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    Default Re: ICB Where did you learn to play chess mate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    This is a pretty good game IMO, though like you say it might not be a really high level setting for the Kasparov computer opponent.

    I think Black has to play ...Qg6 a move sooner and attack White's f-pawn. After you play 21.Qh6 as white it looks like game over, unless I am missing something. The point is that it takes several moves to prove that 21.Qh6 is winning, so if your computer is not at a setting where it looks five or six moves deep, it might not see that the move 19...c5 is a losing move.

    I don't know why black made that move but I believe that even the lowest level of Kasparov thinks at least 10 moves ahead. I was fighting kasparov and I'd like someone with a national/fide master level to assess this game. hehehe. There's a reason for that move.

    are you a national master, CGM? if you are, I'd accept your opinion. I might have been playing a low level unknown GM in chessmater during that time.

    anyway, I'd agree with you at 21.Qh6 i was winning already. I guess the computer could already see by the 18th move that I was on my way to winning the game. I can hardly remember my feeling and what I have been thinking back at this time but vaguely, I can remember my feeling of superiority against the computer.hehehe. most probably a low level GM. Anyway, I can't remember whether I have set it to low level. However, during my college days, I'd usually set it to at least average. I was playing NMs during those times.
    What national masters were you playing Bruce? In real organised chess competitions you mean? If you remember their names I can most likely find their games in my Chessbase dvd which contains over 4.3 million games.

    As for the standard of play in this game its way way way below GM level, I would say about 1200.

    Some moves just make no sense whatsoever. Why would a GM as black play 6.h6 then 9.h5?

    The exchange it premempted with 10.Bxd5 was just wrong as well, why give up your good bishop for a knight that could easily be kicked off with c6 after Na5 for example?

    The idea that it would willing allow for doubled pawns on both the c and f files is dumb as well, black is practically positionally lost by move 12.

    Choosing to castle into an open g file seems as the king is safer on f8 and the rook is better in g8 than the king.

    15.f5 is another weakening move, blacks kingside is already wrecked don't compound the situation by opening lines. The pawn on f6 at least prevents the knight from having an unassailable outpost on g5 on f5 the knight can now permanently jump lodge himself there and nothing can move him.

    The queen h pawn grab on move 18 again just opens the h file and loses by force after R h1, Qg4, Rh3 and doubling rooks on the h file, capturing the undefendable pawn and then mating on the h file with rooks and queen.


    I can tell you that sadly your opponent in this game played around the 70 or 80 elo, maybe 1100 level. It shows no positional understanding at all and the real Kasparov could probably defeat 500 of this program in a simultaneous with a couple seconds of think time for each move.
    Bilbo: I have started playing chess when I was 7. How old were you when you started playing it?

    I respect though your passion for chess but as to questioning whether I was playing against a GM in chessmaster during those time, I can assure you that I was indeed playing against GMs in chessmaster. What you think as weak positions, please try to analyze them again. GMs in chessmaster made those moves. I have been playing games of real grandmasters (chess olympiad results) and at my level, I don't see them as positional mistakes.

    Anyway, I'm past my best and I'm the DLH in chess. hehehe. I could hardly win against an F-level at this time.A friendly game of chess would be nice some time in the future.

    @CGM, if you have the time,please post your comment about my second game.hope to have a game with you at yahoo.
    Last edited by brucelee; 02-23-2009 at 04:11 PM.

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