The Amazing Race: Pacquiao vs. JM Marquez for P4P supremacy

[JazMerkin]

Amazing Pound for Pound Race:

Right now I've got it like this

...................Manny Pacquiao
....................Juan Manuel Marquez
.................................................. .....Mighty Mike Arnaoutis

THERE CAN BE NO DISPUTE!

I like your style mate... You resort to nonsense postings if you're losing in the debate ... Nice style...

I'm glad you noticed SaddoBoxer, I watched you're technique & I can safely say I've learnt from the best

[XaduBoxer]

At this juncture, PAC is still leading this race...

Ring Mag P4P List as of March 1, 2009:

[Addicted to_boxing]

Pac is still number one based on a gift decision on paper. No one can erase that fact! But I'll take JMM's last 3 fights including the Pac fight over Pac's last 3 fights. The last two being clear KO's as opposed to KO's on attrition against immobile foes by Pac. (ODLH was spent as soon as he stepped into the ring). Great spent boxer forecasting by Roach. (addmission by Roach himself)

However, Pac should gain more distance after he beats another immobile boxer that just happens to be "OVER RATED". Pac will surely be spoken of in god like terms after this stylistic mismatch / beating.

Problem is JMM's body will not support anything over 135. Anything above 135 hinders JMM significantly. So expect a 3rd fight to be at 140 or 147 by Pac's extremely smart handlers.

[XaduBoxer]

Pac is still number one based on a gift decision on paper. No one can erase that fact! But I'll take JMM's last 3 fights including the Pac fight over Pac's last 3 fights. The last two being clear KO's as opposed to KO's on attrition against immobile foes by Pac. (ODLH was spent as soon as he stepped into the ring). Great spent boxer forecasting by Roach. (addmission by Roach himself)

However, Pac should gain more distance after he beats another immobile boxer that just happens to be "OVER RATED". Pac will surely be spoken of in god like terms after this stylistic mismatch / beating.

Problem is JMM's body will not support anything over 135. Anything above 135 hinders JMM significantly. So expect a 3rd fight to be at 140 or 147 by Pac's extremely smart handlers.

I agree, a PAC vs. JMM 3rd fight above 135 is very dangerous for JMM... He's been receiving considerable beatings in his last 2 fights while PAC enjoying easy vacation fights... The toll of these competitive fights by JMM will be heavily exposed by PAC if ever there's a 3rd fight specially at 140 or above... Better for JMM not to chase PAC anymore... JMM is better off calling out PBF Jr. ...
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[Spicoli]

Pac is still number one based on a gift decision on paper. No one can erase that fact! But I'll take JMM's last 3 fights including the Pac fight over Pac's last 3 fights. The last two being clear KO's as opposed to KO's on attrition against immobile foes by Pac. (ODLH was spent as soon as he stepped into the ring). Great spent boxer forecasting by Roach. (addmission by Roach himself)

However, Pac should gain more distance after he beats another immobile boxer that just happens to be "OVER RATED". Pac will surely be spoken of in god like terms after this stylistic mismatch / beating.

Problem is JMM's body will not support anything over 135. Anything above 135 hinders JMM significantly. So expect a 3rd fight to be at 140 or 147 by Pac's extremely smart handlers.

I agree, a PAC vs. JMM 3rd fight above 135 is very dangerous for JMM... He's been receiving considerable beatings in his last 2 fights while PAC enjoying easy vacation fights... The toll of these competitive fights by JMM will be heavily exposed by PAC if ever there's a 3rd fight specially at 140 or above... Better for JMM not to chase PAC anymore... JMM is better off calling out PBF Jr. ...
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Marquez has prevailed against adversity in the form of a young viable and top 5 quality challenger and an aged but possible HOF linear champion.'Competitive',yes...Beatings...no.I'll take that any day of the week over easy vacation fights as you call them.Once again...Diaz was a belt warmer for Pac,simple as that.Santa-Cruz was having a huge vacation also the entire way,battering Diaz up until Diaz found a brick. Its as clear as day that although Pac holds a disputed victory over Marquez that the matter remains clouded and generates huge interest.Marquez should not have to 'chase' Pacquiao to 140 just as Pac should not walk away from a stacked division in favor of glamor cash grab affair with DelaHypa.

I vote we consolidate these threads,it really is nauseating.Contrary to some hype merchants beliefs,The boxing world as a whole does not revolve around one single fighter . Yaaawn.

[HattonTheHammer]

Pac is still number one based on a gift decision on paper. No one can erase that fact! But I'll take JMM's last 3 fights including the Pac fight over Pac's last 3 fights. The last two being clear KO's as opposed to KO's on attrition against immobile foes by Pac. (ODLH was spent as soon as he stepped into the ring). Great spent boxer forecasting by Roach. (addmission by Roach himself)

However, Pac should gain more distance after he beats another immobile boxer that just happens to be "OVER RATED". Pac will surely be spoken of in god like terms after this stylistic mismatch / beating.

Problem is JMM's body will not support anything over 135. Anything above 135 hinders JMM significantly. So expect a 3rd fight to be at 140 or 147 by Pac's extremely smart handlers.

