would calzaghe of ever been beaten??

[RP33]

46-0, every major fighter beaten, 2 divisions completely cleaned up and unified - is it fair to say that had joe calzaghe decided to stay around for a couple of years he would of gone to possibly eclipse marcianos unbeaten record??

He just strikes me as the kind of fighter that is so good he just doesnt have to turn up and fight his A game to beat a guy and apart from perhaps dawson catching him with something special there really was nothing of any threat that would of suggested joe would be in danger of not getting to 50-52 straight wins.

Remember hearing the chant at the hatton-mayweather weigh in aimed at bernard hopkins of "You`ll never beat calzaghe, you`ll never beat calzaghe" and it actually now seems pretty apt to be honest.

top 5 p4p all time greatest champions?? a good possibility
greatest ever british sportsmen?? id probably have him ahead of the likes of moore, charlton, botham etc!

Calzaghe lost twice. To Reid and Hopkins. Both fights at least warranted a rematch. Hatton is going to get jealous the way your sucking Calzaghe's dikk.

ok violent, just to repeat a post smashup mentioned in another post, if hopkins thought he was winning why was he trying to get calzaghe disqualified or get points taken from calzaghe, basically cheating, pls answer this question

That's an easy question to answer.. If you have ever played any sport before in your life, you shouldn't even have to ask this question. Why would Hopkins EVER take his foot off the gas and not try to win the fight any way possible? If you're winning 10-0 in a baseball game, is it wrong to score more runs?

ESPECIALLY in boxing, you NEVER know with the judges. You have to do anything you can do win. You MAY ALMOST had a case if B-Hop wasn't known for his antics. But he always does those types of things. If you remember, Kelly Pavlik almost low blowed BHOP in their fight because he was getting desperate.. BHOPS antics in Joe's fight were not out of desperation, that's simply just Hopkins.

[Drago]

Calzaghe lost twice. To Reid and Hopkins. Both fights at least warranted a rematch. Hatton is going to get jealous the way your sucking Calzaghe's dikk.

ok violent, just to repeat a post smashup mentioned in another post, if hopkins thought he was winning why was he trying to get calzaghe disqualified or get points taken from calzaghe, basically cheating, pls answer this question

That's an easy question to answer.. If you have ever played any sport before in your life, you shouldn't even have to ask this question. Why would Hopkins EVER take his foot off the gas and not try to win the fight any way possible? If you're winning 10-0 in a baseball game, is it wrong to score more runs?

ESPECIALLY in boxing, you NEVER know with the judges. You have to do anything you can do win. You MAY ALMOST had a case if B-Hop wasn't known for his antics. But he always does those types of things. If you remember, Kelly Pavlik almost low blowed BHOP in their fight because he was getting desperate.. BHOPS antics in Joe's fight were not out of desperation, that's simply just Hopkins.

yeah i played sport but i dont tend to pretend sumone hit me in the balls i weak ass shit like that, hopkins knew he was losing & was trying everthing he could to get outta a fight he knew he couldnt win.

[Kel]

Calzaghe lost twice. To Reid and Hopkins. Both fights at least warranted a rematch. Hatton is going to get jealous the way your sucking Calzaghe's dikk.

ok violent, just to repeat a post smashup mentioned in another post, if hopkins thought he was winning why was he trying to get calzaghe disqualified or get points taken from calzaghe, basically cheating, pls answer this question

That's an easy question to answer.. If you have ever played any sport before in your life, you shouldn't even have to ask this question. Why would Hopkins EVER take his foot off the gas and not try to win the fight any way possible? If you're winning 10-0 in a baseball game, is it wrong to score more runs?

ESPECIALLY in boxing, you NEVER know with the judges. You have to do anything you can do win. You MAY ALMOST had a case if B-Hop wasn't known for his antics. But he always does those types of things. If you remember, Kelly Pavlik almost low blowed BHOP in their fight because he was getting desperate.. BHOPS antics in Joe's fight were not out of desperation, that's simply just Hopkins.

Give me a break, he could not take the pace and he wanted a breather. He has never faked a low blow before.

Bloody hell!

[RP33]

ok violent, just to repeat a post smashup mentioned in another post, if hopkins thought he was winning why was he trying to get calzaghe disqualified or get points taken from calzaghe, basically cheating, pls answer this question

That's an easy question to answer.. If you have ever played any sport before in your life, you shouldn't even have to ask this question. Why would Hopkins EVER take his foot off the gas and not try to win the fight any way possible? If you're winning 10-0 in a baseball game, is it wrong to score more runs?

