The Saddoboxing Sanctioning body

[Galaxy]

I'd like to put a motion on the floor for the initial rankings all titles will be vacant. We will rank the top 10 fighters in each weight class, when the #1 ranked fighter fights any other top 5 that will be the first title fight.

This is open to discussion

I'm happy to have all championships vacant but would prefer the current Ring champs to be ranked #1 to continue the linage.

I think if #1 fights any other top 4 should be the qualifier

[killersheep]

I'd like to put a motion on the floor for the initial rankings all titles will be vacant. We will rank the top 10 fighters in each weight class, when the #1 ranked fighter fights any other top 5 that will be the first title fight.

This is open to discussion

I'm happy to have all championships vacant but would prefer the current Ring champs to be ranked #1 to continue the linage.

I think if #1 fights any other top 4 should be the qualifier

So you're talking

Adamek at 200
Pavlik at 160
Hatton at 140
JMM at 135
Vazquez at 122
Calderon at 108

To all get a pass as #1 ranked, I have no problem with that.

[Spicoli]

How about a change of pace...no alphabet soup letters.Need a name ??Oh and monthly reviews of all ring officials.NO EVEN ROUNDS lol.Judges introduced in the ring at the time of fighters and ref.....for ALL to see

Good idea about retaining the Ring Champions

[ukansodoff]

All fights are chosen by us as the goverming body (or 1 in every 2). Everything negotiation wise from venue, ticket prices, promotions, purse, Everything will be left to the promotions teams but if they hit too many stumbling blocks we intervene and what ever we say goes.

We need to make sure the best fights happen, fair fights happen and no super shit excuses are made for fights not happening. Then we wont have people lingerin in the top 10 never gettin a shot when others get plenty of shots just cuz they got a decent fan base.

And when your the world champ all your fights are mandatory defences. You may be your own man but when you have 1 of our belts unless you wana give it back you will fight who we say cuz we wana know whose really the best.

Ofcourse theres room for appeals in all of this for the sake of fairness.

[Trainer Monkey]

How about no Tomato Can padding your record so it looks nicer then it really is?
You'll constantly see a guy with like an 18-0 record,and then you go look at who he's fought,and about the only thing you can think is,"I didnt even know that guy was still alive"

[Hunter]

Can I be in charge of awarding Interim and Champion Emeritus belts

[killersheep]

Can I be in charge of awarding Interim and Champion Emeritus belts

Sure thing, but you're gonna be like that Maytag repairman on the commercials with nothing to do.

OK so here's a couple of scenarios
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Using the loss results in losing 1-3 places

Assume #9 beats #2

a) close fight

Ranks
before ---------- after
1 --------------- 1
2 --------------- 9
3 --------------- 2
4 --------------- 3
5 --------------- 4
6 --------------- 5
7 --------------- 6
8 --------------- 7
9 --------------- 8
10 -------------- 10

b) clear win for #9

before ---------- after
1 --------------- 1
2 --------------- 9
3 --------------- 3
4 --------------- 2
5 --------------- 4
6 --------------- 5
7 --------------- 6
8 --------------- 7
9 --------------- 8
10 -------------- 10

c) blowout win for # 9

before ---------- after
1 --------------- 1
2 --------------- 9
3 --------------- 3
4 --------------- 4
5 --------------- 2
6 --------------- 5
7 --------------- 6
8 --------------- 7
9 --------------- 8
10 -------------- 10

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Fighters switch ranks

again #9 beats #2

Ranks
before ---------- after
1 --------------- 1
2 --------------- 9
3 --------------- 3
4 --------------- 4
5 --------------- 5
6 --------------- 6
7 --------------- 7
8 --------------- 8
9 --------------- 2
10 -------------- 10

[Spicoli]

Can I be in charge of awarding Interim and Champion Emeritus belts

Sure thing, but you're gonna be like that Maytag repairman on the commercials with nothing to do.

