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    Default Re: cotto wants hatton pac winner

    Cotto vs Hatton/Pacquiao would have Cotto as a favorite IMO. Cotto is a strong welterweight. I think both Hatton and Pacquiao can hold their own against him but if it's at 147, Cotto would beat them both quite handily.

    The only way to make it a fair fight is to have it at a catchweight around 143-145.

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    Nice i would prefer to see cotto hatton as that is a fight ive wanted to see for a looooonnnnggggg time... could be a classic... changed my mind on the winner of that fight soooo many times over the last few years.

    i'm a massive manny pac fan but to be honest hes giving himself a massive unfair disadvantage being in the highter weights IMO.

    chances are ODLH was shot to bits but FFS manny move back down and stop these fuckers taking the piss

    saying all that if pacman wins against hatton or cotto it would be a hell of an achivement

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    Default Re: cotto wants hatton pac winner

    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Nice i would prefer to see cotto hatton as that is a fight ive wanted to see for a looooonnnnggggg time... could be a classic... changed my mind on the winner of that fight soooo many times over the last few years.

    i'm a massive manny pac fan but to be honest hes giving himself a massive unfair disadvantage being in the highter weights IMO.

    chances are ODLH was shot to bits but FFS manny move back down and stop these fuckers taking the piss

    saying all that if pacman wins against hatton or cotto it would be a hell of an achivement
    Pac easily Knocking out Hatton will be a confirmation that Pac is for real. Then Pac will enter as a Favorite against Cotto. Cotto's chinny even at 140. At 147 basically the same with/Without the padding on Margarito.

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    Default Re: cotto wants hatton pac winner

    I think Cotto V Mosley 2 will happen before that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Nice i would prefer to see cotto hatton as that is a fight ive wanted to see for a looooonnnnggggg time... could be a classic... changed my mind on the winner of that fight soooo many times over the last few years.

    i'm a massive manny pac fan but to be honest hes giving himself a massive unfair disadvantage being in the highter weights IMO.

    chances are ODLH was shot to bits but FFS manny move back down and stop these fuckers taking the piss

    saying all that if pacman wins against hatton or cotto it would be a hell of an achivement
    Agreed, he'll need to box in and out all night against Hatton as he's just naturally much smaller, I reckon he can but no way is it going to be easy for him. Cotto is a big step further still in terms of punch power compared to Hatton, I'd be seriously surprided to see Pac withstand flush body shots from Miguel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Nice i would prefer to see cotto hatton as that is a fight ive wanted to see for a looooonnnnggggg time... could be a classic... changed my mind on the winner of that fight soooo many times over the last few years.

    i'm a massive manny pac fan but to be honest hes giving himself a massive unfair disadvantage being in the highter weights IMO.

    chances are ODLH was shot to bits but FFS manny move back down and stop these fuckers taking the piss

    saying all that if pacman wins against hatton or cotto it would be a hell of an achivement
    Agreed, he'll need to box in and out all night against Hatton as he's just naturally much smaller, I reckon he can but no way is it going to be easy for him. Cotto is a big step further still in terms of punch power compared to Hatton, I'd be seriously surprided to see Pac withstand flush body shots from Miguel.
    While Cotto's left hook to the body is bad enough in itself, I think the way he puts his punches together make that body shot hurt even more. If he has you in the corner and he smells blood, he throws a couple shots to the head and while you're guarding upstairs, he sneaks that left hand into the body. Mix the element of surprise plus the fact that he throw that punch perfectly, then down you go...

    (BTW, those shots would put Pac/Hatton in some deep trouble if they land)

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    Default Re: cotto wants hatton pac winner

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Cotto vs Hatton/Pacquiao would have Cotto as a favorite IMO. Cotto is a strong welterweight. I think both Hatton and Pacquiao can hold their own against him but if it's at 147, Cotto would beat them both quite handily.

    The only way to make it a fair fight is to have it at a catchweight around 143-145.
    I don't know if Cotto could make 143-145, he looks pretty drained at the weigh-ins, certainly not as bad as he did at the end of his time at 140, but still looks to be pushing it a bit.
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    Default Re: cotto wants hatton pac winner

    Ohh what a fight!! PAC/Hatton vs. Cotto...

