harrison after haye

[El Kabong]

According to setenta he is top 10

That doesn't surprise me

[Violent Demise]

This is A Forces excuse for the sparring

Audley gives more details on sparring session with David Haye in 2006.



25 February 2009
AUDLEY SPEAKS


I wanted to give some more details about my sparring session with David Haye and why I say he took liberties in trying to blast me out.

After my first lost to Danny Williams, my confidence was low and I went to Miami to hook up with Lennox and try to get my mojo back. I was with my training team and had just signed to fight Dominic Guinn for April 14th. It was early March and we were running along the beach in the morning and we bump into David who was training there and was also running. We talked and as David was nearing the end of camp for his fight back in London, we agreed to speak later as we didn't want cool down.

Bear in mind, I hadn’t done any boxing specific training since December and I was really looking to get my fire back and utilise the advice of Lennox. I believe it was 2 weeks later when Lennox told me he was leaving town and wanted to see me spar before he left town. We arranged for a novice pro who was in the gym to move around with me and we set it up for that evening.

David called and asked what I was up to and I told him what was planned for that evening. David had never come to my gym before while we were there, he trained elsewhere.

He gave no indication that he wished to come to the spar, so I never expected him and Adam to turn up and ask to spar. Regardless, I said no problems as I thought it would be good for Lennox to have a look at him (as far as I’m aware, David nor his side kick Adam had met Lennox before this day).

I did 3 rounds with the novice and then David stepped in. I noticed he was jumping up and down and looking really animated. It was 2 weeks away from his fight and he was at the end of his camp. Round 1: David came out throwing combinations, 3 and 4 at a time; I was so slow, I couldn’t even keep up with him. Wave after wave of punches came my way; he wasn’t holding back. I kept my guard tight and looked for an opening but couldn’t get off. The onslaught continued for 3 rounds and I hardly landed a shot on him.

My team looked at me like what the f..k was that about?. Was I embarrassed? HELL YES! Lennox said not to worry, as it was my first spar and that I’ll get better. Unfortunately, this set the mood for camp and I never got off first base. So that’s another reason why I want to get David in the ring, as I believe his actions on that day impacted my whole training camp and I boxed Dominic Guinn still low on confidence. I will say this, David has never hurt me all the many times we have boxed; I don’t think he can say the same.

In Rocky 3, Apollo Creed helps Rocky gets back his mojo and does what true friends do and helps him re build his confidence. I got there in the end by myself, but I should have seen David for what he was then. If you really look at David’s set up, it has got A Force written all over it. I have given David so much and have wanted nothing in return. The student may be the star today, but he has forgotten who his master was on his way up. Well, like in Rocky 5, the old master still has some game, so if you and WLAD do not happen, I’m here and waiting.

A FORCE

http://www.audleyharrison.com/audley/audley-gives-more-details-on-sparring-session-with-david-haye-in-2006-143.html

Another thing I love about boxing. Every time I think I read it all. Something like this comes out

[rjj tszyu]

Roy Jones Jr. was already a very well established fighter at 47-1 (the loss was by DQ as well), he was a champion at a couple of weight classes AND the #1 Pound 4 Pound fighter at the time that fight was made.


David Haye is 22-1 and has already been KO'd and isn't anywhere close to top 20 Pound 4 Pound

Right he had been a champ at 3 at the time the fight was made but had only been undisputed at one because he moved through MW and SMW fairly swiftly. Haye has also been undisputed at one! Fair enough he is not #1 p4p but you'll find him in a lot of p4p lists and way above Wlad in most.

To be totally honest I think your right I think he should fight more at HW before he gets a title shot (unless it was Valuev) and prove he totally deserves his shot but I really think he would destroy everyone on your earlier list and I honestly think the only people who COULD beat him at the moment are the Klitschko's but I don't see a foregone conclusion. At the end of the day he has power and speed and Wlad is quite chinny so these are big things that go against Wlad.

[Majesty]

Audley is probably the closest thing to a style Wladimer likes to fight. So this is a good matchup for Haye, he is fighting a 6'8 guy who likes to set up things with a jab also Harrison has legit power at Heavyweight, and he lacks a chin.

Sounds like a poor man's Southpaw Wladimer that never made it and isn't gonna be top tier.

But its the closest Haye is gonna get to facing a similar style. He can't go around beating 6'1 heavyweights and then walk in against Klitschko like he can do the exact same thing. Then he can move on and fight Arreola and then he can fight Wladimer. It's a perfect set up. Take out the UK's former next champ, then take out the USA's current "next champ" and then face Wladimer for all the money. It makes sense.

[Drago]

Roy Jones Jr. was already a very well established fighter at 47-1 (the loss was by DQ as well), he was a champion at a couple of weight classes AND the #1 Pound 4 Pound fighter at the time that fight was made.


David Haye is 22-1 and has already been KO'd and isn't anywhere close to top 20 Pound 4 Pound

so you saying that it was ok for roy to fight for the title but not haye who is only 1 weight division below heavy & was the undisputed champ of cruiser? where as roy fought at light heavy? i am not being defensive here just wondered?

many fighters have moved up weight divisions & captured titles.