ESPECIALLY in boxing, you NEVER know with the judges. You have to do anything you can do win. You MAY ALMOST had a case if B-Hop wasn't known for his antics. But he always does those types of things. If you remember, Kelly Pavlik almost low blowed BHOP in their fight because he was getting desperate.. BHOPS antics in Joe's fight were not out of desperation, that's simply just Hopkins.

yeah i played sport but i dont tend to pretend sumone hit me in the balls i weak ass shit like that, hopkins knew he was losing & was trying everthing he could to get outta a fight he knew he couldnt win.

ok violent, just to repeat a post smashup mentioned in another post, if hopkins thought he was winning why was he trying to get calzaghe disqualified or get points taken from calzaghe, basically cheating, pls answer this question

That's an easy question to answer.. If you have ever played any sport before in your life, you shouldn't even have to ask this question. Why would Hopkins EVER take his foot off the gas and not try to win the fight any way possible? If you're winning 10-0 in a baseball game, is it wrong to score more runs?

ESPECIALLY in boxing, you NEVER know with the judges. You have to do anything you can do win. You MAY ALMOST had a case if B-Hop wasn't known for his antics. But he always does those types of things. If you remember, Kelly Pavlik almost low blowed BHOP in their fight because he was getting desperate.. BHOPS antics in Joe's fight were not out of desperation, that's simply just Hopkins.

Give me a break, he could not take the pace and he wanted a breather. He has never faked a low blow before.

Bloody hell!

He was trying to do everything he could to win the fight.. I think thats the point.

I've flopped in a basketball game to take a charge and get the call. I've flopped dramatically when someone almost tripped me in hockey to get a power play. It's all part of the game.

I know that it wasn't a low blow, it was obvious, but Hopkins sold it to the ref and took the breather that the ref gave him. It may be a punk move, but it's smart as hell if you ask me. If JC did that, i'd say the same thing, and i dislike JC. You're just saying it because it's Hopkins. But there are a very small crop of neutral minded people here, so it's understandable.

[Violent Demise]

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ok violent, just to repeat a post smashup mentioned in another post, if hopkins thought he was winning why was he trying to get calzaghe disqualified or get points taken from calzaghe, basically cheating, pls answer this question

Hopkins was winning. Calzaghe hit him low. Hopkins went down from the pain. If you ever fought before you would know how much a low blow hurts.

ok violent, just to repeat a post smashup mentioned in another post, if hopkins thought he was winning why was he trying to get calzaghe disqualified or get points taken from calzaghe, basically cheating, pls answer this question

That's an easy question to answer.. If you have ever played any sport before in your life, you shouldn't even have to ask this question. Why would Hopkins EVER take his foot off the gas and not try to win the fight any way possible? If you're winning 10-0 in a baseball game, is it wrong to score more runs?

ESPECIALLY in boxing, you NEVER know with the judges. You have to do anything you can do win. You MAY ALMOST had a case if B-Hop wasn't known for his antics. But he always does those types of things. If you remember, Kelly Pavlik almost low blowed BHOP in their fight because he was getting desperate.. BHOPS antics in Joe's fight were not out of desperation, that's simply just Hopkins.

Give me a break, he could not take the pace and he wanted a breather. He has never faked a low blow before.

Bloody hell!

Exactly! He's never faked a low blow before. Cuz he ain't that type of fighter. Hopkins said he got hit low. Than he got hit low.

[RozzySean]

46-0, every major fighter beaten, 2 divisions completely cleaned up and unified - is it fair to say that had joe calzaghe decided to stay around for a couple of years he would of gone to possibly eclipse marcianos unbeaten record??

He just strikes me as the kind of fighter that is so good he just doesnt have to turn up and fight his A game to beat a guy and apart from perhaps dawson catching him with something special there really was nothing of any threat that would of suggested joe would be in danger of not getting to 50-52 straight wins.

Remember hearing the chant at the hatton-mayweather weigh in aimed at bernard hopkins of "You`ll never beat calzaghe, you`ll never beat calzaghe" and it actually now seems pretty apt to be honest.

top 5 p4p all time greatest champions?? a good possibility
greatest ever british sportsmen?? id probably have him ahead of the likes of moore, charlton, botham etc!

