Same day weigh ins will get people killed

[BoomBoom]

I agree, though I do think the weigh in weight and the pre-fight weight should be mandaded to be within 10 pounds, maybe even 8.

[ono]

It may encourage fighters to fight at their natural weights. A guy who is 160lbs would in theory fight a guy who is also 160lbs come fight night. It's unlikely there would be big weight differences between the fighters.

It would discourage fighters from cutting too much weight and encourge fighters to fight at a weight in which they are comfortable. Good plan i say.

I fail to see how they will get people killed. Only an idiot would turn up at a weigh in severley dehydrated and gaunt if he was fighting in only a few hours. He would turn up practically in his fighting condition - minus his pre-fight meal. Great plan.

[Youngblood]

I don't like the idea. I think boxers with their traniers are going to always try to gain an edge, and will always cut to make weight. Lessening the rehydration period I think would cause a lot of fighters to try and do it in the shorter period of time, and put themselves at more risk and be fighting in a more weakened state.

It is good in theory. In that it might force boxers to come in closer to fighting weight, but think it would cause many others to try and manipulate it and end up in harms way.

[ono]

I don't like the idea. I think boxers with their traniers are going to always try to gain an edge, and will always cut to make weight. Lessening the rehydration period I think would cause a lot of fighters to try and do it in the shorter period of time, and put themselves at more risk and be fighting in a more weakened state.

It is good in theory. In that it might force boxers to come in closer to fighting weight, but think it would cause many others to try and manipulate it and end up in harms way.

But if we can see what danger the fighter would be in from using the current procedure of cutting weight for the new rules of making weight, then surely the fighters and trainer can aswell.

It's surely the trainers job and the fighters job to make sure the fighter is comfortable with the weight so they should be held responsible.

Stevie Wonder can see that there will be no advantage to be gained from dehydrating yourself on the day of a fight.

I would imagine trainers would have to take some form of exam where they can show that they have knowledge of the dangers of using the various weight making procedures.

[Youngblood]

I don't like the idea. I think boxers with their traniers are going to always try to gain an edge, and will always cut to make weight. Lessening the rehydration period I think would cause a lot of fighters to try and do it in the shorter period of time, and put themselves at more risk and be fighting in a more weakened state.

It is good in theory. In that it might force boxers to come in closer to fighting weight, but think it would cause many others to try and manipulate it and end up in harms way.

But if we can see what danger the fighter would be in from using the current procedure of cutting weight for the new rules of making weight, then surely the fighters and trainer can aswell.

It's surely the trainers job and the fighters job to make sure the fighter is comfortable with the weight so they should be held responsible.

Stevie Wonder can see that there will be no advantage to be gained from dehydrating yourself on the day of a fight.

I would imagine trainers would have to take some form of exam where they can show that they have knowledge of the dangers of using the various weight making procedures.

Sure they'll know the risk...but it doesn't mean they won't try to exploit it. I mean, c'mon...there is so much on the line between winning a fight and losing in the pros, many I believe would be willing to take the risks. So by allowing a rule to have a more extreme risk associated with it, you are not factoring a neccesary component when rule making imo, that being human nature.

[fan johnny]

If we had the same day weigh-ins, Sure you might see a few fools try to loose ten pounds and even a few will be able to achieve it and come in competitive. But boxing is better off keeping the playing field even because the practice of fighting at a lower weight will fade away. You wont get guys who are obviously two weight classes over fighting down. We often see those that do dominate a weight class. Paul Williams comes to mind. Guys that have matured their bodies will be forced to move up in class sooner because they can't make weight. If same day weigh-ins were already in place, Hatton / Pacquiao might have happened last year And we probably never would have seen a Dream Match. As far as a guy getting killed, at first I might be inclined to think it's dangeriuos because it's many fighters norm, but it's just too hard to do for most fighters. So I have to disagree....

[ono]

I don't like the idea. I think boxers with their traniers are going to always try to gain an edge, and will always cut to make weight. Lessening the rehydration period I think would cause a lot of fighters to try and do it in the shorter period of time, and put themselves at more risk and be fighting in a more weakened state.

