Pacquiao beating Hatton...I just don't see it

[Taeth]

Hatton's only advantage is the size (eventhough Pac is taller and has 3" reach advantage). And I don't think Hatton is stronger than Pac, maybe he was 2 years ago, but not anymore.

The bigger Pac's opponents are, the vunerable they'll get hit. In other words, THEY ARE EASY TARGET!

And oh! Hatton is terrible fighter against southpaws.

Are you saying Pacquiao has gotten stronger or that Hatton has gotten weaker? I've definitely seen Pacquiao bulk up a bit, but Hatton hasn't gotten any weaker.

[James_Teja]

Hatton's only advantage is the size (eventhough Pac is taller and has 3" reach advantage). And I don't think Hatton is stronger than Pac, maybe he was 2 years ago, but not anymore.

The bigger Pac's opponents are, the vunerable they'll get hit. In other words, THEY ARE EASY TARGET!

And oh! Hatton is terrible fighter against southpaws.

Are you saying Pacquiao has gotten stronger or that Hatton has gotten weaker? I've definitely seen Pacquiao bulk up a bit, but Hatton hasn't gotten any weaker.

Well Hatton is a buracho. He's a drunk (not alcoholic, there's a difference) and he's gonna pay the price come May 2nd. Even Floyd Sr warned him many times about it. But yeah, he's gotten weaker and his face puffed up so easily in his last 2 fights. That's a sign of aging out of the sport - the DLH syndrome.

Floyd Sr kept saying Hatton will learn a lot from him?.. well guess what?.. YOU CAN'T TEACH AN OLD DOG A NEW TRICK.

[Taeth]

Hatton's only advantage is the size (eventhough Pac is taller and has 3" reach advantage). And I don't think Hatton is stronger than Pac, maybe he was 2 years ago, but not anymore.

The bigger Pac's opponents are, the vunerable they'll get hit. In other words, THEY ARE EASY TARGET!

And oh! Hatton is terrible fighter against southpaws.

Are you saying Pacquiao has gotten stronger or that Hatton has gotten weaker? I've definitely seen Pacquiao bulk up a bit, but Hatton hasn't gotten any weaker.

Well Hatton is a buracho. He's a drunk (not alcoholic, there's a difference) and he's gonna pay the price come May 2nd. Even Floyd Sr warned him many times about it. But yeah, he's gotten weaker and his face puffed up so easily in his last 2 fights. That's a sign of aging out of the sport - the DLH syndrome.

Floyd Sr kept saying Hatton will learn a lot from him?.. well guess what?.. YOU CAN'T TEACH AN OLD DOG A NEW TRICK.

Hatton's not a dog, and he looked different against Paulie, he still came in his hands down, but he used more patience and showed better timing. Where is the evidence that he has gotten weaker? He muscled Mayweather, he muscled Paulie around and beat him worse than Cotto did. Hatton's face has always been puffy, thats the sign of you losing a lot of weight before a fight not the "Dela Hoya syndrome". As for the drinking there have been a few fighters like Monzon who have been alcoholics and still had long, successful careers.

[James_Teja]

Are you saying Pacquiao has gotten stronger or that Hatton has gotten weaker? I've definitely seen Pacquiao bulk up a bit, but Hatton hasn't gotten any weaker.

Well Hatton is a buracho. He's a drunk (not alcoholic, there's a difference) and he's gonna pay the price come May 2nd. Even Floyd Sr warned him many times about it. But yeah, he's gotten weaker and his face puffed up so easily in his last 2 fights. That's a sign of aging out of the sport - the DLH syndrome.

Floyd Sr kept saying Hatton will learn a lot from him?.. well guess what?.. YOU CAN'T TEACH AN OLD DOG A NEW TRICK.