Is it possible to "clean out a division" in two fights? Last I heard, the only people fought at LHW was Hopkins (which he nearly lost) and Jones (a shadow of his former self). He decided that he didn't want to bother trying to clean out LHW. He won the lineal championship, but he didn't clean out squat.

[yvonne]

I think Calzaghe could have matched or even beat the great Marciano's record if he continued,but like someone stated on here apart from the Dawson fight the other fights would have just been made up really would'nt there.For me Calzaghe could have got to 50-0.He has great arsenal at his natural will.He has relently desire and stamima and a great great work rate,great hand speed and a great chin"The best chin i've seen in all my years of watching boxing!"Yeah he could have beat the record,but like Calzaghe said himself a few months back that he does'nt aim to beat Marciano's as Marciano is and will still be a legend and he want to respect that!Nice words for Calzaghe


I miss Calzaghe already.Im watching his fights on dvd recently and he's such a class act to watch,very skillfull!Great technician of the ring!!!!

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think Calzaghe could have matched or even beat the great Marciano's record if he continued,but like someone stated on here apart from the Dawson fight the other fights would have just been made up really would'nt there.For me Calzaghe could have got to 50-0.He has great arsenal at his natural will.He has relently desire and stamima and a great great work rate,great hand speed and a great chin"The best chin i've seen in all my years of watching boxing!"Yeah he could have beat the record,but like Calzaghe said himself a few months back that he does'nt aim to beat Marciano's as Marciano is and will still be a legend and he want to respect that!Nice words for Calzaghe


I miss Calzaghe already.Im watching his fights on dvd recently and he's such a class act to watch,very skillfull!Great technician of the ring!!!!

yea the way he clowns his opponants and grinded up agains B-Hops ass reaaaaaaaaaaaal classy

[purtyboy]

Way to stroke his " Ego ". I guess im the only one that thinks Calzaghes chin sucks. I agree he was hurt in the Kessler fight, and we all remember an old Roy Jones almost TKO him in the first round. He lost to Hopkins in my opinion(who also drop him). It's insane that you would put him in your top 5 all-time. But then again your from Englad :P. Calzaghe is not a class act btw, if he was he would rematch Hopkins, and would of not disrespected Roy the way he did. If it was prime Jones i wear calzaghe would not make it past the 5th.

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Oh I forgot to mention im not a big fan of the slaps. You talk about how all hopkins wanted to do was hold and moan. What about Calzaghe he did not want to fight etheir he was slapping the whole fight. Hopkins counter him and won the fight with more effective punching.....

[SaltyBacon]

yes and thats why he retired

[ross]

Right, for all the people who are saying that Joe got hurt could you post up the whole round of the fights that he got hurt in and we will see how hurt he was

If no one does then thats because they know he wasnt hurt

[ukansodoff]

Who knows whether or not he would of been beaten. I think everybody agrees there were fights that could of happened that didnt and a couple of fights that happened too late to actually properly count.

But my problem with trying to picture some of these fights happening is Calzaghes gift of being able to work out alternative game plans while in the middle of a fight.

Theres also other things id like to take into account.

1 his chin, hes no different than anybody else in being able to be knocked down with a flash shot, but the way he recovers in a matter of seconds needs to be respected, by the time hes took his count its like he was never hit and it also seems to make him better for the rest of the round. This needs to be taken into consideration.

2. His power, I believe it to be a little underestemated, taking in comments by previous opponants who were calling him a slapper before the fight then noting their suprise at his power after the fights shows me hes stronger puncher than he gets credit for, And even more so before his hands and wrists gave up on him he was seen as a capable knockout boxer.

3. His boxing skills, unparelleled as far as im concered. he scores enough to out box anybody out there now, in the early 2000's and in the late 90's.

So really what would it take to beat him? a boxing genius with huge punch rates, massive knockout power, immense stamina and an iron chin of thier own.

Who fits that bill? No 1 that comes to mind for me. A prime Jones jr is the closest I get.

[Mr140]

Mayweather not even ranked that high how can Calzaghe be he is a good champion i say in the top 30 not much higher then that maybe he might be in some peoples book but i think in the general view of things he while be put somewhere in the top 30 which is not that bad at all tell you teh truth i dont think he got the fights when they would of counted most.