Just Back Briefly To Say.....

[leftylee]

Mick I think your taking this way out of proportion mate. Coming from an outsider it seems like your trying to bully ICB and taking it personal. I seriousley don't know what your getting at here. I always liked you Mick...but your taking this shit too serious.

Fact is, whatever ICB has done...lied...whatever. He contributes an awful fuckin lot to this site, a hell more than most other members. That's the main thing IMO.

[AdamGB]

To be honest Ice I'm dissapointed... When I read 'Just back Briefly To say...' I exected the thread to be more along the lines of this:

"Fuck y'all, all a y'all, if y'all don't like me, blow me, y'all gonna go keep fucking around with me and turn me back to the old me"

That would have been ice cold mate

This was less like 'forgot about dre' and more 'forgot about gay' :-/

Half Kidding here, I think you're a good poster, always liked your posts but private messages are just that - private. No need to splash them about the place

[CutMeMick]

Mick I think your taking this way out of proportion mate. Coming from an outsider it seems like your trying to bully ICB and taking it personal. I seriousley don't know what your getting at here. I always liked you Mick...but your taking this shit too serious.

Fact is, whatever ICB has done...lied...whatever. He contributes an awful fuckin lot to this site, a hell more than most other members. That's the main thing IMO.

Lee I take it serious because he's on the Main Board making shit up and trying to pass as if it's a fact.

ICB plenty of times tried to get at me and debate with me as if his word was the law and it's all that mattered. This isn't something that just springed up because of the whole chess thing.

This here between ICB & I has been on for about 2 yrs. or so, so don't think for a second this is something new.

We've got a lot of people who contribute reason ICB is noted is because he creates a thread about EVERY single boxing thought that crosses his mind. He used to create about 10-15 threads a day when he 1st came on here just posting fights.
Anyone can contribute that way, you could contribute making threads about anything anyone can.

What he didn't realize is that in making so many threads he would mix up comments and stories.

As for the File Sharing/fights those links can be found online.
He doesn't cap them he get's the links from other sites he's on anyone can get them if you just search for them.
El Gamo used to do the same thing when he was around but I belive El Gamo used to trade fights also.

Anyway, Lee if I'm taking this serious it's because I've seen this from the start and because ICB felt the need to post a PM where he thought he'd surprise me with something but if you read the PM I clearly say things I've said before.

[CutMeMick]

but private messages are just that - private. No need to splash them about the place

That's OK Adam.

Read the PM.
I clearly tell him he tries too hard and I clearly tell him he's been copying my posts and respoting them as his.

[Youngblood]

I do agree with the PM deal. I thought it was an unwritten law of the message board - PMs are kinda not supposed to be reprinted without permission of both parties. Otherwise, I'd prob. not trust anyone to ever do PMs with if I thought they were going to repost stuff. Although most of my PMs are little more then calling CFH a retard every time he beats one of my arcade scores.

[CutMeMick]

For those who are asking if ICB has really copied my posts and or things I've said here's one I tracked down and there's more let me try and find them.

So I noticed a while back when ICB 1st came on here that he used to repeat things that I would post. Like I remember I brought up Jose 'Maestrito' Lopez into light and said he would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike and the next day he made a thread that read something like "I think Lopez would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike on his best night he was something else. What do you guys think?? Opinions"

Run a search and you'll see the thread.

This had happened before where he would echo my comments to make it seem/appear like he said it. At 1st I was like nah! I think it's just me but then it happened again and again and the last time it happened I guess he couldn't really remember what I had said about Arguello that he took a shot in the dark but missed. He said watching Arguello fight was like watching Mozart... When in reality I had said wathing Alexis fight and throw punches must have been like watching Picasso paint as every punch would be like the precise stroke of Picassos brush onto the canvas. He said Mozart.

Anyway! I was going thru my "New replies to my posts" and found this. Keep in mind ICB just saw Pernells 1st fight a couple of nights ago when the 1st posts took place and heres what I replied.
(ICB had changed his name to OBPacstraighleft after losing a bet)

Pernell Whitaker was damn impressive in his first pro fight you could see he was something special even that early in his career.

SweetPea had shown skill and lots of talent since he was an amateur.
His flow in the ring was like water current movements that seemed synched but were all really going with the flow of the opponent.

Now heres what he posted today about Pernell. Look/sound familiar Not only that but he just saw the fight for the 1st time about 2 days ago from the top post and now hes saying hes been a fan since then.
Then being 2 days prior...