Hatton's not a dog, and he looked different against Paulie, he still came in his hands down, but he used more patience and showed better timing. Where is the evidence that he has gotten weaker? He muscled Mayweather, he muscled Paulie around and beat him worse than Cotto did. Hatton's face has always been puffy, thats the sign of you losing a lot of weight before a fight not the "Dela Hoya syndrome". As for the drinking there have been a few fighters like Monzon who have been alcoholics and still had long, successful careers.

Paulie is a joke. Pac doesn't fight like him. The only thing they have in common is they both have tough chin. Pac is 2x faster than Paulie, and a lot smarter than him too. Believe me when I say Hatton will get frustrated from Pac's constant head movement, in and out, lateral footwork, and the southpaw style. He'll spin Hatton around all night and will catch him with the left bomb. Monzon primarily used his boxing skill, not mainly his strenght that made him a great fighter.

[Addicted to_boxing]

Well ODL-staged events has a hand in it and is just greedy enough to guarantee future large purses off his new cash cow Pac ... I am actually eager see when Pac will take a fight against a young and dangerous boxer, like say Victor Ortiz ? Like when he was afforded a title shot by MAB.

[Taeth]

Well ODL-staged events has a hand in it and is just greedy enough to guarantee future large purses off his new cash cow Pac ... I am actually eager see when Pac will take a fight against a young and dangerous boxer, like say Victor Ortiz ? Like when he was afforded a title shot by MAB.

Him against Victor Ortiz would be a great fight, I think he should be fighting guys like Ortiz, Cotto, Mayweather, Marquez for a third time, but Hatton is a live underdog and as dangerous for Pacquiao IMO as Ortiz. First Pacquiao has to win the title, and second he has too many big fights to face Ortiz at this stage in his career. As great as MAB was, he was never the p4p king which basically means you have to make only block buster fights.

[Addicted to_boxing]

Well ODL-staged events has a hand in it and is just greedy enough to guarantee future large purses off his new cash cow Pac ... I am actually eager see when Pac will take a fight against a young and dangerous boxer, like say Victor Ortiz ? Like when he was afforded a title shot by MAB.

Him against Victor Ortiz would be a great fight, I think he should be fighting guys like Ortiz, Cotto, Mayweather, Marquez for a third time, but Hatton is a live underdog and as dangerous for Pacquiao IMO as Ortiz. First Pacquiao has to win the title, and second he has too many big fights to face Ortiz at this stage in his career. As great as MAB was, he was never the p4p king which basically means you have to make only block buster fights.

MAB also had many fights but gave Pac a forum to launch his star status! I just want to see how Pac will fare against a harder puncher than himself and having to fight backwards .... Neither Cotto, Mayweather or Marquez has the 1 punch KO ability to alter Pac's aggression. All are already accomplished boxers and have tasted defeat. So there is not genuine hunger and neither can manufacturer the mass of endorphines that Ortiz would bring into the fight. Seems like a Pac in his younger days situation.

[fan johnny]

Yes!.... you can see it happen live on May 2 at MGM Grand in Las Vegas or on HBO PPV.

[Addicted to_boxing]

Well ODL-staged events has a hand in it and is just greedy enough to guarantee future large purses off his new cash cow Pac ... I am actually eager see when Pac will take a fight against a young and dangerous boxer, like say Victor Ortiz ? Like when he was afforded a title shot by MAB.

Him against Victor Ortiz would be a great fight, I think he should be fighting guys like Ortiz, Cotto, Mayweather, Marquez for a third time, but Hatton is a live underdog and as dangerous for Pacquiao IMO as Ortiz. First Pacquiao has to win the title, and second he has too many big fights to face Ortiz at this stage in his career. As great as MAB was, he was never the p4p king which basically means you have to make only block buster fights.

Nice try Taeth but when Pac was offered his opportunity rankings were taken into consideration. If that moment were today Pac may have never received an opportunity. Pac did not deserve the right to fight MAB at that time any more than Ortiz does within 1 year (providing Ortiz does not lose).