OK so here's a couple of scenarios
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Using the loss results in losing 1-3 places

Assume #9 beats #2

a) close fight

Ranks
before ---------- after
1 --------------- 1
2 --------------- 9
3 --------------- 2
4 --------------- 3
5 --------------- 4
6 --------------- 5
7 --------------- 6
8 --------------- 7
9 --------------- 8
10 -------------- 10

b) clear win for #9

before ---------- after
1 --------------- 1
2 --------------- 9
3 --------------- 3
4 --------------- 2
5 --------------- 4
6 --------------- 5
7 --------------- 6
8 --------------- 7
9 --------------- 8
10 -------------- 10

c) blowout win for # 9

before ---------- after
1 --------------- 1
2 --------------- 9
3 --------------- 3
4 --------------- 4
5 --------------- 2
6 --------------- 5
7 --------------- 6
8 --------------- 7
9 --------------- 8
10 -------------- 10

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Fighters switch ranks

again #9 beats #2

Ranks
before ---------- after
1 --------------- 1
2 --------------- 9
3 --------------- 3
4 --------------- 4
5 --------------- 5
6 --------------- 6
7 --------------- 7
8 --------------- 8
9 --------------- 2
10 -------------- 10

Good work but Im just not keen on the a,b,& c loss catagories ?More of a math class and who exactly has the task of determining a blowout from a close nod?Just leaves alot of room for massaging the scoring by some judges....not that I dont trust the judges .I like a clean,definative switch of rankings.

[killersheep]

Can I be in charge of awarding Interim and Champion Emeritus belts

Sure thing, but you're gonna be like that Maytag repairman on the commercials with nothing to do.

OK so here's a couple of scenarios
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Using the loss results in losing 1-3 places

Assume #9 beats #2

a) close fight

Ranks
before ---------- after
1 --------------- 1
2 --------------- 9
3 --------------- 2
4 --------------- 3
5 --------------- 4
6 --------------- 5
7 --------------- 6
8 --------------- 7
9 --------------- 8
10 -------------- 10

b) clear win for #9

before ---------- after
1 --------------- 1
2 --------------- 9
3 --------------- 3
4 --------------- 2
5 --------------- 4
6 --------------- 5
7 --------------- 6
8 --------------- 7
9 --------------- 8
10 -------------- 10

c) blowout win for # 9

before ---------- after
1 --------------- 1
2 --------------- 9
3 --------------- 3
4 --------------- 4
5 --------------- 2
6 --------------- 5
7 --------------- 6
8 --------------- 7
9 --------------- 8
10 -------------- 10

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Fighters switch ranks

again #9 beats #2

Ranks
before ---------- after
1 --------------- 1
2 --------------- 9
3 --------------- 3
4 --------------- 4
5 --------------- 5
6 --------------- 6
7 --------------- 7
8 --------------- 8
9 --------------- 2
10 -------------- 10

Good work but Im just not keen on the a,b,& c loss catagories ?More of a math class and who exactly has the task of determining a blowout from a close nod?Just leaves alot of room for massaging the scoring by some judges....not that I dont trust the judges .I like a clean,definative switch of rankings.

Valid

[Galaxy]

I'd like to put a motion on the floor for the initial rankings all titles will be vacant. We will rank the top 10 fighters in each weight class, when the #1 ranked fighter fights any other top 5 that will be the first title fight.

This is open to discussion

I'm happy to have all championships vacant but would prefer the current Ring champs to be ranked #1 to continue the linage.

I think if #1 fights any other top 4 should be the qualifier

So you're talking

Adamek at 200
Pavlik at 160
Hatton at 140
JMM at 135
Vazquez at 122
Calderon at 108

To all get a pass as #1 ranked, I have no problem with that.

Yeah pretty obvious choices there, another thing Id like is fighters will be able to be ranked in multiple weights e.g. say Mosley beats Forrest at 154 he would become ranked at 154 & 147 but if he goes over something like a year not fighting in one weight he'll be removed from that weight class... oh & I like the idea of holding multiple championships in different weights but I think there should be some sorta limit on defending the championship say 2 years without defending your title would be classed as relinquishing it!

[killersheep]

I'm happy to have all championships vacant but would prefer the current Ring champs to be ranked #1 to continue the linage.

I think if #1 fights any other top 4 should be the qualifier

So you're talking

Adamek at 200
Pavlik at 160
Hatton at 140
JMM at 135
Vazquez at 122
Calderon at 108

To all get a pass as #1 ranked, I have no problem with that.

Yeah pretty obvious choices there, another thing Id like is fighters will be able to be ranked in multiple weights e.g. say Mosley beats Forrest at 154 he would become ranked at 154 & 147 but if he goes over something like a year not fighting in one weight he'll be removed from that weight class... oh & I like the idea of holding multiple championships in different weights but I think there should be some sorta limit on defending the championship say 2 years without defending your title would be classed as relinquishing it!

Ok let's establish reasons for vacancy.