    Regarding PAC vs. Cotto, I already mentioned this on the other thread, PAC's strength (southpaw, stamina, speed) is Cotto's weaknesses...

    Cotto vs. Hatton is a total inside war and I think Cotto has the stronger, more brutal inside arsenal compared to Hatton...
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    Last edited by XaduBoxer; 02-23-2009 at 09:28 PM.

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    I would much rather see Cotto.Williams because it would have that Hagler/Hearns feel to it. Niether fighter backing down until some one gets knocked out. I think Both Hagler and Williams have the tougher chin but then again I don't know because Williams was rocked plenty by Matthysse and then again, he was also able to get past and beat Hands of Plaster Margacheater so it would be a very, very interesting fight. I wont complain about Cotto/Clotey either as that would be a great match up. Clotey is no joke and should never be taken lightly. Very strong contender he is and he does deserve a try at an attempt at unification as he says he wants, regardless of who he has faught or has not faught those Africans are tough as they come and can make anyones night a living hell. But if the money is right and the winner of PAC/Hatton is made, it should be done at a catch weight like 144 to make things a little more even if there is such a thing. Cotto at 140 has a mermalade chin.
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    Personally, I've never liked fights between boxers with such a height difference. It makes for awkward, sometimes boring fights. The Hearns of the 80's was a notable exception, and all his fights were wonderfully exciting. IMO, Williams should go up a couple of divisions to where he's fighting guys his own size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Personally, I've never liked fights between boxers with such a height difference. It makes for awkward, sometimes boring fights. The Hearns of the 80's was a notable exception, and all his fights were wonderfully exciting. IMO, Williams should go up a couple of divisions to where he's fighting guys his own size.
    He is already doing this but no one can count him out of the 147 as he has been able to contend at this weight and at weights above. This makes Williams a unique p4p champion if he can continue to move down where he dont belong. Anyone can move up but moving back down is the freak thing and Williams is a freak at that so far. Ok wait, not any one can move up with out getting chased back down, so far Williams has been doing pretty good at moving up and down and that is special.

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    Default Re: cotto wants hatton pac winner

    What a fight this would be.. if it was against either Hatton or Pac Man. I'm not going to make a prediction yet as it's still early days (this fight would be in November-December I guess, presuming it's the very next one for Ricky or Manny).

    But I think Cotto should focus on his own division rather than wanting to face naturally smaller guys, and he has plenty of competition in his own division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyUK View Post
    What a fight this would be.. if it was against either Hatton or Pac Man. I'm not going to make a prediction yet as it's still early days (this fight would be in November-December I guess, presuming it's the very next one for Ricky or Manny).

    But I think Cotto should focus on his own division rather than wanting to face naturally smaller guys, and he has plenty of competition in his own division.
    Funny... you substitute De La Hoya for Cotto in the above sentence, and you've described the Golden Boy's recent mindset perfectly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Cotto vs Hatton/Pacquiao would have Cotto as a favorite IMO. Cotto is a strong welterweight. I think both Hatton and Pacquiao can hold their own against him but if it's at 147, Cotto would beat them both quite handily.

    The only way to make it a fair fight is to have it at a catchweight around 143-145.
    I don't know if Cotto could make 143-145, he looks pretty drained at the weigh-ins, certainly not as bad as he did at the end of his time at 140, but still looks to be pushing it a bit.
    It's very difficult for Cotto to make weight below 147... but sometimes huge money (maybe to the tune of $10M guaranteed purse) can convince you to agree to such terms...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Cotto vs Hatton/Pacquiao would have Cotto as a favorite IMO. Cotto is a strong welterweight. I think both Hatton and Pacquiao can hold their own against him but if it's at 147, Cotto would beat them both quite handily.

    The only way to make it a fair fight is to have it at a catchweight around 143-145.
    I don't know if Cotto could make 143-145, he looks pretty drained at the weigh-ins, certainly not as bad as he did at the end of his time at 140, but still looks to be pushing it a bit.
    It's very difficult for Cotto to make weight below 147... but sometimes huge money (maybe to the tune of $10M guaranteed purse) can convince you to agree to such terms...
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    Pacquiao went up to 147 to humiliate the Golden Boy (pause while I smile at the memory), so why should Cotto go down below 147 to fight Pac?

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