Quote Originally Posted by luvfightgame View Post
I voted Joe ruined him. I somewhat agree with Violent.... except I would say a A fighter to a B fighter. He has what it takes to be a top guy, but he was never gonna be an all time great. Good power, chin, work rate. Plenty of flaws.

Overall I think most fans overate every fighter. Continually talking about this mythical skill level that someone else is lacking. Lacy was good in his prime, and he got his prime ended by Joe.
He was never an A fighter man your being way to generous.