Kirkland perhaps you would care to explain...

[El Kabong]

You keep praising Jimmy damn Carter and what did he accomplish Stagflation, the misery index, foreign relations impotence, and the malaise speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IlRVy7oZ58


....whatever happened to "voting for HOPE over fear"?


My article had facts and data in it too but noooo we must not look at that

[Kirkland Laing]

You keep praising Jimmy damn Carter and what did he accomplish Stagflation, the misery index, foreign relations impotence, and the malaise speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IlRVy7oZ58


....whatever happened to "voting for HOPE over fear"?


My article had facts and data in it too but noooo we must not look at that

Carter inherited double digit inflation and unemployment from Ford who had been too weak to take the tough decisions necessary to deal with them. Carter did it at the cost of his reelection. Obama faces a similar decision now and you'd better hope he's as strong as Caret was.

Exactly what are these facts you speak of? The whole point of your link was to claim that the US has the highest levels of corporation tax in the world, but that's bs*, so where are these facts you speak of?


*According to tge GAO, CBO etc. the US has the lowest rate in the developed world :

Today, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a study on taxes paid by corporations. In what Sen. Byron L. Dorgan (D-ND) mildly called "a shocking indictment of the current tax system," the GAO found that about two-thirds of corporations operating in the US did not pay taxes annually from 1998 to 2005.
Now most corporations in America are start-ups or small, mom and pop operations that have adopted a corporate form to lower their tax rates. And a greater percentage of large corporations do pay some taxes. But in 2005, with corporate profits reaching new heights as a percentage of national income, the GAO found that over one-fourth -- 28% of large corporations paid no taxes. (It defined large corporations as those with assets of at least $250 million dollars or gross receipts of at least $50 million dollars.) They can tell you how to make $50 million dollars and not pay taxes.
Not surprisingly, the income collected from corporations has been declining as a percentage of GDP, with the burden transferred to your income and payroll taxes. According to a study by the Treasury Department, from 2000-2006, an average of 2.2% of GDP was collected in corporate taxes. This compares to an average of 3.4% in other industrial countries. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects that, under current law, corporate revenues will decline to 1.9% of GDP by 2017, the lowest rate in the industrialised world.

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And George W Bush cut corporation taxes twice during his presidency, one of those cuts was $140 billion. And that was when $140 billion was a lot of money. Yet the economy created les than two million jobs between 2000-2008. Clinton raised corporate taxes and created 23 million jobs in his eight years. If cutting corporate taxes creates jobs where's your evidence for it?

[El Kabong]

Well buddy all I can say is that you had better start gathering info on Obama because if he's anything like Carter then he's going to really struggle with the support of the people.

BOBBY JINDAL 2012!!!

[killersheep]

Well buddy all I can say is that you had better start gathering info on Obama because if he's anything like Carter then he's going to really struggle with the support of the people.

BOBBY JINDAL 2012!!!

Do you want Jindal because he wants higher income taxes or because he wants the Patriot Act to be permanent?

[El Kabong]

Well there are a number of reasons, #1 He isn't sure if he wants to take the stimulus bill money....unlike most greedy governors who are chomping at the bit to get "their" money #2 When the Supreme Court said they couldn't put child molesters to death Jindal said ok and signed a bill into law that has castration as a punishment of child molesting #3 He did his job correctly when Hurricane Gustav came through

Bobby Jindal on the Issues

Those are his stances

...I personally would rather he lighten up in some areas (abortion, amendment for defining marraige, drugs) but all in all I like what he has done so far.

I'm not pro-abortion or pro-drugs or pro-gay marraige....but I think the individual states should handle those issues

[Kirkland Laing]

Most Americans want the stimulus bill. It's fairly clear to most folks that with business investment/spending and consumer spending in freefall the only people capable of propping up demand are the government and that's why the stimulus bill is so popular.

Jindal is a grandstanding buffoon who will reject about 2% of the money he's given. He's only doing it to get a few headlines, I think most people can see him for what he is.

I just don't understand why conservatives are so upset about government deficits and spending all of a sudden. Where were you for the last eight years?

[El Kabong]

Most Americans want the stimulus bill. It's fairly clear to most folks that with business investment/spending and consumer spending in freefall the only people capable of propping up demand are the government and that's why the stimulus bill is so popular.

Jindal is a grandstanding buffoon who will reject about 2% of the money he's given. He's only doing it to get a few headlines, I think most people can see him for what he is.

I just don't understand why conservatives are so upset about government deficits and spending all of a sudden. Where were you for the last eight years?

You are just plain wrong on both accounts but you are too fucking stubborn to listen to reason. All I can point to is Jindal's successes. You can go ahead and worship your liberal martyrs like Jimmy Carter....I hope you are happy when the populus wakes up and finds out that Obama is a total fraud.

It took a while for the Republican Congress to spend as much as the Democrats have....they just started out and BANG we're talking billions and TRILLIONS of dollars in single pieces of legistlation and then we have a President who says and I quote "The usual earmarks and pork aren't in this bill" and that is 100% total bullshit and you know it.

[Kirkland Laing]

Most Americans want the stimulus bill. It's fairly clear to most folks that with business investment/spending and consumer spending in freefall the only people capable of propping up demand are the government and that's why the stimulus bill is so popular.

Jindal is a grandstanding buffoon who will reject about 2% of the money he's given. He's only doing it to get a few headlines, I think most people can see him for what he is.

I just don't understand why conservatives are so upset about government deficits and spending all of a sudden. Where were you for the last eight years?

The Infallible One strikes again!

Talking Points Memo | Grandstanding Jindal

Jindal rejects $98 million in stimulus spending - Breaking News from New Orleans - Times-Picayune - NOLA.com