[quote=Lyle;688066][quote=Kirkland Laing;688046]
Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
GALLUP can't you read?

We pay into something and the early investors get paid off and I'm going to get stuck with el zilcho....it's the fucking definition of a Ponzi scheme.

Video - CNBC.com
If you're not going to provide a source then there's no reason to believe those numbers are correct. Here's even Fox news :

Just over half of Americans — 51 percent — support the economic stimulus and spending plan passed by Congress last week and 40 percent oppose it.
Moreover, 58 percent think legislation was necessary — that's 24 percentage points higher than the 34 percent who think the economy would have improved on its own without government intervention.


FOXNews.com - FOX News Poll: Slim Majority Supports Stimulus - Polls | AP Polls | Gallup Poll | Opinion Polls


Even Fox polls find majority support.


And SS is nor a Ponzi scheme. Like most insurance plans there is no direct connection between the dollar paid in and the benefit paid out, instead what you are buying is coverage, once your actual premium dollar is collected it belongs to the company, or in this case government. While the US government is currently drowning in debt SS is two trillion in credit and won't need any aditional funds until at least 2050 according to the CBO (and almost certainly not even then.)


And a video of a bunch of third-rate traders in a third rate exchange who would all be out of work if the government hadn't bailed their bankrupt firms out complaining about homeowners getting their mortgages renegotiated and the moral hazard of bailing undeserving people out is hilarious.


The stimulus is entirely necessary. Nobody else is spending and if the government doesn't the economy will go into a deflationary death spiral.