Whitaker's first pro fight got me hooked he looked so damn good and it looked like his body was made out of water i couldn't believe my eyes ever since then i have been a fan.

[Kev]

For those who are asking if ICB has really copied my posts and or things I've said here's one I tracked down and there's more let me try and find them.

So I noticed a while back when ICB 1st came on here that he used to repeat things that I would post. Like I remember I brought up Jose 'Maestrito' Lopez into light and said he would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike and the next day he made a thread that read something like "I think Lopez would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike on his best night he was something else. What do you guys think?? Opinions"

Run a search and you'll see the thread.

This had happened before where he would echo my comments to make it seem/appear like he said it. At 1st I was like nah! I think it's just me but then it happened again and again and the last time it happened I guess he couldn't really remember what I had said about Arguello that he took a shot in the dark but missed. He said watching Arguello fight was like watching Mozart... When in reality I had said wathing Alexis fight and throw punches must have been like watching Picasso paint as every punch would be like the precise stroke of Picassos brush onto the canvas. He said Mozart.

Anyway! I was going thru my "New replies to my posts" and found this. Keep in mind ICB just saw Pernells 1st fight a couple of nights ago when the 1st posts took place and heres what I replied.
(ICB had changed his name to OBPacstraighleft after losing a bet)

SweetPea had shown skill and lots of talent since he was an amateur.
His flow in the ring was like water current movements that seemed synched but were all really going with the flow of the opponent.

Now heres what he posted today about Pernell. Look/sound familiar Not only that but he just saw the fight for the 1st time about 2 days ago from the top post and now hes saying hes been a fan since then.
Then being 2 days prior...

Whitaker's first pro fight got me hooked he looked so damn good and it looked like his body was made out of water i couldn't believe my eyes ever since then i have been a fan.

Maybe Ice is just like some kind of human mind virus, absorbing the thoughts, ideas and conciousness of those around him like some kind of self learning super computer?

In the chess thread he said the following, 'But i don't know what it is but i can see many moves ahead. You know like you said that time in Checkers ? well thats it i can just see the moves.

I've always described Checkers as looking down a well, and Chess looking across the sea regarding Position, Moves, ETC'

Wise words indeed from Ice whose thoughts were echoed by Marion Tinsley, the world's greatest ever checkers player, who said the following '"Chess is like looking across an ocean. Checkers is like looking down a well'

[CutMeMick]

For those who are asking if ICB has really copied my posts and or things I've said here's one I tracked down and there's more let me try and find them.

So I noticed a while back when ICB 1st came on here that he used to repeat things that I would post. Like I remember I brought up Jose 'Maestrito' Lopez into light and said he would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike and the next day he made a thread that read something like "I think Lopez would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike on his best night he was something else. What do you guys think?? Opinions"

Run a search and you'll see the thread.

This had happened before where he would echo my comments to make it seem/appear like he said it. At 1st I was like nah! I think it's just me but then it happened again and again and the last time it happened I guess he couldn't really remember what I had said about Arguello that he took a shot in the dark but missed. He said watching Arguello fight was like watching Mozart... When in reality I had said wathing Alexis fight and throw punches must have been like watching Picasso paint as every punch would be like the precise stroke of Picassos brush onto the canvas. He said Mozart.

Anyway! I was going thru my "New replies to my posts" and found this. Keep in mind ICB just saw Pernells 1st fight a couple of nights ago when the 1st posts took place and heres what I replied.
(ICB had changed his name to OBPacstraighleft after losing a bet)




Now heres what he posted today about Pernell. Look/sound familiar Not only that but he just saw the fight for the 1st time about 2 days ago from the top post and now hes saying hes been a fan since then.
Then being 2 days prior...

Maybe Ice is just like some kind of human mind virus, absorbing the thoughts, ideas and conciousness of those around him like some kind of self learning super computer?

In the chess thread he said the following, 'But i don't know what it is but i can see many moves ahead. You know like you said that time in Checkers ? well thats it i can just see the moves.

I've always described Checkers as looking down a well, and Chess looking across the sea regarding Position, Moves, ETC'

Wise words indeed from Ice whose thoughts were echoed by Marion Tinsley, the world's greatest ever checkers player, who said the following '"Chess is like looking across an ocean. Checkers is like looking down a well'

You've gotta be kidding?
So those words he typed were actually words of the greatest chess player ever?

