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I voted Joe ruined him. I somewhat agree with Violent.... except I would say a A fighter to a B fighter. He has what it takes to be a top guy, but he was never gonna be an all time great. Good power, chin, work rate. Plenty of flaws.

Overall I think most fans overate every fighter. Continually talking about this mythical skill level that someone else is lacking. Lacy was good in his prime, and he got his prime ended by Joe.
He was never an A fighter man your being way to generous.

Well he was an Olympic medalist, a world champ, and he's only lost to Joe C and Jermaine Taylor, both of whom beat Bernard Hopkins.

He was an A fighter fighting in the elite. He was just bottom rung of the A level.

This is what I mean by overrating boxers "skill". Please define A-D levels for me, cause I thought the guys on FNF's are usually C level. Showbox is B level and HBO and Showtime ppv's are A level. The D level's I can usually go see at a local hotel or gymnasium. If Lacy wasn't in the A level, i'm lost.