It is good in theory. In that it might force boxers to come in closer to fighting weight, but think it would cause many others to try and manipulate it and end up in harms way.

But if we can see what danger the fighter would be in from using the current procedure of cutting weight for the new rules of making weight, then surely the fighters and trainer can aswell.

It's surely the trainers job and the fighters job to make sure the fighter is comfortable with the weight so they should be held responsible.

Stevie Wonder can see that there will be no advantage to be gained from dehydrating yourself on the day of a fight.

I would imagine trainers would have to take some form of exam where they can show that they have knowledge of the dangers of using the various weight making procedures.

Sure they'll know the risk...but it doesn't mean they won't try to exploit it. I mean, c'mon...there is so much on the line between winning a fight and losing in the pros, many I believe would be willing to take the risks. So by allowing a rule to have a more extreme risk associated with it, you are not factoring a neccesary component when rule making imo, that being human nature.

I honestly don't think there is much to exploit though. Given the short time frame you're only going to gain a few lbs and dehydrating and draining yourself on the day of the fight for this debatable advantage is pointless.

Whether or not the fighter agrees is a different matter. It's obvious to me that a fighter would have 'the real edge' by coming at his fighting weight and being nutritionally prepared. Like you say though, it's human nature to explore other ways to gain an advantage - even if those ways are dangerous.

Problem is now, with the current weigh-ins some fighters are dehydrating themselves to a point where 1 day isn't long enough to re-hydrate. You're looking at 2-4 days depending on the degree of dehydration. It could be argued that the fighters are dehydrating to this degree because they feel a 24 hour window is plenty of time to re-fuel and rehydrate...which isn't always the case.

[Youngblood]

But if we can see what danger the fighter would be in from using the current procedure of cutting weight for the new rules of making weight, then surely the fighters and trainer can aswell.

It's surely the trainers job and the fighters job to make sure the fighter is comfortable with the weight so they should be held responsible.

Stevie Wonder can see that there will be no advantage to be gained from dehydrating yourself on the day of a fight.

I would imagine trainers would have to take some form of exam where they can show that they have knowledge of the dangers of using the various weight making procedures.

Sure they'll know the risk...but it doesn't mean they won't try to exploit it. I mean, c'mon...there is so much on the line between winning a fight and losing in the pros, many I believe would be willing to take the risks. So by allowing a rule to have a more extreme risk associated with it, you are not factoring a neccesary component when rule making imo, that being human nature.

I honestly don't think there is much to exploit though. Given the short time frame you're only going to gain a few lbs and dehydrating and draining yourself on the day of the fight for this debatable advantage is pointless.

Whether or not the fighter agrees is a different matter. It's obvious to me that a fighter would have 'the real edge' by coming at his fighting weight and being nutritionally prepared. Like you say though, it's human nature to explore other ways to gain an advantage - even if those ways are dangerous.

Problem is now, with the current weigh-ins some fighters are dehydrating themselves to a point where 1 day isn't long enough to re-hydrate. You're looking at 2-4 days depending on the degree of dehydration. It could be argued that the fighters are dehydrating to this degree because they feel a 24 hour window is plenty of time to re-fuel and rehydrate...which isn't always the case.

I agree. And I think if anything was changed to keep it safer, it should be to lengthen the weigh in/rehydration process, not shorten it.

[CGM]

I agree, though I do think the weigh in weight and the pre-fight weight should be mandaded to be within 10 pounds, maybe even 8.

Why stop there? It seems strange to me. The way it is now you get welterweights fhowing on fight day approaching mi9ddleweight. It makes for uneven fights weightwise. I would rather see a system whereby when a guy steps into the ring as a welterweight, he really is a welterweight. Not sure how they would do that though.

[ono]

I agree, though I do think the weigh in weight and the pre-fight weight should be mandaded to be within 10 pounds, maybe even 8.

Why stop there? It seems strange to me. The way it is now you get welterweights fhowing on fight day approaching mi9ddleweight. It makes for uneven fights weightwise. I would rather see a system whereby when a guy steps into the ring as a welterweight, he really is a welterweight. Not sure how they would do that though.

I agree. Same day weigh ins are the only way.