Holy shit! this is fucking nuts man.
This dude is on some serious shit here...

I can't believe this, I can't.... I....
I'm at a loss for words here.

[Julius Rain]

I think a dance off will settle this once and for all.

[Gandalf]

I'm not impressed with this thread at all. Ice has taken time off and got even more entrenched with the same old way of thinking. In the past few weeks he has insulted CGM, Bilbo, Memphis and CMM when all they have really done is highlight inconsistencies and contradictions in the very words he himself wrote on this forum.

I have never had any major problems with Ice besides the odd debate on the boxing board. Ice can be an extremely likeable poster, and does have a decent knowledge of the sport having been following it closely some time now. He can be a positive influence on the boards. But to continually post without taking responsibilty for ones own words is wrong.

I was hoping Ice might come back with a sense of humour and a little humility and just concede that he has been a bit of a prat. This is a communal kind of place and people like to know where they stand with each other. A long time member shouldn't need to spin things, and to come back headstrong in the face of evidence showing you up, is not the way to earn respect.

It could have turned out a lot better than this. But that's just the way it goes I guess.

[Spicoli]

For those who are asking if ICB has really copied my posts and or things I've said here's one I tracked down and there's more let me try and find them.

So I noticed a while back when ICB 1st came on here that he used to repeat things that I would post. Like I remember I brought up Jose 'Maestrito' Lopez into light and said he would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike and the next day he made a thread that read something like "I think Lopez would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike on his best night he was something else. What do you guys think?? Opinions"

Run a search and you'll see the thread.

This had happened before where he would echo my comments to make it seem/appear like he said it. At 1st I was like nah! I think it's just me but then it happened again and again and the last time it happened I guess he couldn't really remember what I had said about Arguello that he took a shot in the dark but missed. He said watching Arguello fight was like watching Mozart... When in reality I had said wathing Alexis fight and throw punches must have been like watching Picasso paint as every punch would be like the precise stroke of Picassos brush onto the canvas. He said Mozart.

Anyway! I was going thru my "New replies to my posts" and found this. Keep in mind ICB just saw Pernells 1st fight a couple of nights ago when the 1st posts took place and heres what I replied.
(ICB had changed his name to OBPacstraighleft after losing a bet)

SweetPea had shown skill and lots of talent since he was an amateur.
His flow in the ring was like water current movements that seemed synched but were all really going with the flow of the opponent.

Now heres what he posted today about Pernell. Look/sound familiar Not only that but he just saw the fight for the 1st time about 2 days ago from the top post and now hes saying hes been a fan since then.
Then being 2 days prior...

Whitaker's first pro fight got me hooked he looked so damn good and it looked like his body was made out of water i couldn't believe my eyes ever since then i have been a fan.

Speaks volumes yeah Mick.I can see how that could be a pisser.Damn doppleganger fashion sorta riding coat tails.There is nothing wrong with just saying.."I did not know that" and learning as ya go.No need for the halloween charade.

[ICB]

For those who are asking if ICB has really copied my posts and or things I've said here's one I tracked down and there's more let me try and find them.

So I noticed a while back when ICB 1st came on here that he used to repeat things that I would post. Like I remember I brought up Jose 'Maestrito' Lopez into light and said he would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike and the next day he made a thread that read something like "I think Lopez would have beaten ODLH, Tito, Vargas & Ike on his best night he was something else. What do you guys think?? Opinions"

Run a search and you'll see the thread.

This had happened before where he would echo my comments to make it seem/appear like he said it. At 1st I was like nah! I think it's just me but then it happened again and again and the last time it happened I guess he couldn't really remember what I had said about Arguello that he took a shot in the dark but missed. He said watching Arguello fight was like watching Mozart... When in reality I had said wathing Alexis fight and throw punches must have been like watching Picasso paint as every punch would be like the precise stroke of Picassos brush onto the canvas. He said Mozart.

Anyway! I was going thru my "New replies to my posts" and found this. Keep in mind ICB just saw Pernells 1st fight a couple of nights ago when the 1st posts took place and heres what I replied.
(ICB had changed his name to OBPacstraighleft after losing a bet)

SweetPea had shown skill and lots of talent since he was an amateur.
His flow in the ring was like water current movements that seemed synched but were all really going with the flow of the opponent.

