A Fallen Warrior - Gerald McClellan

[amat]

All of you in here are ridiculous for talking shit on thsi guy for something you have no idea about.

First of all, what's terrible to you isn't terrible to others. I think a lot of this stuff is so overblown. First of all, pit bulls fight that is what pitbulls do it is their nature and if it wasn't primal to them.

I don't even know if I believe the stories of him feeding his dogs other dogs. That is something animal rights activist put out there a lot and a lot of times it's just not true. People speaking without an understanding for the sport. If that's true then that's a shame because it's well documented that that has nothing to do with making a better dog and it is probably detrimental to the dog. The best dog in a dog fight isn't the dog that kills the other one fastest because they aren't fights to the death. They are fights until one decides it doesn't want to fight anymore.

How the hell can you blame an athlete for getting into dogfighting and call him a piece of shit? McClellan literally fought to the death almost or right to the brink of it. How hard is it to see what he got out of dogfighting? He was a living dogfighter, how can you say he's a piece of shit for dogfighting? That's unbelievable how some of you have the gall to be so judgementa.

[DMan37]

For the record: None of the dog fighting stories involving McClellan have ever been confirmed. In other words, no one has stepped forward and given their account of how it went down with Gerald involved. And although I do believe McClellan was involved in pit fighting and I do not condone that activity. As a human being I cannot find it in my heart to somehow relate that activity with his tragic fall from grace via permanent injury.

To those of you that believe Karma is involved here: Be careful what you wish. Anyone who seeks wrong in a situation can find it. In this situation, once Gerald became a vegetable it became a moot point. NO ONE DESERVES to suffer in the way he is for any act committed by human hands in my opinion.

If in fact he did commit a heinous act(s) with dogs then he deserved to be dealt with in a court of law. To hope or believe he is paying via karma is sick and twisted in my opinion. When I posted this pieice I did so knowledgeable of McClellan's involvement with dogs. I purposely left it out because frankly it has nothing to do with him today.

Do I think the man should be honored as a human being for his accomplishments? No.
Do I think the man should be still criticized now 14 years after he fought nearly to death? No.

[Fenster]

For the record: None of the dog fighting stories involving McClellan have ever been confirmed. In other words, no one has stepped forward and given their account of how it went down with Gerald involved.

Those stories come from McClellan's former coach Stan Johnson and his cousin Donnie Penelton

[X]

Okay, so he wasn't a very nice man ...... most professional athletes (especially those from very poor backgrounds) are not. That's partially what makes them such tough competitors.

I was there at the Benn/McClellan fight. A hell of a war.

There is fair degree of revionism going on though, people have since said that benn only won by cheating, by fouling or by having the referee in his pocket. Bullshit.

McClellan was a decent fighter, who could bang a bit in the early rounds. He was not going to be the second coming of Marvin Hagler .... he lost his knockout power after the fifth round generally, his defense wasn't great and he always was open to being hit himself. Exciting, yes ..... great, no.

[DMan37]

Okay, so he wasn't a very nice man ...... most professional athletes (especially those from very poor backgrounds) are not. That's partially what makes them such tough competitors.

I was there at the Benn/McClellan fight. A hell of a war.

There is fair degree of revionism going on though, people have since said that benn only won by cheating, by fouling or by having the referee in his pocket. Bullshit.

McClellan was a decent fighter, who could bang a bit in the early rounds. He was not going to be the second coming of Marvin Hagler .... he lost his knockout power after the fifth round generally, his defense wasn't great and he always was open to being hit himself. Exciting, yes ..... great, no.

31 Wins
29 Knockouts
20 - 1st Round knockouts

Just the above alone proved he was a great knockout artist. He had it all in the ring. I think the only thing that did not occur was for him to have a chance to fight more guys. Ask Julian Jackson if he can fight?

As far as the comparison to Hagler. He was more of a Hearns than a Hagler.

[Spicoli]

Okay, so he wasn't a very nice man ...... most professional athletes (especially those from very poor backgrounds) are not. That's partially what makes them such tough competitors.

I was there at the Benn/McClellan fight. A hell of a war.

There is fair degree of revionism going on though, people have since said that benn only won by cheating, by fouling or by having the referee in his pocket. Bullshit.

McClellan was a decent fighter, who could bang a bit in the early rounds. He was not going to be the second coming of Marvin Hagler .... he lost his knockout power after the fifth round generally, his defense wasn't great and he always was open to being hit himself. Exciting, yes ..... great, no.

Good call with 'cheating' and revisionist stuff.That shite boggles my mind.He was back in within the extended count in the first round.Alot was made of rabbit punching but we're not sipping tea in there.McClellan was leaning in quite a bit to contribute.

McClellan was hittable,it was just weathering his explosive offence to get there.I dont think we'll ever know how great he may or may not have been.I think alot is made about fighters outside of the ring,when your in the public eye,you subject yourself to it.I see it as a slippery slope.I'd venture to say that if you dug long and deep enough,we could find very unsavory and questionable happenings with many past & present.

[paddy448]

look its a trajedy what happened to him. but if the stories of the dogs are true then i lose respect for any human being no matter what fucking state there in.i aint gonna turned a blind eye coz they a fucking vegtable

[DMan37]

look its a trajedy what happened to him. but if the stories of the dogs are true then i lose respect for any human being no matter what fucking state there in.i aint gonna turned a blind eye coz they a fucking vegtable

Nor am I "turning a blind eye." It boils down to human compassion.

