would calzaghe of ever been beaten??

[Taeth]

I honestly think Calzaghe would have either run into a huge puncher because his chin isn't super amazing, its really good, but Kessler hurt him several times.

OR

Chad Dawson would have beat him. Chad has that same will to win, is faster, bigger, and goes to the body unlike anybody else who fought Calzaghe. I think he is the first guy who could match Calzaghe in every department, I think even though it was extremely close he stayed in there with a very tough, very high output Glen Johnson who walks through anything.

Which brings me to another guy I've always felt would beat Calazaghe, and thats Glen Johnson, I think he has a way better chin, he would back Calzaghe up and break his will because nobody else has ever matched Joe's stamina and Glen would, I see JOe winning this more often than not, but I think Glen could find a way if he was having a hot night.

[ross]

I honestly think Calzaghe would have either run into a huge puncher because his chin isn't super amazing, its really good, but Kessler hurt him several times.

Show us a clip where Joe is stumbling, reeling, holding for dear life or putting the earmuffs on against Kessler, he was never hurt, sure he felt some power but not hurt.

[Drago]

if calzaghe wanted he could get to 60 fights undefeated! just that no one out there

chad dawson aint proven shit, & no one in britain knows who the hell he is
hopkins - pointless already beaten him & hopkins didnt wanna fight he just wanted to moan & cheat in first meeting
RJJ already beat him sensless
Glen Johnson oh please
kelly pavlik ha ha ha
jermain taylor - calzaghe would deal with him easier than any of the above
carl froch - maybe to shut froch mouth up

so no he would never of been beaten, he's got balls, he's aggressive, and he never quits

[Taeth]

if calzaghe wanted he could get to 60 fights undefeated! just that no one out there

chad dawson aint proven shit, & no one in britain knows who the hell he is
hopkins - pointless already beaten him & hopkins didnt wanna fight he just wanted to moan & cheat in first meeting
RJJ already beat him sensless
Glen Johnson oh please
kelly pavlik ha ha ha
jermain taylor - calzaghe would deal with him easier than any of the above
carl froch - maybe to shut froch mouth up

so no he would never of been beaten, he's got balls, he's aggressive, and he never quits

If people don't know who Chad Dawson is then how do they know how good he is? How is beating Adamek, Tarver, and Harding soundly not proving yourself? Its more than Calzaghe had done up until he fought Hopkins.

[The Rela]

No way is Calzaghe up there with the greatest of all time.

[jack2121]

[quote=Taeth;685271]

if calzaghe wanted he could get to 60 fights undefeated! just that no one out there

chad dawson aint proven shit, & no one in britain knows who the hell he is
hopkins - pointless already beaten him & hopkins didnt wanna fight he just wanted to moan & cheat in first meeting
RJJ already beat him sensless
Glen Johnson oh please
kelly pavlik ha ha ha
jermain taylor - calzaghe would deal with him easier than any of the above
carl froch - maybe to shut froch mouth up

so no he would never of been beaten, he's got balls, he's aggressive, and he never quits

If people don't know who Chad Dawson is then how do they know how good he is? How is beating Adamek, Tarver, and Harding soundly not proving yourself? Its more than Calzaghe had done up until he fought Hopkins.[/quo

Fair enough Chad is a very good fighter and beating Adamek is good but tarver not such a great acheivment lets face it tarver looks like hes slipping, he hasnt put on a show stopping performance since probly rjj. Calzag has no reason to fight on, chad imo would have no chance at all in dealing with calzaghe's awkwardness, experience and never mind the crazy number of punches he throws (hopkins would have more chance). I do agree in between eubank and lacy calzaghe wasted alot of time fighting bums. (this will effect his all time great status) But dont forget calzaghe staying out of america so long wud hav had alot to do frank warren.
Even though i am a huge calzaghe i hav to be honest and say he wouldnt hav beatn a prime rjj and i think frank warren knew this at the time.

[C.J.Rock]

if calzaghe wanted he could get to 60 fights undefeated! just that no one out there

chad dawson aint proven shit, & no one in britain knows who the hell he is
hopkins - pointless already beaten him & hopkins didnt wanna fight he just wanted to moan & cheat in first meeting
RJJ already beat him sensless
Glen Johnson oh please
kelly pavlik ha ha ha
jermain taylor - calzaghe would deal with him easier than any of the above
carl froch - maybe to shut froch mouth up

so no he would never of been beaten, he's got balls, he's aggressive, and he never quits

Hopkins ,Darius M to name just two who'd beat him. Calzaghe avoided too many good fighters BTW your sig of the Winston Churchill speech suits Joe in a way When he made it Winston, The Royal family & The crown jewels were packed and ready to hight tail it to Canada should the germans invade. All mouth little substance

[Taeth]

I honestly think Calzaghe would have either run into a huge puncher because his chin isn't super amazing, its really good, but Kessler hurt him several times.

Show us a clip where Joe is stumbling, reeling, holding for dear life or putting the earmuffs on against Kessler, he was never hurt, sure he felt some power but not hurt.

Just off the top of my head, I think it was the fourth round Kessler lands a right uppercut that hurts Joe.

You don't have to be stumbling around or reeling to be hurt, but he definitely lost his balance point at the moment, and it happened after that as well a few times.

I'm not showing you a clip go watch the fight again you lazy bastard.

[ross]

Just off the top of my head, I think it was the fourth round Kessler lands a right uppercut that hurts Joe.

You don't have to be stumbling around or reeling to be hurt, but he definitely lost his balance point at the moment, and it happened after that as well a few times.

I'm not showing you a clip go watch the fight again you lazy bastard.

Well, prove me wrong because until you do, I know im right, Joe didnt faulter at all during that fight, he did take some big shots, nice clean shots as well and just shrugged them off to keep on working

Unless you can post a clip of him being "hurt" in the Kessler fight, shut up

[Taeth]

Just off the top of my head, I think it was the fourth round Kessler lands a right uppercut that hurts Joe.

You don't have to be stumbling around or reeling to be hurt, but he definitely lost his balance point at the moment, and it happened after that as well a few times.

I'm not showing you a clip go watch the fight again you lazy bastard.

Well, prove me wrong because until you do, I know im right, Joe didnt faulter at all during that fight, he did take some big shots, nice clean shots as well and just shrugged them off to keep on working

Unless you can post a clip of him being "hurt" in the Kessler fight, shut up

You probably don't even own the fight, yet your talking trash, go to the file board, download the fight and watch yourself. If you can't do that then go fuck yourself. Calzaghe was hurt a few times in that fight.

[ross]

No he wasnt, I watched it live dopey, Calzaghe was never hurt, Kessler was, he got a nice respite after the judge pulled Joe off him, Joe had just cracked him to the ribs

[J_C]

He would have lost eventually because his pace/workrate was his main weapon that won him a lot of fights and that inevitably declines with age.

Lose 20% of your commitment and he might not be as super fit stamina wise as he usually was and could find himself on the wrong side of a decision. But I dont think a top form Calzaghe loses to anyone currently around no, he just racks up too many points.

I think he quit at the right time. I think the fact he got put on his ass in the 1st round of his last 2 fights was a wake up call. Maybe showed a bit of complacency on his part. Maybe wasnt absolutely 100% focused on fighting. Maybe his skills/speed were starting to decline.

And fwiw I believe only those with the heaviest Hopkins/Reid tinted glasses could say he lost those fights. Hopkins draw at best and Reid took too many rounds off to get a points decision.