Why I wish there was a UFC type organization in boxing.

[bradlee180]

First, I am a fan of MMA and Boxing, but Boxing should NEVER be run like the UFC (nor could it ever be).
UFC is just one MMA promotion of many, and they don't allow their fighters to fight with fighters signed to other promotions.
There's a lot of them, some top names listed later.

The UFC boss has to be given credit for taking MMA mainstream, but unfortunately he's used the same business model as Vince McMahon's WWE pro-wrestling business model complete with long-term contracts and non-compete clauses. Basically the fighters are employees of the UFC, and their contracts are ridiculous concerning the inordinate amount of control the UFC has over them.
Could a boxer ever be fired off the program or after leaving the promotion, not be allowed to compete elsewhere for many months because of a non-compete clause. It's unethical and not a legitimate business model for a real sport.

The fighters give up so much, and the UFC pays them peanuts for it.
After fees, taxes, and expenses, Anderson Silva probably takes home only 70 thousand per fight, maybe 80 thousand.
I guarartee the UFC's making a lot more than that off him.
The UFC keeps the lion's share and they divide up the short-end amongst all the fighters.

It's not a legitimate model for any real sport.

When the UFC began, it was viewed somewhat as a carnival circus sideshow attraction. It strived for credibilty as a real sport and seemed to be succeeding, but they recently returned it to its carnival-like beginnings.

Allowing a man with only 3 fights and 18 months experience to compete for the UFC Heavyweight Title was a joke. 2 wins, 1 loss...earned him a shot at the Title.
Who did he beat to earn the shot? Journeyman Heath Herring?
There were experienced Heavyweights with years of experience right there.

The UFC Heavyweight Champ Randy Couture attempted to walk away from the UFC because he disagreed with how it is run. Many top fighters would not sign with them for the same reasons so there's a ton of great matchups that won't happen.

Top talents like:
Josh Barnett
Nick Diaz
Aoki
Joaquin Hansen
Gegard Mousasi
Frank Shamrock
Antonio Silva
Jacare
Cung Le
Arlovski
Jake Shields
Krazy Horse Bennett
Benji Radach
Aleksander Emelianenko
Matt Lindland
Tim Sylvia
Vitor Belfort
Carano
Joey Villasenor
Gilbert Melendez
Renato Sobral
KJ Noons
Sokoudjou
Robbie Lawler
Overeem
Takanori Gomi

^ Quite a list of top talnets who don't fight for the UFC. Some wouldn't sign, some had major problems during their time with the UFC.

The Greatest MMA fighter there's ever been, Fedor, would not sign with them because of these 1-sided slave contracts.

That's a scathing indictment of the UFC.

Boxing is corrupt and dirty, but it could never be run like the UFC anyway, but it should also never even be considered because of how the UFC railroads the fighters and puts the Jesse James to them.

Here at Saddoboxing, everybody already knows the multitudes of problems within boxing, but I think MMA is just as phucked as Boxing.

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[VictorCharlie]

Your list doesn't really tell the story

Diaz/Lawler/Sylvia/Belfort/Arlovski/Sokoudju
All simply ran their course in the UFC or were not performing at the level they once were. Sobral was released for holding a choke to long. Lindland/Barnett/Shamrock have all had long time differences with Dana White. Shields has said multiple times that he would like to come to the UFC. Aleks isn't fighting for anyone b/c of allegedly having hepititis or a visa issue depending on who you ask. I don't think a UFC type system would work for boxing either though. UFC has 12-16 shows a year and they still have a hard time showcasing all of their fighters. With the number of boxers in the world it would be impossible to get all of the fights we wanted

[the_PRODIGY]

Who says the UFC always has great undercards? That's BS. I've watched main events that stunk. and a competitive fight in Boxing is uncomparable to a competitive MMA fight. MMA is so broad that a competitive fight could end up with both fighters barely scratched. On the other hand, a great boxing fight more often than not leaves both boxers bloodied, bruised and a candidate for brain damage. A single fight can decide the future of a boxer, the accumulation of punches just gradually takes it's toll sooner or later. So to sum it up, asking a competitive fight everytime for a boxer is just asking too much. They deserve breaks. You guys ever heard of tune-up fights?

