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    Default Re: Why should steroids be considered not as bad as load wraps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
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    Sounds as though that steroids has been watered down and hard to pin point with the large amount of supplements and enhancers available today.Sadly its become a part of sports culture with a new headline weekly it seems.I think if its ruled out by the commissions and deemed banned,thats what you adhere too.equally the talk of bricks and concrete ?What ever it was,a 'training pad' (?),and as of yet to release contents for clarity,it was a violation.An exercise in symantics....and agendas at times.
    Even 20 years ago the list of Olympic banned substances read like War And Peace,there's alot more since then.
    You could EASILY take something without knowing it
    Thats the slippery slope.Sounds like the commission has its work cut out for itself.Many detractors would say that they missed Violations in previous Tony Fights based on this last incedent with the wrap...does the same hold true for Mosley as many substances are undetectable (?).A judgment of convenience or preference as to what ones willing to except it would seem.
    I take a one oops rule.maybe you took something that came up as a false positive,but after that you should be calling the commission when you want to take cough syrup ,just in case.
    As many times as Tony has been tagged,not only is he using it,he's too sloppy to even use a masking agent.

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    Default Re: Why should steroids be considered not as bad as load wraps?

    Without turning all TM on this.. would you rather fight someone coked off their nut or fight someone with a baseball bat?

    It's a no brainer.
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    Default Re: Why should steroids be considered not as bad as load wraps?

    Both are just as bad in different ways....Steroids make you stronger, faster etc....

    Wraps can make you a fist of Iron.....

    Half dozen of one 6 of the other
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    Default Re: Why should steroids be considered not as bad as load wraps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Without turning all TM on this.. would you rather fight someone coked off their nut or fight someone with a baseball bat?

    It's a no brainer.
    Maybe you should try fihgting somebody coked off their nut. I am doing security as a part time job, and we work the police and a guy who used to be on the riot unit was telling me one time this guy who was 160 pounds, fought evenly with 4 cops all over 200 pounds all using their knightsticks, pepper spray, tazors, and like I said he was holding his own. There isn't a single person who would stand a chance with a baseball bat against that.

    Now steroids aren't the same being coked up, and I am aware of that.

    Also how can people deny the difference steroids make in performance? Like at Michael Johnson, Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, Mark Macguire. Especially the guys in baseball where hand-eye coordination, power, and speed play a factor. Hitting a baseball is suppose to be the toughest thing to do in sports, and look how dramatically. If it can change good hitters into the best hitters in the history of the game, and doubling their stats, it must do amazing things for boxers. Obviously, it would never make Arturo Gatti into Floyd Mayweather, but give it to a good fighter, and it would give them that edge that makes all the difference.

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    Default Re: Why should steroids be considered not as bad as load wraps?

    Well i say loaded wraps because steriods can have different effects on people as for the people saying Tony had bricks in his hands well if he did Dont you think Williams and Clotty would of been busted up i mean starting to question if were going to say he was using warps then why were there faces not torn buy it and also i wish the just tell us what is was because if its not plaster and somthing elese like to have some proof on how much more damage it does then say the human hand like to know.

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    Default Re: Why should steroids be considered not as bad as load wraps?

    I am not leaning into any side but steroids is supposed to be performance enhancement while loaded wraps' purpose is for damage enhancement. As a fight fan I would rather see fighters giving their best performance than inflicting possible fatal damage to somebody. It is indeed unfair to have any significant unjust advantage whatever way it is. But take it this way, what if both fighters have the right to take these performance enhancements? who will benefit? US. FANS. we won't see fighters gassed, unconditioned for a full fight. Unlike loaded wraps, no matter how well-conditioned a fighter is if he's getting hit by foreign objects that conditioning is definetely neutralized. and it is again, us fans who suffer. So, to me as long as these 'steroids' purposes is to 'sustain better cardio strength and not punching power', I'm cool with it.
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    Default Re: Why should steroids be considered not as bad as load wraps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
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    Even 20 years ago the list of Olympic banned substances read like War And Peace,there's alot more since then.
    You could EASILY take something without knowing it
    Thats the slippery slope.Sounds like the commission has its work cut out for itself.Many detractors would say that they missed Violations in previous Tony Fights based on this last incedent with the wrap...does the same hold true for Mosley as many substances are undetectable (?).A judgment of convenience or preference as to what ones willing to except it would seem.
    I take a one oops rule.maybe you took something that came up as a false positive,but after that you should be calling the commission when you want to take cough syrup ,just in case.
    As many times as Tony has been tagged,not only is he using it,he's too sloppy to even use a masking agent.
    Stumped .Do you mean Shane or ....?

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    Default Re: Why should steroids be considered not as bad as load wraps?

    Both are cheating, and neither should be looked upon favorably (although I'm not niave, I know most fighters and athletes use them).

    I think the distinction lies in the fact that while steroids can be used to enhance a fighter physically, "loaded" gloves are bringing a foreign weapon into the ring with you. Even without steroids, the playing field will never be even because there are SO MANY supplements out there now that can mimmick the affects of steroids anyway.

    I see a huge difference in using performance enhancers and loading your gloves. One is cheating, the other is criminal.

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