Now heres what he posted today about Pernell. Look/sound familiar Not only that but he just saw the fight for the 1st time about 2 days ago from the top post and now hes saying hes been a fan since then.
Then being 2 days prior...

Whitaker's first pro fight got me hooked he looked so damn good and it looked like his body was made out of water i couldn't believe my eyes ever since then i have been a fan.

I never said that the first fight i saw of Pernell Whitaker's, was his first pro fight i said that was one of the ones that got me hooked. If your questioning if i've seen it.

I'll gladly do a RBR of the fight and a detailed one. People say im crazy yet you've actually gone to the trouble of finding my posts to try and discredit me, or try and say im coping your posts ? I don't copy you Roberto so calm down take a breather you aren't that important.

[smashup]

ORDER....ORDER I SAY

[leftylee]

Mick I think your taking this way out of proportion mate. Coming from an outsider it seems like your trying to bully ICB and taking it personal. I seriousley don't know what your getting at here. I always liked you Mick...but your taking this shit too serious.

Fact is, whatever ICB has done...lied...whatever. He contributes an awful fuckin lot to this site, a hell more than most other members. That's the main thing IMO.

Lee I take it serious because he's on the Main Board making shit up and trying to pass as if it's a fact.

ICB plenty of times tried to get at me and debate with me as if his word was the law and it's all that mattered. This isn't something that just springed up because of the whole chess thing.

This here between ICB & I has been on for about 2 yrs. or so, so don't think for a second this is something new.

We've got a lot of people who contribute reason ICB is noted is because he creates a thread about EVERY single boxing thought that crosses his mind. He used to create about 10-15 threads a day when he 1st came on here just posting fights.
Anyone can contribute that way, you could contribute making threads about anything anyone can.

What he didn't realize is that in making so many threads he would mix up comments and stories.

As for the File Sharing/fights those links can be found online.
He doesn't cap them he get's the links from other sites he's on anyone can get them if you just search for them.
El Gamo used to do the same thing when he was around but I belive El Gamo used to trade fights also.

Anyway, Lee if I'm taking this serious it's because I've seen this from the start and because ICB felt the need to post a PM where he thought he'd surprise me with something but if you read the PM I clearly say things I've said before.

I just sent you a PM Mick.

[Violent Demise]

Mick I think your taking this way out of proportion mate. Coming from an outsider it seems like your trying to bully ICB and taking it personal. I seriousley don't know what your getting at here. I always liked you Mick...but your taking this shit too serious.

Fact is, whatever ICB has done...lied...whatever. He contributes an awful fuckin lot to this site, a hell more than most other members. That's the main thing IMO.

Lee I take it serious because he's on the Main Board making shit up and trying to pass as if it's a fact.

ICB plenty of times tried to get at me and debate with me as if his word was the law and it's all that mattered. This isn't something that just springed up because of the whole chess thing.

This here between ICB & I has been on for about 2 yrs. or so, so don't think for a second this is something new.

We've got a lot of people who contribute reason ICB is noted is because he creates a thread about EVERY single boxing thought that crosses his mind. He used to create about 10-15 threads a day when he 1st came on here just posting fights.
Anyone can contribute that way, you could contribute making threads about anything anyone can.

What he didn't realize is that in making so many threads he would mix up comments and stories.

As for the File Sharing/fights those links can be found online.
He doesn't cap them he get's the links from other sites he's on anyone can get them if you just search for them.
El Gamo used to do the same thing when he was around but I belive El Gamo used to trade fights also.

Anyway, Lee if I'm taking this serious it's because I've seen this from the start and because ICB felt the need to post a PM where he thought he'd surprise me with something but if you read the PM I clearly say things I've said before.

I got no beef with Ice. But Mick ain't lying. Mick has been suspicious about Ice's knowledge for a long time. This ain't something recent. We've discussed it more than once

I know Ice is well known for stating he never saw a fight. But than weeks later he says he saw it and makes a thread giving his thoughts. I don't know many times Ice has stated this. And I ain't going to bother looking it up. But there are some fights I know he's not lying on. I know cuz I supplied him the fights. A thread about that fight obviously followed. I know I gave him a copy of Jose Luis Castillo first to Cesar Soto. I think Ike Quartey-Crisanto Espana and a couple of others. The last fight I shot him was Ricardo Lopez-Rosendo Alvarez 2. And that's cuz I had got tired of reading how he never saw it. I'll back him that he saw those fights. He's on his on own on them other allegations.