[Taeth]

Well ODL-staged events has a hand in it and is just greedy enough to guarantee future large purses off his new cash cow Pac ... I am actually eager see when Pac will take a fight against a young and dangerous boxer, like say Victor Ortiz ? Like when he was afforded a title shot by MAB.

Him against Victor Ortiz would be a great fight, I think he should be fighting guys like Ortiz, Cotto, Mayweather, Marquez for a third time, but Hatton is a live underdog and as dangerous for Pacquiao IMO as Ortiz. First Pacquiao has to win the title, and second he has too many big fights to face Ortiz at this stage in his career. As great as MAB was, he was never the p4p king which basically means you have to make only block buster fights.

Nice try Taeth but when Pac was offered his opportunity rankings were taken into consideration. If that moment were today Pac may have never received an opportunity. Pac did not deserve the right to fight MAB at that time any more than Ortiz does within 1 year (providing Ortiz does not lose).

Nice try about what? When Pacquiao was offered the oppertunity he wasn't considered much in north america, it was suppose to be regular defense of his title for Barrera, sure some people knew Pacquiao was special, but in general he wasn't well known at all. The situation is different is because all eyes are on Pacquiao, he has bigger fights against guys nobody would argue him taking Mayweather, mosley, Cotto, right now Hatton, Marquez again. These are all fights boxing needs more than him fight Victor Ortiz. I am arguing that other people deserve the fight more than Ortiz does, and he isn't even a champion, while Pacquiao was the super batamweight champion before he faced Barrera, and he had better fighters on his resume than Ortiz currently does.

All in all Pacquiao is too busy fighting the best fighters in the world at any weight division, and the up and comers either have to knock off the Miguel Cotto's of the world or wait their turn.

[JazMerkin]

Gotta disagree with you albsur, the reason Hatton lost to Mayweather was because he came up against a guy who was simply better than he could be. It was not a 'bigger' guy, just someone who had Hatton figured out & knew how to beat him, most importantly on the inside in 'Hatton's territory'. I do think Pacquiao is the slight favourite, he has the speed & elusiveness that could make him a very tricky opponent & I think that has enough to push him to a points decision. However, we do not know how good Pacquiao is on the inside, he is certainly not as good there as Mayweather, & it will be interesting to see how he copes with Hatton bullying him when he gets there. It wont be as simple as skipping away & at some point he will have to get into the trenches & this is when Hatton can win. People here really underestimate Hatton's power, any man how can make Kostya Tzsyu quit must punch pretty hard, & lets not forget he kinda wobbled PBF in the 1st round of their fight which very few have done (I know he was off balance but still it was impressive) so I certainly don't think Pacquiao will ever have been in with someone who hits as hard as Ricky & it will be interesting to see how he copes.

[XaduBoxer]

Gotta disagree with you albsur, the reason Hatton lost to Mayweather was because he came up against a guy who was simply better than he could be. It was not a 'bigger' guy, just someone who had Hatton figured out & knew how to beat him, most importantly on the inside in 'Hatton's territory'. I do think Pacquiao is the slight favourite, he has the speed & elusiveness that could make him a very tricky opponent & I think that has enough to push him to a points decision. However, we do not know how good Pacquiao is on the inside, he is certainly not as good there as Mayweather, & it will be interesting to see how he copes with Hatton bullying him when he gets there. It wont be as simple as skipping away & at some point he will have to get into the trenches & this is when Hatton can win. People here really underestimate Hatton's power, any man how can make Kostya Tzsyu quit must punch pretty hard, & lets not forget he kinda wobbled PBF in the 1st round of their fight which very few have done (I know he was off balance but still it was impressive) so I certainly don't think Pacquiao will ever have been in with someone who hits as hard as Ricky & it will be interesting to see how he copes.

I admire Hatton's ability to make his opponent off balance due to his footspeed in the early rounds ... He's able to do it to PBF and Collazo but it's only off-balance and not really making any damage to the opponent... Granting Hatton and PAC has the same footspeed then Hatton won't be able to bully and push PAC to the ropes... I think tho PAC has faster feet/movement...