1. A fight announces his retirement he is immediately removed.

2. A fighter ranked #1 - #10 that doesn't fight in a weightclass for a year vacates that spot.

3. A Champion that doesn't defend in that weight class in 2 years vacates the title.

[Spicoli]

So you're talking

Adamek at 200
Pavlik at 160
Hatton at 140
JMM at 135
Vazquez at 122
Calderon at 108

To all get a pass as #1 ranked, I have no problem with that.

Yeah pretty obvious choices there, another thing Id like is fighters will be able to be ranked in multiple weights e.g. say Mosley beats Forrest at 154 he would become ranked at 154 & 147 but if he goes over something like a year not fighting in one weight he'll be removed from that weight class... oh & I like the idea of holding multiple championships in different weights but I think there should be some sorta limit on defending the championship say 2 years without defending your title would be classed as relinquishing it!

Ok let's establish reasons for vacancy.

1. A fight announces his retirement he is immediately removed.

2. A fighter ranked #1 - #10 that doesn't fight in a weightclass for a year vacates that spot.

3. A Champion that doesn't defend in that weight class in 2 years vacates the title.

Good stuff,like the immediate removal.I think maybe the Champions vacancy should be same as top ten contender?Two years is a loooong time.Might he wait some top guys out ??

[killersheep]

Yeah pretty obvious choices there, another thing Id like is fighters will be able to be ranked in multiple weights e.g. say Mosley beats Forrest at 154 he would become ranked at 154 & 147 but if he goes over something like a year not fighting in one weight he'll be removed from that weight class... oh & I like the idea of holding multiple championships in different weights but I think there should be some sorta limit on defending the championship say 2 years without defending your title would be classed as relinquishing it!

Ok let's establish reasons for vacancy.

1. A fight announces his retirement he is immediately removed.

2. A fighter ranked #1 - #10 that doesn't fight in a weightclass for a year vacates that spot.

3. A Champion that doesn't defend in that weight class in 2 years vacates the title.

Good stuff,like the immediate removal.I think maybe the Champions vacancy should be same as top ten contender?Two years is a loooong time.Might he wait some top guys out ??

That's true, I'm on the fence on that one.

I would also like to establish a pool, the pool would be fighters recently removed from the rankings list they will have priority consideration for addition to the ranking list.

[Galaxy]

Ok let's establish reasons for vacancy.

1. A fight announces his retirement he is immediately removed.

2. A fighter ranked #1 - #10 that doesn't fight in a weightclass for a year vacates that spot.

3. A Champion that doesn't defend in that weight class in 2 years vacates the title.

Good stuff,like the immediate removal.I think maybe the Champions vacancy should be same as top ten contender?Two years is a loooong time.Might he wait some top guys out ??

That's true, I'm on the fence on that one.

I would also like to establish a pool, the pool would be fighters recently removed from the rankings list they will have priority consideration for addition to the ranking list.

I was thinking something similar to your pool idea, e.g.

In the Ring Rankings for 11 Jan 09 O'Neil Bell was removed from the cruiserweight ratings for inactivity... he would become our #11. Then in the last Ratings for 1 March 09 BJ Flores was removed (troy Ross entered but this wouldn't occur for us because he didn't beat a ranked fighter).

Flores could become #11 & Bell would move down to 12 & so forth.

As we go along more fighters would be added in this way, then if any of them fight they would change rank accordingly or if they are beaten by a unranked that fighter would take their rating moving them down. These fights between #11 down could be used to fill vacancies also!

[Galaxy]

So you're talking

Adamek at 200
Pavlik at 160
Hatton at 140
JMM at 135
Vazquez at 122
Calderon at 108

To all get a pass as #1 ranked, I have no problem with that.

Yeah pretty obvious choices there, another thing Id like is fighters will be able to be ranked in multiple weights e.g. say Mosley beats Forrest at 154 he would become ranked at 154 & 147 but if he goes over something like a year not fighting in one weight he'll be removed from that weight class... oh & I like the idea of holding multiple championships in different weights but I think there should be some sorta limit on defending the championship say 2 years without defending your title would be classed as relinquishing it!

Ok let's establish reasons for vacancy.

1. A fight announces his retirement he is immediately removed.

2. A fighter ranked #1 - #10 that doesn't fight in a weightclass for a year vacates that spot.

3. A Champion that doesn't defend in that weight class in 2 years vacates the title.

It doesn't have to be that long, I just think its a suffucant amount of time. If a fighter hasn't fought at that weight for 2 years its more than likely they won't be back... I think after 1 year of not defending if a fight between the #1 & #2 is made then we could vote to see if that fight should be considered as a championship fight. If in 2 years of not defending then the title becomes vacant...