[El Kabong]

Roy had the clout to go and fight for A title. He beat a very weak title holder, he never tried to unify, he never defended the titles, and he never sought out a fight with Chris Byrd much less The Klitschko's.


I think it's best for boxing if Haye creates a resume at heavyweight before fighting Wladimir but if you want to see Haye get his ass stomped then fine by me, just don't complain about what a one sided beat down it was after it's over.

[rjj tszyu]

Roy had the clout to go and fight for A title. He beat a very weak title holder, he never tried to unify, he never defended the titles, and he never sought out a fight with Chris Byrd much less The Klitschko's.


I think it's best for boxing if Haye creates a resume at heavyweight before fighting Wladimir but if you want to see Haye get his ass stomped then fine by me, just don't complain about what a one sided beat down it was after it's over.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. Just like what happened to the mighty Ross Purrity I suppose

[El Kabong]

Big talk from a guy who is supporting the very same David Haye who got KO'd by the ancient Carl Thompson

[rjj tszyu]

Big talk from a guy who is supporting the very same David Haye who got KO'd by the ancient Carl Thompson

Yes but I never saw Thompson lose 20 fights did you? Puritty did! And Haye was only in his 11th fight. Wlad was in his 25th and knew he just wasn't good enough for Puritty so he had to get big bro to beat him up just like Sanders!

[Bomp]

Roy was the biggest name in boxing at the time and came up all the way from middleweight, people were curious as to what he'd do at against a heavy and the fight made sense. I'm not againts Haye getting a shot as the division is crap anyway, and when Maskaev become mandatory after beating a Hawkins, well ......................

What I don't like about Haye is his absolute reluctance to risk his 'shot' at Klitchko against any top 10 fighter.

[rjj tszyu]

Roy was the biggest name in boxing at the time and came up all the way from middleweight, people were curious as to what he'd do at against a heavy and the fight made sense. I'm not againts Haye getting a shot as the division is crap anyway, and when Maskaev become mandatory after beating a Hawkins, well ......................

What I don't like about Haye is his absolute reluctance to risk his 'shot' at Klitchko against any top 10 fighter.

I totally agree. I don't know how the negotiations are going but they can't be good, so why not move on beat someone in the top 10 and then make some more noise until Wlad has to take the fight!

[Bomp]

Roy was the biggest name in boxing at the time and came up all the way from middleweight, people were curious as to what he'd do at against a heavy and the fight made sense. I'm not againts Haye getting a shot as the division is crap anyway, and when Maskaev become mandatory after beating a Hawkins, well ......................

What I don't like about Haye is his absolute reluctance to risk his 'shot' at Klitchko against any top 10 fighter.

I totally agree. I don't know how the negotiations are going but they can't be good, so why not move on beat someone in the top 10 and then make some more noise until Wlad has to take the fight!

Exactly, force the fight by taking out the opposition, I just have a suspicion that Haye doesn't believe himself he could go through a string of top heavies without being caught out.

[rjj tszyu]

Roy was the biggest name in boxing at the time and came up all the way from middleweight, people were curious as to what he'd do at against a heavy and the fight made sense. I'm not againts Haye getting a shot as the division is crap anyway, and when Maskaev become mandatory after beating a Hawkins, well ......................

What I don't like about Haye is his absolute reluctance to risk his 'shot' at Klitchko against any top 10 fighter.

I totally agree. I don't know how the negotiations are going but they can't be good, so why not move on beat someone in the top 10 and then make some more noise until Wlad has to take the fight!

Exactly, force the fight by taking out the opposition, I just have a suspicion that Haye doesn't believe himself he could go through a string of top heavies without being caught out.

Personally I don't think thats the case! I think he see's what he did at Cruiser as being enough to get him a quick shot at a title and why take the long way around when you can go straight to the top?

Personally I don't agree but it happens in every other division so why should a weak ass HW division be any different? The WBO didn't help matters when they said he would have a title shot quickly after beating Enzo and vacating!

[Bomp]

I totally agree. I don't know how the negotiations are going but they can't be good, so why not move on beat someone in the top 10 and then make some more noise until Wlad has to take the fight!

Exactly, force the fight by taking out the opposition, I just have a suspicion that Haye doesn't believe himself he could go through a string of top heavies without being caught out.

Personally I don't think thats the case! I think he see's what he did at Cruiser as being enough to get him a quick shot at a title and why take the long way around when you can go straight to the top?

Personally I don't agree but it happens in every other division so why should a weak ass HW division be any different? The WBO didn't help matters when they said he would have a title shot quickly after beating Enzo and vacating!

Either way, he'll still have to take out some top contenders to consolidate his reign if he manages to beat Wlad, just feels if he's that confident then why not take some of them out before, especially as negotiations seems to be stalling.

[rjj tszyu]

I think he probably will do now. I'd love to see him wipe the floor with that fat blob Arreola first but Wlad seems seems to have his heart set on doing it before him.