[VictorCharlie]

Who says the UFC always has great undercards? That's BS. I've watched main events that stunk. and a competitive fight in Boxing is uncomparable to a competitive MMA fight. MMA is so broad that a competitive fight could end up with both fighters barely scratched. On the other hand, a great boxing fight more often than not leaves both boxers bloodied, bruised and a candidate for brain damage. A single fight can decide the future of a boxer, the accumulation of punches just gradually takes it's toll sooner or later. So to sum it up, asking a competitive fight everytime for a boxer is just asking too much. They deserve breaks. You guys ever heard of tune-up fights?

You are right in saying that not every UFC card is great but with 10 fights and 5 guaranteed televised bout you are getting more for your money (if you like mma that is) and have a better chance of seeing 1 or more good fights. Most boxing PPVs usually are one or two fights at best.

[Lance Uppercut]

Who says the UFC always has great undercards? That's BS. I've watched main events that stunk. and a competitive fight in Boxing is uncomparable to a competitive MMA fight. MMA is so broad that a competitive fight could end up with both fighters barely scratched. On the other hand, a great boxing fight more often than not leaves both boxers bloodied, bruised and a candidate for brain damage. A single fight can decide the future of a boxer, the accumulation of punches just gradually takes it's toll sooner or later. So to sum it up, asking a competitive fight everytime for a boxer is just asking too much. They deserve breaks. You guys ever heard of tune-up fights?

You are right in saying that not every UFC card is great but with 10 fights and 5 guaranteed televised bout you are getting more for your money (if you like mma that is) and have a better chance of seeing 1 or more good fights. Most boxing PPVs usually are one or two fights at best.

Yeah but the fights are only three rounds long.

[ono]

First, I am a fan of MMA and Boxing, but Boxing should NEVER be run like the UFC (nor could it ever be).
UFC is just one MMA promotion of many, and they don't allow their fighters to fight with fighters signed to other promotions.
There's a lot of them, some top names listed later.

The UFC boss has to be given credit for taking MMA mainstream, but unfortunately he's used the same business model as Vince McMahon's WWE pro-wrestling business model complete with long-term contracts and non-compete clauses. Basically the fighters are employees of the UFC, and their contracts are ridiculous concerning the inordinate amount of control the UFC has over them.
Could a boxer ever be fired off the program or after leaving the promotion, not be allowed to compete elsewhere for many months because of a non-compete clause. It's unethical and not a legitimate business model for a real sport.

The fighters give up so much, and the UFC pays them peanuts for it.
After fees, taxes, and expenses, Anderson Silva probably takes home only 70 thousand per fight, maybe 80 thousand.
I guarartee the UFC's making a lot more than that off him.
The UFC keeps the lion's share and they divide up the short-end amongst all the fighters.

It's not a legitimate model for any real sport.

When the UFC began, it was viewed somewhat as a carnival circus sideshow attraction. It strived for credibilty as a real sport and seemed to be succeeding, but they recently returned it to its carnival-like beginnings.

Allowing a man with only 3 fights and 18 months experience to compete for the UFC Heavyweight Title was a joke. 2 wins, 1 loss...earned him a shot at the Title.
Who did he beat to earn the shot? Journeyman Heath Herring?
There were experienced Heavyweights with years of experience right there.

The UFC Heavyweight Champ Randy Couture attempted to walk away from the UFC because he disagreed with how it is run. Many top fighters would not sign with them for the same reasons so there's a ton of great matchups that won't happen.

Top talents like:
Josh Barnett
Nick Diaz
Aoki
Joaquin Hansen
Gegard Mousasi
Frank Shamrock
Antonio Silva
Jacare
Cung Le
Arlovski
Jake Shields
Krazy Horse Bennett
Benji Radach
Aleksander Emelianenko
Matt Lindland
Tim Sylvia
Vitor Belfort
Carano
Joey Villasenor
Gilbert Melendez
Renato Sobral
KJ Noons
Sokoudjou
Robbie Lawler
Overeem
Takanori Gomi

^ Quite a list of top talnets who don't fight for the UFC. Some wouldn't sign, some had major problems during their time with the UFC.

The Greatest MMA fighter there's ever been, Fedor, would not sign with them because of these 1-sided slave contracts.

That's a scathing indictment of the UFC.

Boxing is corrupt and dirty, but it could never be run like the UFC anyway, but it should also never even be considered because of how the UFC railroads the fighters and puts the Jesse James to them.

Here at Saddoboxing, everybody already knows the multitudes of problems within boxing, but I think MMA is just as phucked as Boxing.

.

The poor bastard. I really feel for him.