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    Default Re: Guillermo Rigondeaux has defected, turrning pro

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    10 times better?
    No
    He honestly is 10 times better than Gamboa or Lara. He is the perfect combination of speed, power and technique, that is why he is one of my favorite fighters ever, even before he was going to go pro, I've seen him get hit like everybody and I hope he has a great chin too, he's never been stopped as amateur(then again he's hardly ever lost), but growing up in Cuba where everybody is talented and good boxers, and to barely lose or get stopped means he is something we may have not seen before.
    Can you suck his dikk any harder? Think about that stupid comment for a second. 10 times better? Really?

    I think you saw his fight with Abner Mares for the first time recently and decided to fall in love with Rigondeaux. And I can see why. Rigondeaux looked great. But guess what? That was in 2003. He's not the same fighter he was. Look at his 2006 fight with Rau'shee Warren. While he's still very good you can tell the difference. Now it's 2009. 3 years later. Not only has he not been active but Rigondeaux always has had a reputation for loving the night life. To think he's the same fighter he was in the early 2000's is foolish. Rigondeaux will be a good pro. I can easily see him being champion. But he will not be the Superman your making him out to be. He's beatable.

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    Have you watched Rau'Shee Warren who was a world champion, and got screwed in his first fight of the tournament? He's extremely fast, very good technically, and could cause anybody problems. Rigondeaux went on to stop Ali Aliyev to win that tournament. Not only that but he went on to win every fight from that point until his amateur career ended which was 14 fights later. The fact is at the amateurs every can have a bad night, its not like the pros where you prepare for one fighter for 2-3 months. Which IMO makes him all the better because, he has had to fight multiple opponents with multiple styles and still finds a way to almost ALWAYS win. Even Leonard said being a pro was a lot easier than being an amateur because you didn't get breaks between fights, you fought hurt a lot, and that consistency was much more difficult. He lost to guys liek Ronnie Shields as an amateur.

    Rigondeaux has always been a drinker and a smoker, when did that stop Monzon, or Duran, or JCC anywhere near their prime?

    10 times better is a figure of speech dumbass, it doesn't mean if you made Gamboa 10 times faster, 10 times stronger, 10 times harder of a hitter that Rigondeaux would beat him, it means he is significantly better. Anybody who watched the amateurs at all would know that. He is better than Gamboa in every respect, he hits harder, he's faster, he's harder to hit.

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    Default Re: Guillermo Rigondeaux has defected, turrning pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Have you watched Rau'Shee Warren who was a world champion, and got screwed in his first fight of the tournament? He's extremely fast, very good technically, and could cause anybody problems. Rigondeaux went on to stop Ali Aliyev to win that tournament. Not only that but he went on to win every fight from that point until his amateur career ended which was 14 fights later. The fact is at the amateurs every can have a bad night, its not like the pros where you prepare for one fighter for 2-3 months. Which IMO makes him all the better because, he has had to fight multiple opponents with multiple styles and still finds a way to almost ALWAYS win. Even Leonard said being a pro was a lot easier than being an amateur because you didn't get breaks between fights, you fought hurt a lot, and that consistency was much more difficult. He lost to guys liek Ronnie Shields as an amateur.

    Rigondeaux has always been a drinker and a smoker, when did that stop Monzon, or Duran, or JCC anywhere near their prime?

    10 times better is a figure of speech dumbass, it doesn't mean if you made Gamboa 10 times faster, 10 times stronger, 10 times harder of a hitter that Rigondeaux would beat him, it means he is significantly better. Anybody who watched the amateurs at all would know that. He is better than Gamboa in every respect, he hits harder, he's faster, he's harder to hit.
    Back when Leonard was an amateur there was still actually a little similarity to the pro's. That ain't the case any more. Any idiot can see that. The amateur don't prepare you for the pro's any more like they use to. It's just about a different sport. Success in the amateurs still carries a little weight. But only a little. Your linking the 2 sports as if they were one. Rigondeaux is great amateur boxer. One of the best ever. But that's amateur boxer. With big gloves. Head gear. And only going 3 rounds. In your confused mind he's already a great pro. Despite never facing pro power. Never fighting without head gear. And never going more than 3 rounds.

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    Default Re: Guillermo Rigondeaux has defected, turrning pro

    Actually its four rounds, have you even watched him fight? Or any amateurs? You are trying to say Rigondeaux isn't the fighter that he used to be, well maybe since he has stopped fighting, but all the way up to the end of his amateur career, name one fight that supports your opinion.

    If the amateurs didn't help with being a pro then name one gold medal champion who went pro since the rule changes that has had a losing record. It isn't like trying to stick a boxer into an MMA fighter. It still follows the same pattern. Sure Rigondeaux might have a weak chin, and that could be his downfall, but unless he is way worse than he use to be, or he has a china glass chin, he will be a worldchampion he is way too gifted in way too many ways not to be. Besides I am not a pro, and I've foughten without head gear on, against people wearing pro gloves, do you honestly believe these growing up in cuba haven't fought without head gear on before?

    Also name a world champion cuban that hasn't done relatively well in the pro ranks. Rigondeaux is the best of them all, why would he do worse than those before him?

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    Default Re: Guillermo Rigondeaux has defected, turrning pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Actually its four rounds, have you even watched him fight? Or any amateurs? You are trying to say Rigondeaux isn't the fighter that he used to be, well maybe since he has stopped fighting, but all the way up to the end of his amateur career, name one fight that supports your opinion.

    If the amateurs didn't help with being a pro then name one gold medal champion who went pro since the rule changes that has had a losing record. It isn't like trying to stick a boxer into an MMA fighter. It still follows the same pattern. Sure Rigondeaux might have a weak chin, and that could be his downfall, but unless he is way worse than he use to be, or he has a china glass chin, he will be a worldchampion he is way too gifted in way too many ways not to be. Besides I am not a pro, and I've foughten without head gear on, against people wearing pro gloves, do you honestly believe these growing up in cuba haven't fought without head gear on before?

    Also name a world champion cuban that hasn't done relatively well in the pro ranks. Rigondeaux is the best of them all, why would he do worse than those before him?
    I have some Rigondeaux fights. I seen enough of him to know he's very talented and possess great skills. I expect him to be champion. I also seen enough of him to know he will not destroy Rafael Marquez or Israel Vazquez. I seen enough of him to know he's not 10 times better than Gamboa or Lara. I also seen enough amateur and pro Boxing to know greatness in one doesn't translate into greatness in the other one.

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