Hatton make Kostya quit 4 years ago equivalent to PAC in the Morales fights but Hatton recent fights were unimpressive that some considered Hatton on a decline while PAC is still seen with vast improvements in every fight up to his last fight...
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[XaduBoxer]

Him against Victor Ortiz would be a great fight, I think he should be fighting guys like Ortiz, Cotto, Mayweather, Marquez for a third time, but Hatton is a live underdog and as dangerous for Pacquiao IMO as Ortiz. First Pacquiao has to win the title, and second he has too many big fights to face Ortiz at this stage in his career. As great as MAB was, he was never the p4p king which basically means you have to make only block buster fights.

Nice try Taeth but when Pac was offered his opportunity rankings were taken into consideration. If that moment were today Pac may have never received an opportunity. Pac did not deserve the right to fight MAB at that time any more than Ortiz does within 1 year (providing Ortiz does not lose).

Nice try about what? When Pacquiao was offered the oppertunity he wasn't considered much in north america, it was suppose to be regular defense of his title for Barrera, sure some people knew Pacquiao was special, but in general he wasn't well known at all. The situation is different is because all eyes are on Pacquiao, he has bigger fights against guys nobody would argue him taking Mayweather, mosley, Cotto, right now Hatton, Marquez again. These are all fights boxing needs more than him fight Victor Ortiz. I am arguing that other people deserve the fight more than Ortiz does, and he isn't even a champion, while Pacquiao was the super batamweight champion before he faced Barrera, and he had better fighters on his resume than Ortiz currently does.

All in all Pacquiao is too busy fighting the best fighters in the world at any weight division, and the up and comers either have to knock off the Miguel Cotto's of the world or wait their turn.

Not only PAC a super bantam champ but he's already a 2 division titliest (flyweight and super bantam) at that time when he first faced Barrera... PAC was much much better than an Ortiz at that time...
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[Pugilistic]

Pacquiao's speed and southpaw style will be too much for Hatton to overcome imo.

Hatton will make a good fight of it early on but will tire as it wears on from taking alot of Pacquiao combos.

He may last the distance but i don't see it.

Pacquiao by late TKO.

[James_Teja]

Him against Victor Ortiz would be a great fight, I think he should be fighting guys like Ortiz, Cotto, Mayweather, Marquez for a third time, but Hatton is a live underdog and as dangerous for Pacquiao IMO as Ortiz. First Pacquiao has to win the title, and second he has too many big fights to face Ortiz at this stage in his career. As great as MAB was, he was never the p4p king which basically means you have to make only block buster fights.

Nice try Taeth but when Pac was offered his opportunity rankings were taken into consideration. If that moment were today Pac may have never received an opportunity. Pac did not deserve the right to fight MAB at that time any more than Ortiz does within 1 year (providing Ortiz does not lose).

Nice try about what? When Pacquiao was offered the oppertunity he wasn't considered much in north america, it was suppose to be regular defense of his title for Barrera, sure some people knew Pacquiao was special, but in general he wasn't well known at all. The situation is different is because all eyes are on Pacquiao, he has bigger fights against guys nobody would argue him taking Mayweather, mosley, Cotto, right now Hatton, Marquez again. These are all fights boxing needs more than him fight Victor Ortiz. I am arguing that other people deserve the fight more than Ortiz does, and he isn't even a champion, while Pacquiao was the super batamweight champion before he faced Barrera, and he had better fighters on his resume than Ortiz currently does.

All in all Pacquiao is too busy fighting the best fighters in the world at any weight division, and the up and comers either have to knock off the Miguel Cotto's of the world or wait their turn.

Ortiz is one of the best prospect I've ever seen. He's better than Angulo imo. And I wish him all the best with his future fights. He'd be the perfect guy for Pacquiao to be passing his torch with. Ortiz is very down to earth guy, very humble like Pac. I would hate if someday people will call him overhyped or overrated.