harrison after haye

[El Kabong]

I said Haye deserved Audley because they both think so highly of themselves yet neither has done anything at the heavyweight division.

If I was David Haye's manager and I wanted to prepare him to fight Wladimir Klitschko I would make matches to build confidence but also to expose Haye to a similar style that Wlad uses AND similar size fighters as Wladimir.

The guys who I think fit in these categories are as follows:

Andrew Golota - an older fighter, good basic skills, not much heart, doesn't take punches well, and fights in an upright eastern european style....technically strong yet seemingly easy to KO

Oleg Maskaev - same as Golota only Oleg has heart and he may not be as good technically.

Luan Krasniqi - a lesser version of Maskaev and Golota

Sergei Lyakahovich - a less dangerous version of the previously mentioned eastern european fighters

Jameel McCline - a huge guy, decent defense, not big on power (bar the Sam Peter fight), and usually timid when facing someone who can hurt him.

Alexander Dimitrenko - he's big, he's undefeated, he's trained by Wladimir's old trainer.....he's PERFECT to test how Haye would do vs Wladimir.

Alexander Povetkin - undefeated, top rate technical skills, questionable chin and stamina and IMO his power is overrated

Tony Thompson - big guy, good defense, only got KO'd once (by Wlad) good jab, and can outbox anyone and drag them into the later rounds a very tough test for anyone....you can't gun to KO him early because he has a good chin and good defense and he has decent stamina although it is probably because his workrate is low, though he does enough to win rounds.

Ray Austin - big, falls alseep on defense, does everything OK, not spectacular in any one area.

There are guys out there who David Haye could fight and beat and create a REAL buzz around him. And although the majority of the guys I listed are beyond the time where they will compete for titles they are still good measuring sticks and would provide solid competition for David Haye

[smashup]

NO WAY this would even be concieved by Haye.
Just Fraudley trying to get a payday.
Won't Happen.

[Drago]

as the crusierweight title is only a few years old,
this as stated could be part reason why in general crusiers have not been great at heavyweight but also crusier is not a glamorous division i am sure many fighters should be fighting in that divison but the money is at heavy so fighters want to fight in that division & stay clear of crusierweight.

does haye deserve a shot at heavy title, in my opinion no but i wanna see the fight & so do many fans & that makes sense.

[The Fightfan]

Does all of this really matter? Hopefully the Wlad Haye fight will be signed soon. Wlad will pick him apart and the British fans will still be saying that Wlad is a piece s**t plodding heavyweight who has fought no one of note until the end of his career. Then probably piss and moan about if Haye had fought more in the heavies he would have destroyed Wlad and Vitali together in the same night.

Haye is the biggest hype job of all time. There is no one who immediately comes to mind who get's as much publicity for doing absolutely nothing in the heavyweight divison but TALK the greatest fight of his life. This man is no Tyson,no Ali, and for England's sake sure as f**k is no Lennox. This is what makes boxing a joke to people who don't watch this sport. How the f**k can a guy who fought one heavyweight get a shot at the title when people have been in this division there entire career and not even been mentioned. I do agree with Lyle and Violent Demise. I sure as hell could see Thompson disposing of this fella as well as Aerreola. Haye has proven nothing to me in the heavies except knocking Barrett out in which Klitschko bounced off the canvas a half a dozen times in '00 and whom many other's have taken care of.

[ross]

the money is at heavy so fighters want to fight in that division & stay clear of crusierweight.

I dont believe that.

The money is where the entertainers and ticket sellers are at.

Look at Hasmed at featherweight, he was earning about 4 or 5 million £ a fight over ten years ago, no one is earning that now!!

If people get excited by a particular fighter and are willing to watch em fight, they will pay for it, unfortunately there isnt anyone other than Hatton today that can sell fights like that.

[El Kabong]

Does all of this really matter? Hopefully the Wlad Haye fight will be signed soon. Wlad will pick him apart and the British fans will still be saying that Wlad is a piece s**t plodding heavyweight who has fought no one of note until the end of his career. Then probably piss and moan about if Haye had fought more in the heavies he would have destroyed Wlad and Vitali together in the same night.

It's like you can see into the future

Everyone who is not blinded by the star power of David Haye seems to see things much like I do. If (when) David Haye loses vs Wladimir (which he will) all the Haye fans will complain about Wlad's fighting style, they will come up with excuses for why Haye lost ie "It was David's first fight vs a top level heavyweight", "David was sick", "Joe Cortez had something to do with it" etc. and the only way Wladimir gets ANY respect at all is if he loses and then of course it's "David Haye beat the best heavyweight out there!"

