RJJ - He was the most physically gifted athlete to ever box......
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RJJ - He was the most physically gifted athlete to ever box......
The lighter you go, the faster they get.
Roy had way faster hands than Joe. Meldrick Taylor and Hector Camacho Sr (before he was ruined by Edwin Rosario) were both faster. Ray Leonard had unbelievably fast hands when he was coming up through the welterweight ranks after the Olympics. Hell, I remember Ricardo Lopez as having incredibly fast hands and reaction time in his prime, and Roy was about as fast.
The 1-2 that Roy dropped Reggie Johnson with was one of the fastest two-punch combinations I have ever seen. Roy was way faster than Joe, but Roy was not as fast as prime Meldrick Taylor.
The only person who I can think of as being definitely faster than Taylor was Eddie Cook. He was fighting Israel Contreras for the WBA bantamweight title and his hands were so fast I almost couldn't see them land. The guy was unbelievable.
Meldrick Taylor was fast, but p4p he wasn't as quick as RJJ. I think his combinations were more impressive than his potshotting quickness, and that there are few guys who can match his individual punch speed. SHane Mosley, Yuriorkis Gamboa, Mayweather(at 130), Andre Berto could throw a punch as fast as Meldrick Taylor. But honestly RJJ could compete with any of these guys in speed and he was 30+ pounds heavier than them in his prime.
There are a few guys coming up in the amateurs and going pro that don't throw the same type of combinations but their individual punches are IMO faster than Meldrick Taylor or Guillermo Rigondeaux, Rau'Shee Warren, and the Gary Russell crew.
I think Manny also has elite level handspeed, but he loaded up so much on punches at 130-, and he is one of the easier guys to hit with elite speed that he seemed slower than he actually was.
Last edited by Taeth; 03-09-2009 at 07:31 PM.
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Very true but Jones' were all power punches which was what made his speed so unique.
I know it was an oldish Jones. Thats why I'd love to see just how fast he could have punched around his MW and SMW days. For me he seemed (strange as it seems) to get faster when he moved up from LMW.
Thats it I'm off to watch his career box set again!
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Say it would be a tie between Mosley,Taylor and Jones i seen alot of there stuff they dont seem far apart even pound for pound feel there close and also Ali has to be up there as well because for a heavyweight that man was very fast not mention Leonard has to be close as well.
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Bertos fast...but hes no Taylor.Watch the Meekins and McGirt breakdowns,Amazing
I dont know about ever but Johhny Tapia had some stabbing fast shots.Poppa Camacho too.
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Roy p4p was the fastest. A lot of people may disagree but I think Yurioukis Gamboa is the fastest handed fighter of the 2000's.
Psalm 144: Blessed be the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle
Roy clearly faster than Joe. As for p4p speed, gotta be Ali. I saw a documentary where they measured his soeed and found he was quicker than Ray Robinson. Thats saying something bearing in mind the different weights. Also dont forget Hamed. Watch his first knockdown of Belcastro. Nothing short of astonishing. He is not even that close to him when he throws the punch. Plus his final KO of Kelley. Kelley's whole body shook from that one punch. I think he is up there, and possible ahead of, Jones Jr in terms of pure athleticism (although failed to stick with it obviosuly)
How did they find out Ali was faster than Robinson who's prime is nigh impossible to find on film? Ali was amazingly fast, but his speed never dominated like Roy's did, Robinson also throw amazingly fast combinations and got incredible leverage on each punch which Ali didn't do. Hamed was pretty fast, but not on the elite, elite level.
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hamed was fast but i agree not on the elite level, he threw punches from awkward angles more than rapid combos.
A right hand can take you round the block, A jab round the world.
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Jones had the fastest out of the 2 mentioned but P4P ever?....
Meldrick Taylor, Hector Camacho, Ray Leonard, Muhammad Ali are always front runners but in truth there are dozens that make it almost impossible to choose....
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