JMM v. Mayweather Talks underway

[rjj tszyu]

Without a shadow of a doubt Mayweather schools Marquez even with the long layoff. Marquez has never been in with that kind of quality and that includes Pac.

[XaduBoxer]

umm you mean the fact that since last Saturday Pacquiao's hold at #1 p4p is much in doubt by a lot of fans and sportswriters, seeing how many consider Marquez now the #1 p4p fighter in the world, and how if he does fight Marquez and beat him, he can once again scoop up 2 HUGE PPV fights back to back being against JM Marquez and then against the winner of Pacquiao/Hatton, that enough of an explanation for you? oh wait, if i don't mention Pacquiao as the MAIN reason well it doesn't make sense to you

JMM was not declared officially as the new P4P #1... Even Ring Mag still has JMM at #2 behind PAC so GBP can't use that to lure PBF... And I think a PBF-JMM fight at 147 will not make big money on PPV... JMM will be so much an underdog in that fight and fans think it's not even competitive... PBF will have all the advantages...

yea that's why if it does happen it will be at 140, and hell how is Ring Mag suppossed to have Marquez at #1 yet, the fight was just last Saturday , and honestly JMM has looked a lot more impressive in his last few fights against better opposition than Pac, DLH is shot, Casamayor had just KO'd Katsidis, David Diaz should have lost his little belt to Morales and was given a gift decision, then had a draw if i remember correctly in his very next fight against garbage, Juan Diaz lost to a very game Nate Campbell,than was stopped by the "smaller" Marquez, real question is, what has Pac done since moving up to 135 to deserve being called the best fighter p4p?

PBF-JMM at 140 won't happen... As I mentioned earlier in this thread, PBF didn't even give that luxury to Hatton which has more negotiating power compared to JMM...
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[Kirkland Laing]

Floyd wants $20 million for whoever he fights next, or as close as possible to it. JMM wants the biggest payday possible as he hasn't had a really big one and he isn't getting any younger. But he'll probably have to settle for Hatton in Manchester as Floyd will fight Manny after he beats Hatton.



Or if Hatton wins JMM gets Manny again.

[ElTerribleMorales]

JMM was not declared officially as the new P4P #1... Even Ring Mag still has JMM at #2 behind PAC so GBP can't use that to lure PBF... And I think a PBF-JMM fight at 147 will not make big money on PPV... JMM will be so much an underdog in that fight and fans think it's not even competitive... PBF will have all the advantages...

yea that's why if it does happen it will be at 140, and hell how is Ring Mag suppossed to have Marquez at #1 yet, the fight was just last Saturday , and honestly JMM has looked a lot more impressive in his last few fights against better opposition than Pac, DLH is shot, Casamayor had just KO'd Katsidis, David Diaz should have lost his little belt to Morales and was given a gift decision, then had a draw if i remember correctly in his very next fight against garbage, Juan Diaz lost to a very game Nate Campbell,than was stopped by the "smaller" Marquez, real question is, what has Pac done since moving up to 135 to deserve being called the best fighter p4p?

PBF-JMM at 140 won't happen... As I mentioned earlier in this thread, PBF didn't even give that luxury to Hatton which has more negotiating power compared to JMM...
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yea he didn't go down to 140 against Hatton cause he knew it wouldn't be benefit him, Hatton would be a lot stronger at 140 than he was at 147, Marquez on the other hand wouldn't benefit from being at 140, so just for the big $$$ on PPV i believe Floyd would take the fight

[XaduBoxer]

yea that's why if it does happen it will be at 140, and hell how is Ring Mag suppossed to have Marquez at #1 yet, the fight was just last Saturday , and honestly JMM has looked a lot more impressive in his last few fights against better opposition than Pac, DLH is shot, Casamayor had just KO'd Katsidis, David Diaz should have lost his little belt to Morales and was given a gift decision, then had a draw if i remember correctly in his very next fight against garbage, Juan Diaz lost to a very game Nate Campbell,than was stopped by the "smaller" Marquez, real question is, what has Pac done since moving up to 135 to deserve being called the best fighter p4p?

PBF-JMM at 140 won't happen... As I mentioned earlier in this thread, PBF didn't even give that luxury to Hatton which has more negotiating power compared to JMM...
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yea he didn't go down to 140 against Hatton cause he knew it wouldn't be benefit him, Hatton would be a lot stronger at 140 than he was at 147, Marquez on the other hand wouldn't benefit from being at 140, so just for the big $$$ on PPV i believe Floyd would take the fight

And why would PBF go down to 140 for JMM when PAC, Hatton, Mosley, Cotto are willing to fight him at 147 in a much bigger PPV fight??
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[eagle]

PBF-JMM at 140 won't happen... As I mentioned earlier in this thread, PBF didn't even give that luxury to Hatton which has more negotiating power compared to JMM...
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yea he didn't go down to 140 against Hatton cause he knew it wouldn't be benefit him, Hatton would be a lot stronger at 140 than he was at 147, Marquez on the other hand wouldn't benefit from being at 140, so just for the big $$$ on PPV i believe Floyd would take the fight

And why would PBF go down to 140 for JMM when PAC, Hatton, Mosley, Cotto are willing to fight him at 147 in a much bigger PPV fight??
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How would fighting Pac or Hatton be a bigger PPV event at 147 than 140 If anything it'd be a greater achievment if Floyd beat those 2 at 140!