I just think it's better for boxing if David Haye has a little more experience and both he and Wlad are able to build a rivalry.....but there's no waiting for David Haye

[Drago]

Does all of this really matter? Hopefully the Wlad Haye fight will be signed soon. Wlad will pick him apart and the British fans will still be saying that Wlad is a piece s**t plodding heavyweight who has fought no one of note until the end of his career. Then probably piss and moan about if Haye had fought more in the heavies he would have destroyed Wlad and Vitali together in the same night.

Haye is the biggest hype job of all time. There is no one who immediately comes to mind who get's as much publicity for doing absolutely nothing in the heavyweight divison but TALK the greatest fight of his life. This man is no Tyson,no Ali, and for England's sake sure as f**k is no Lennox. This is what makes boxing a joke to people who don't watch this sport. How the f**k can a guy who fought one heavyweight get a shot at the title when people have been in this division there entire career and not even been mentioned. I do agree with Lyle and Violent Demise. I sure as hell could see Thompson disposing of this fella as well as Aerreola. Haye has proven nothing to me in the heavies except knocking Barrett out in which Klitschko bounced off the canvas a half a dozen times in '00 and whom many other's have taken care of.

roy jones?

[Drago]

Does all of this really matter? Hopefully the Wlad Haye fight will be signed soon. Wlad will pick him apart and the British fans will still be saying that Wlad is a piece s**t plodding heavyweight who has fought no one of note until the end of his career. Then probably piss and moan about if Haye had fought more in the heavies he would have destroyed Wlad and Vitali together in the same night.

It's like you can see into the future

Everyone who is not blinded by the star power of David Haye seems to see things much like I do. If (when) David Haye loses vs Wladimir (which he will) all the Haye fans will complain about Wlad's fighting style, they will come up with excuses for why Haye lost ie "It was David's first fight vs a top level heavyweight", "David was sick", "Joe Cortez had something to do with it" etc. and the only way Wladimir gets ANY respect at all is if he loses and then of course it's "David Haye beat the best heavyweight out there!"

I just think it's better for boxing if David Haye has a little more experience and both he and Wlad are able to build a rivalry.....but there's no waiting for David Haye

i wont be complaining if wlad wins i think he is a good champion who is a role model, would like some excitement in the division though & haye brings that.

[ross]

Yeah but thats like saying that Oscar brought some glamour to the middleweights

[Drago]

Yeah but thats like saying that Oscar brought some glamour to the middleweights

he did though

[Drago]

the money is at heavy so fighters want to fight in that division & stay clear of crusierweight.

I dont believe that.

The money is where the entertainers and ticket sellers are at.

Look at Hasmed at featherweight, he was earning about 4 or 5 million £ a fight over ten years ago, no one is earning that now!!

If people get excited by a particular fighter and are willing to watch em fight, they will pay for it, unfortunately there isnt anyone other than Hatton today that can sell fights like that.

haye makes more money as succesfull heavy than succesfull crusier wont he?

[ross]

There is one key word you have used Twice there that I dont think will happen

[The Fightfan]

Does all of this really matter? Hopefully the Wlad Haye fight will be signed soon. Wlad will pick him apart and the British fans will still be saying that Wlad is a piece s**t plodding heavyweight who has fought no one of note until the end of his career. Then probably piss and moan about if Haye had fought more in the heavies he would have destroyed Wlad and Vitali together in the same night.

Haye is the biggest hype job of all time. There is no one who immediately comes to mind who get's as much publicity for doing absolutely nothing in the heavyweight divison but TALK the greatest fight of his life. This man is no Tyson,no Ali, and for England's sake sure as f**k is no Lennox. This is what makes boxing a joke to people who don't watch this sport. How the f**k can a guy who fought one heavyweight get a shot at the title when people have been in this division there entire career and not even been mentioned. I do agree with Lyle and Violent Demise. I sure as hell could see Thompson disposing of this fella as well as Aerreola. Haye has proven nothing to me in the heavies except knocking Barrett out in which Klitschko bounced off the canvas a half a dozen times in '00 and whom many other's have taken care of.

roy jones?

Wow that one did silence me. Let's be realistic here A REAL HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE. Not John Ruiz who couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag.

[El Kabong]

Roy Jones Jr. was already a very well established fighter at 47-1 (the loss was by DQ as well), he was a champion at a couple of weight classes AND the #1 Pound 4 Pound fighter at the time that fight was made.


David Haye is 22-1 and has already been KO'd and isn't anywhere close to top 20 Pound 4 Pound

[littlebif]

Roy Jones Jr. was already a very well established fighter at 47-1 (the loss was by DQ as well), he was a champion at a couple of weight classes AND the #1 Pound 4 Pound fighter at the time that fight was made.


David Haye is 22-1 and has already been KO'd and isn't anywhere close to top 20 Pound 4 Pound

According to setenta he is top 10