplishments than Joe or that he faced better fighters than Joe)

    I don't beleive Mayweather Jr could fight past 35 and be any kind of challenge. Even Floyd knows he's done and even admits his body can't take it anymore. First, he doesn't have the will, Second he doesn't have right body frame. (to skinny) He's already slowed down to the point he gets hit even though his is considered in his prime. Lastly, he's retired and is not going to fight anymore. Show me the date of his next fight, else talk about the man in the past tense not the present. Floyd' was a great fighter at super featherweight. A good fighter at Jr Welterweight/Welterweight. His last few fights were based on the most earnings with the least amount of risk. And that would be true for most any fighter in the position he was in.

    "He's also been P4P number 1 for a few years"
    Take a look at the p4p rankings and tell me where Floyd is ranked.

    You can compare both fighters records/resumes and come up with facts that show they were great fighters. You can also look at both fighters careers and come up with facts that depict them as 'cherry pickers' but it is all subjective and pointless. The truth is there is no way to compare the greatness of fighters unless they have fought the same fighters. With these two it is not possible. So all anybody can really do is argue about who they think is greater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY View Post
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    Uhh please Floyd Mayweather Jr makes Joe Calzaghe's resume look like a joke, he's also won 5 titles in 5 weightclasses which only a handful of fighters have done. He's also been P4P number 1 for a few years, Floyd Mayweather Jr could fight until he's 40 and still be effective.
    I agree with u there. Actually floyd could fight til hes like 50 the way he picks his opponents.
    "won 5 titles in 5 weightclasses"

    (So what! It doesn't mean that Floyd had more accomplishments than Joe or that he faced better fighters than Joe)

    I don't beleive Mayweather Jr could fight past 35 and be any kind of challenge. Even Floyd knows he's done and even admits his body can't take it anymore. First, he doesn't have the will, Second he doesn't have right body frame. (to skinny) He's already slowed down to the point he gets hit even though his is considered in his prime. Lastly, he's retired and is not going to fight anymore. Show me the date of his next fight, else talk about the man in the past tense not the present. Floyd' was a great fighter at super featherweight. A good fighter at Jr Welterweight/Welterweight. His last few fights were based on the most earnings with the least amount of risk. And that would be true for most any fighter in the position he was in.

    "He's also been P4P number 1 for a few years"
    Take a look at the p4p rankings and tell me where Floyd is ranked.

    You can compare both fighters records/resumes and come up with facts that show they were great fighters. You can also look at both fighters careers and come up with facts that depict them as 'cherry pickers' but it is all subjective and pointless. The truth is there is no way to compare the greatness of fighters unless they have fought the same fighters. With these two it is not possible. So all anybody can really do is argue about who they think is greater.
    To me the 5 weight thing is very relevant... Lets see Joe go up to heavyweight and fight at the highest level....

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    Uhh please Floyd Mayweather Jr makes Joe Calzaghe's resume look like a joke, he's also won 5 titles in 5 weightclasses which only a handful of fighters have done. He's also been P4P number 1 for a few years, Floyd Mayweather Jr could fight until he's 40 and still be effective.
    I agree with u there. Actually floyd could fight til hes like 50 the way he picks his opponents.
    "won 5 titles in 5 weightclasses"

    (So what! It doesn't mean that Floyd had more accomplishments than Joe or that he faced better fighters than Joe)

    I don't beleive Mayweather Jr could fight past 35 and be any kind of challenge. Even Floyd knows he's done and even admits his body can't take it anymore. First, he doesn't have the will, Second he doesn't have right body frame. (to skinny) He's already slowed down to the point he gets hit even though his is considered in his prime. Lastly, he's retired and is not going to fight anymore. Show me the date of his next fight, else talk about the man in the past tense not the present. Floyd' was a great fighter at super featherweight. A good fighter at Jr Welterweight/Welterweight. His last few fights were based on the most earnings with the least amount of risk. And that would be true for most any fighter in the position he was in.

    "He's also been P4P number 1 for a few years"
    Take a look at the p4p rankings and tell me where Floyd is ranked.

    You can compare both fighters records/resumes and come up with facts that show they were great fighters. You can also look at both fighters careers and come up with facts that depict them as 'cherry pickers' but it is all subjective and pointless. The truth is there is no way to compare the greatness of fighters unless they have fought the same fighters. With these two it is not possible. So all anybody can really do is argue about who they think is greater.
    Yea so what that Floyd Mayweather has only won 5 world titles in 5 weightclasses.

    When only a handful of fighters of done it but yea so what, i mean thats hardly an achievement even though a dozen fighters in boxing history have done it.

    And yes it does mean he has accomplished more than Joe Calzaghe. And yes he has beaten better fighters than Joe Calzaghe just look at the list of opponents, i listed i think its pretty obvious.

    You don't believe Floyd Mayweather could fight past 35 for what reason ? he's just as savy as Bernard Hopkins. He is the best all round fighter in boxing today, and what the hell has his body frame got to do with it ?

    Floyd Mayweather keeps himself in shape all year round, he is one of the best conditioned athletes in the world today. And how has Floyd Mayweather got hit more cleanly ? i hardly see him take a flush punch against two very good fighters in ODLH, Ricky Hatton.

    Lastly no its obvious Floyd Mayweather has beat the better opposition, if he didn't have the better overall career he wouldn't be rated higher by Ring Magazine, the fans, and in the all time P4P rankings where experts rank them. And just by using common sense and not being biased its obvious he is a greater fighter with the better career.

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    Winning titles in different weight classes needs to be put into perspective.

    If you're 5'8 and naturally 150lb you have far more divisions to challenge than a man 6'0, 185lb... or 5'2, 130lb... or 6'3, 220lb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Winning titles in different weight classes needs to be put into perspective.

    If you're 5'8 and naturally 150lb you have far more divisions to challenge than a man 6'0, 185lb... or 5'2, 130lb... or 6'3, 220lb
    RJJ is a similiar size to Joe and didnt seem to have a problem winning titles in a number of weith classes.
    He won 4 and skipped Cruiser, which i have no doubt he could have won a title in also....

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