I agree, a PAC vs. JMM 3rd fight above 135 is very dangerous for JMM... He's been receiving considerable beatings in his last 2 fights while PAC enjoying easy vacation fights... The toll of these competitive fights by JMM will be heavily exposed by PAC if ever there's a 3rd fight specially at 140 or above... Better for JMM not to chase PAC anymore... JMM is better off calling out PBF Jr. ...
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jeez you post some crap on here

Its all well and good being patriotic to your countrymen but then it borederlines into the ridiculous.

Even pacs own team manager would probably tell you the higher up the weight classes jmm-pac goes the less chance of an actual manny win rather than a lopsided decision.

JMM would massacre pac at 135 and butcher him at 140

Next you`ll be telling us all how pacquiao would own cotto at 147

[XaduBoxer]

Pac is still number one based on a gift decision on paper. No one can erase that fact! But I'll take JMM's last 3 fights including the Pac fight over Pac's last 3 fights. The last two being clear KO's as opposed to KO's on attrition against immobile foes by Pac. (ODLH was spent as soon as he stepped into the ring). Great spent boxer forecasting by Roach. (addmission by Roach himself)

However, Pac should gain more distance after he beats another immobile boxer that just happens to be "OVER RATED". Pac will surely be spoken of in god like terms after this stylistic mismatch / beating.

Problem is JMM's body will not support anything over 135. Anything above 135 hinders JMM significantly. So expect a 3rd fight to be at 140 or 147 by Pac's extremely smart handlers.

I agree, a PAC vs. JMM 3rd fight above 135 is very dangerous for JMM... He's been receiving considerable beatings in his last 2 fights while PAC enjoying easy vacation fights... The toll of these competitive fights by JMM will be heavily exposed by PAC if ever there's a 3rd fight specially at 140 or above... Better for JMM not to chase PAC anymore... JMM is better off calling out PBF Jr. ...
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jeez you post some crap on here

Its all well and good being patriotic to your countrymen but then it borederlines into the ridiculous.

Even pacs own team manager would probably tell you the higher up the weight classes jmm-pac goes the less chance of an actual manny win rather than a lopsided decision.

JMM would massacre pac at 135 and butcher him at 140

Next you`ll be telling us all how pacquiao would own cotto at 147

You mean you favor JMM at higher weights (140 and above) over PAC?? Dude just imagine JMM went life and death in his last 2 brutal fights with Casamayor and Juan Diaz while PAC has his last 2 fights in easy fashion and left PAC unmarked at all. The toll of this 2 brutal fights on JMM will be heavily exposed by PAC if JMM fights him again specially at higher weights... JMM's already beaten old body will crumble to pieces...

Regarding Cotto, we'll talk about that more after PAC will inflict the worst beating on Hatton... OK?
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[OumaFan]

JMM if given the chance to skip out of lightweight to fight Oscar would have, end of story, so the constant criticism of Pac for doing so by JMM fans is LOL.

They are both bad asses. Pacquaio gave JMM a chance when he absolutely didn't have too, coming off the MAB fight there was no reason to fight a guy like JMM who was known to be a badass but who could have been avoided for risk/reward reasons but Manny didn't and he even wanted an immediate rematch Who does that?

That is why (and other stuff, who has Manny ever ducked?) I continue to defend Manny when other people have mainly begun to hate him because of Saddoboxer. Good stuff Saddoboxer, it takes a certain skill to be so disliked.

Not that I care, I am all about irrational hate, I can't wait for the next time that Princess Wladina gets KO'd.

[HattonTheHammer]

I agree, a PAC vs. JMM 3rd fight above 135 is very dangerous for JMM... He's been receiving considerable beatings in his last 2 fights while PAC enjoying easy vacation fights... The toll of these competitive fights by JMM will be heavily exposed by PAC if ever there's a 3rd fight specially at 140 or above... Better for JMM not to chase PAC anymore... JMM is better off calling out PBF Jr. ...
.

jeez you post some crap on here

Its all well and good being patriotic to your countrymen but then it borederlines into the ridiculous.

Even pacs own team manager would probably tell you the higher up the weight classes jmm-pac goes the less chance of an actual manny win rather than a lopsided decision.

JMM would massacre pac at 135 and butcher him at 140

Next you`ll be telling us all how pacquiao would own cotto at 147

You mean you favor JMM at higher weights (140 and above) over PAC?? Dude just imagine JMM went life and death in his last 2 brutal fights with Casamayor and Juan Diaz while PAC has his last 2 fights in easy fashion and left PAC unmarked at all. The toll of this 2 brutal fights on JMM will be heavily exposed by PAC if JMM fights him again specially at higher weights... JMM's already beaten old body will crumble to pieces...

Regarding Cotto, we'll talk about that more after PAC will inflict the worst beating on Hatton... OK?
.

Ive said it a million times already but...

Its well documented the 24hours leading up to the fight oscar had major problems that culminated on fight night to him virtually not even trying to fight.

And David Diaz................well is David Diaz!!!!