
Originally Posted by
eagle
Joe is better cos Steward gushed over him? Steward also said Andy Lee would beat Pavlik this year!
Lee is Stewards own fighter, he has to say that, whereas he has no vested interest in Joe, he was just awestruck at the talent on display in front of him.
To be called a fighting machine by a man who has trained Hearns, Moorer, Holyfield, Oscar and every other named fighter that has tried getting Manny to rescue their career is high praise.
When you look at Floyds career, itr is littered with names but only Two where faced while undefeated, One was draining himself to get down a weight and the other was light at the higher weight
Both Joes undefeated opponents were rising stars, big names, highly touted and favoured to beat Joe, they were established in that weight and strong in it and both were soundly beaten while Joe was well in to his mid Thirties, Hopkins has done very well beating Pavlik but even Pavlik wasnt in his own weight, still a good result that proves what Joe did to him, even now merits a lot of praise and dont forget it would have been a fresher, harder hitting Calzaghe that Bernard would have faced 5 hyears ago, had he not chickened out of that match

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