he joins Marciano as the only champ to retire undefeated (ok and Lopez - but he drew ) so end of argument. He will always have his haters - but what do those people expect him to do now ??

He fought everyone worth fighting - ok it took a while and I got a bit sick of him a few years ago when he wouldn't leave Wales I admit.

Theres nothing to prove by fighting Dawson and a Hopkins rematch would be plain dulll.

It's a real shame Joe came along a little bit too late to be part of the Benn Eubank Collins era - else we would have had our own four kings era to speak of

Happy retirement Joe