I have it. Some don't.

[DMan37]

For the record: None of the dog fighting stories involving McClellan have ever been confirmed. In other words, no one has stepped forward and given their account of how it went down with Gerald involved.

Those stories come from McClellan's former coach Stan Johnson and his cousin Donnie Penelton

Dog fighting was then and is now a crime in the USA. In 1860 most states in the US made it illegal and in 1976 it became outlawed in the United States. No one ever came forward and made an official statement to have him charged with the crime. Many people make allegations through the media everyday that are not true.

I'm not defending Gerald. Just stating the fact that if he committed a crime perhaps someone should have charged him with it.

[holmcall]

Donnie Penelton -- ugh!

[Trainer Monkey]

All of you in here are ridiculous for talking shit on thsi guy for something you have no idea about.

First of all, what's terrible to you isn't terrible to others. I think a lot of this stuff is so overblown. First of all, pit bulls fight that is what pitbulls do it is their nature and if it wasn't primal to them.

I don't even know if I believe the stories of him feeding his dogs other dogs. That is something animal rights activist put out there a lot and a lot of times it's just not true. People speaking without an understanding for the sport. If that's true then that's a shame because it's well documented that that has nothing to do with making a better dog and it is probably detrimental to the dog. The best dog in a dog fight isn't the dog that kills the other one fastest because they aren't fights to the death. They are fights until one decides it doesn't want to fight anymore.

How the hell can you blame an athlete for getting into dogfighting and call him a piece of shit? McClellan literally fought to the death almost or right to the brink of it. How hard is it to see what he got out of dogfighting? He was a living dogfighter, how can you say he's a piece of shit for dogfighting? That's unbelievable how some of you have the gall to be so judgementa.

No they dont
Pit Bulls used to be the symbol of this country,my Pit bulls nature is to hog half the bed and be afraid of my cats,oh yeah and to be a serviceable pillow

[ElTerribleMorales]

All of you in here are ridiculous for talking shit on thsi guy for something you have no idea about.

First of all, what's terrible to you isn't terrible to others. I think a lot of this stuff is so overblown. First of all, pit bulls fight that is what pitbulls do it is their nature and if it wasn't primal to them.

I don't even know if I believe the stories of him feeding his dogs other dogs. That is something animal rights activist put out there a lot and a lot of times it's just not true. People speaking without an understanding for the sport. If that's true then that's a shame because it's well documented that that has nothing to do with making a better dog and it is probably detrimental to the dog. The best dog in a dog fight isn't the dog that kills the other one fastest because they aren't fights to the death. They are fights until one decides it doesn't want to fight anymore.

How the hell can you blame an athlete for getting into dogfighting and call him a piece of shit? McClellan literally fought to the death almost or right to the brink of it. How hard is it to see what he got out of dogfighting? He was a living dogfighter, how can you say he's a piece of shit for dogfighting? That's unbelievable how some of you have the gall to be so judgementa.

dogs are like people in the fact that, they come out they way you raise them, if you treat the dog like shit, and train it to kill then that's why it'll do it, why? to please you, it's master, dogfighting is not a natural or positive thing you sick shit, they're animals, they fight not because they like it, but more out of feeling threatened, territory, or fear, it's fucked up and his sick ass just like Vick deserve everything that happens to them, people back in Mayan civilization all the way to today in indian tribes in the amazon practice sacrifices so hell why does murder count as a crime?

[DMan37]

All of you in here are ridiculous for talking shit on thsi guy for something you have no idea about.

First of all, what's terrible to you isn't terrible to others. I think a lot of this stuff is so overblown. First of all, pit bulls fight that is what pitbulls do it is their nature and if it wasn't primal to them.

I don't even know if I believe the stories of him feeding his dogs other dogs. That is something animal rights activist put out there a lot and a lot of times it's just not true. People speaking without an understanding for the sport. If that's true then that's a shame because it's well documented that that has nothing to do with making a better dog and it is probably detrimental to the dog. The best dog in a dog fight isn't the dog that kills the other one fastest because they aren't fights to the death. They are fights until one decides it doesn't want to fight anymore.

How the hell can you blame an athlete for getting into dogfighting and call him a piece of shit? McClellan literally fought to the death almost or right to the brink of it. How hard is it to see what he got out of dogfighting? He was a living dogfighter, how can you say he's a piece of shit for dogfighting? That's unbelievable how some of you have the gall to be so judgementa.

dogs are like people in the fact that, they come out they way you raise them, if you treat the dog like shit, and train it to kill then that's why it'll do it, why? to please you, it's master, dogfighting is not a natural or positive thing you sick shit, they're animals, they fight not because they like it, but more out of feeling threatened, territory, or fear, it's fucked up and his sick ass just like Vick deserve everything that happens to them, people back in Mayan civilization all the way to today in indian tribes in the amazon practice sacrifices so hell why does murder count as a crime?

I relate, understand and am just generally with any thinking that denounces dog fighting and all that it represents. However, I think "dog fighting" and "unfortunate human" stories are separate and must remain that.

I am of the opinion that Gerald McClellan is not a vegetable because of karma. He is a fallen warrior that paid the ultimate price for his willingness to expose himself to danger in the ring.