[blegit]

I admire Marquez's heart. He has shown the most out of all the little guys. But Marquez/Mayweather jr would be a mismatch. Maybe not a knockout but something like a sparring match. If you don't have power advantage over Mayweather you don't really have a chance. The chance of luck is not worth dishing out 50 to 60 bucks for. The only fights that make sense for Mayweather would be Cotto or Mosley. But to be fair a nice tuneup would be good for him. He does have to rid the rust and test the health of his hands.

[ElTerribleMorales]

PBF-JMM at 140 won't happen... As I mentioned earlier in this thread, PBF didn't even give that luxury to Hatton which has more negotiating power compared to JMM...
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yea he didn't go down to 140 against Hatton cause he knew it wouldn't be benefit him, Hatton would be a lot stronger at 140 than he was at 147, Marquez on the other hand wouldn't benefit from being at 140, so just for the big $$$ on PPV i believe Floyd would take the fight

And why would PBF go down to 140 for JMM when PAC, Hatton, Mosley, Cotto are willing to fight him at 147 in a much bigger PPV fight??
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easy, Pacquiao, Hatton and Marquez are less risky than Cotto Mosley, that already narrows it down to those 3, then like i already stated, Mayweather is gonna try to make the most of it financially, so let me get this right, you think a guy who changed his nickname from Pretty Boy to Money, is just gonna take one big fight against Pacquiao or Hatton, when he can just as easily fight Marquez to set it up and then fight Pacquiao or Hatton for an easy 20 Mil?

[XaduBoxer]

yea he didn't go down to 140 against Hatton cause he knew it wouldn't be benefit him, Hatton would be a lot stronger at 140 than he was at 147, Marquez on the other hand wouldn't benefit from being at 140, so just for the big $$$ on PPV i believe Floyd would take the fight

And why would PBF go down to 140 for JMM when PAC, Hatton, Mosley, Cotto are willing to fight him at 147 in a much bigger PPV fight??
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How would fighting Pac or Hatton be a bigger PPV event at 147 than 140 If anything it'd be a greater achievment if Floyd beat those 2 at 140!

PAC and Hatton has huge fanbase compared to JMM... So it's expected PAC vs PBF and PBF vs. Hatton PPV fights are much bigger PPV fights than PBFvsJMM...
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[XaduBoxer]

yea he didn't go down to 140 against Hatton cause he knew it wouldn't be benefit him, Hatton would be a lot stronger at 140 than he was at 147, Marquez on the other hand wouldn't benefit from being at 140, so just for the big $$$ on PPV i believe Floyd would take the fight

And why would PBF go down to 140 for JMM when PAC, Hatton, Mosley, Cotto are willing to fight him at 147 in a much bigger PPV fight??
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easy, Pacquiao, Hatton and Marquez are less risky than Cotto Mosley, that already narrows it down to those 3, then like i already stated, Mayweather is gonna try to make the most of it financially, so let me get this right, you think a guy who changed his nickname from Pretty Boy to Money, is just gonna take one big fight against Pacquiao or Hatton, when he can just as easily fight Marquez to set it up and then fight Pacquiao or Hatton for an easy 20 Mil?

What happens to JMM if PBF stays retired??
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[ElTerribleMorales]

And why would PBF go down to 140 for JMM when PAC, Hatton, Mosley, Cotto are willing to fight him at 147 in a much bigger PPV fight??
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easy, Pacquiao, Hatton and Marquez are less risky than Cotto Mosley, that already narrows it down to those 3, then like i already stated, Mayweather is gonna try to make the most of it financially, so let me get this right, you think a guy who changed his nickname from Pretty Boy to Money, is just gonna take one big fight against Pacquiao or Hatton, when he can just as easily fight Marquez to set it up and then fight Pacquiao or Hatton for an easy 20 Mil?

What happens to JMM if PBF stays retired??
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he moves up to 140 and tries to clean up another division that Pacquiao failed to do

[XaduBoxer]

Don't get me wrong, I'll be happy for JMM if he gets what he wants, a PBF fight... JMM deserves a pay day... I think the largest purse of JMM is about $1.5M in the PAC rematch fight... PBF, PAC, Hatton are all receiving purses in the range of $10M to $15M per fight...

JMM should at least achieve a $2M purse before he retires... He's already 36 years old and not much years left in boxing...

I just don't think PBF will unretire to satisfy JMM's wants...
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[clintuk]

easy, Pacquiao, Hatton and Marquez are less risky than Cotto Mosley, that already narrows it down to those 3, then like i already stated, Mayweather is gonna try to make the most of it financially, so let me get this right, you think a guy who changed his nickname from Pretty Boy to Money, is just gonna take one big fight against Pacquiao or Hatton, when he can just as easily fight Marquez to set it up and then fight Pacquiao or Hatton for an easy 20 Mil?

What happens to JMM if PBF stays retired??
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he moves up to 140 and tries to clean up another division that Pacquiao failed to do

Ouch.... low blow!

[ElTerribleMorales]

Don't get me wrong, I'll be happy for JMM if he gets what he wants, a PBF fight... JMM deserves a pay day... I think the largest purse of JMM is about $1.5M in the PAC rematch fight... PBF, PAC, Hatton are all receiving purses in the range of $10M to $15M per fight...

JMM should at least achieve a $2M purse before he retires... He's already 36 years old and not much years left in boxing...

I just don't think PBF will unretire to satisfy JMM's wants...
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i think he will if it plays into a bigger plan

[Rocky Balboa]

I doubt it will ever happen. Mayweather, if he will come out, will come out for something huge. A fight verses JMM wouldn't even be competitive. I looked at his fight with Diaz and thought wow, he looks good but Floyd would have him in a sparring session. Floyd will come out for something that will make big money, like record amounts.