Is Juan Manuel Marquez Over Rated?

[CutMeMick]

I think PBFs opposition is over rated.
His skills can't be denied but his opposition is very questionable.
I mean really Henry Bruseles?
Sharmba? Zab? Baldomir?

PBFs last opponents: Hatton, ODLH, Baldomir, Zab, Sharmba
Pacs last opponents: ODLH, Diaz, JMM, MAB, Solis
JMM last opponents: Diaz, Casa, Pac, MAB, Juarez, Jaca

I mean clearly you can see that Pac & JMM quality of opposition is better then PBFs. I mean honestly aside from Hatton the rest of PBFs opposition is pretty weak.

If anyone feels I've downplayed PBFs opposition I'd like to hear their side. I'm all ears...

[bcollins]

I think PBFs opposition is over rated.
His skills can't be denied but his opposition is very questionable.
I mean really Henry Bruseles?
Sharmba? Zab? Baldomir?

PBFs last opponents: Hatton, ODLH, Baldomir, Zab, Sharmba
Pacs last opponents: ODLH, Diaz, JMM, MAB, Solis
JMM last opponents: Diaz, Casa, Pac, MAB, Juarez, Jaca

I mean clearly you can see that Pac & JMM quality of opposition is better then PBFs. I mean honestly aside from Hatton the rest of PBFs opposition is pretty weak.

If anyone feels I've downplayed PBFs opposition I'd like to hear their side. I'm all ears...

You just mentioned Pac in a post. Great, now I've done it too!

All this stuff is really getting crazy. If there's a serious question whether or not one of the finest boxers of our generation is overrated, then I think we need to examine this word "overrated". I think people are using this word to express an emotion about a boxer, rather than an objective opinion. Instead of rationally looking at a fighter's career, it's all about "hey, this guy fought one of my favorite fighters, so I have to talk bad about him!" That's just ridiculous. Is it impossible to respect both fighters?

If you can't respect and admire more than one fighter, why do you watch boxing? If you can't respect the fighters who deserve respect, then maybe you should try following a different sport. I hear badminton has some real badasses...

[Andre]

I think PBFs opposition is over rated.
His skills can't be denied but his opposition is very questionable.
I mean really Henry Bruseles?
Sharmba? Zab? Baldomir?

PBFs last opponents: Hatton, ODLH, Baldomir, Zab, Sharmba
Pacs last opponents: ODLH, Diaz, JMM, MAB, Solis
JMM last opponents: Diaz, Casa, Pac, MAB, Juarez, Jaca

I mean clearly you can see that Pac & JMM quality of opposition is better then PBFs. I mean honestly aside from Hatton the rest of PBFs opposition is pretty weak.

If anyone feels I've downplayed PBFs opposition I'd like to hear their side. I'm all ears...

You just mentioned Pac in a post. Great, now I've done it too!

All this stuff is really getting crazy. If there's a serious question whether or not one of the finest boxers of our generation is overrated, then I think we need to examine this word "overrated". I think people are using this word to express an emotion about a boxer, rather than an objective opinion. Instead of rationally looking at a fighter's career, it's all about "hey, this guy fought one of my favorite fighters, so I have to talk bad about him!" That's just ridiculous. Is it impossible to respect both fighters?

If you can't respect and admire more than one fighter, why do you watch boxing? If you can't respect the fighters who deserve respect, then maybe you should try following a different sport. I hear badminton has some real badasses...

I agree with everything Mick just said in his last two posts and what your saying here.

I left this post in here instead of moving it because it has some merit to the thought and has a balanced persepective with Pac involved or not.

I moved alot of threads yesterday cause we dont want set ups,trolling or sh!t fights over the same content continually on the main board.

If others cant see that most of those types of threads are just placed here to make PAC look better for the Pac fans that are arriving in bunches into Saddos now; Then I think the wool is being pulled over your eyes.

These blokes will try and get us to talk about their favorite fighter (one of mine too) at any cost because most of them (not all) can only talk about PAC in regards to overall boxing because thats all they know as that is where they have entered in boxing .(Its PAC and his opponents or nothing). Look at all the other threads its clean of their posts unless they can wangle a Pac comment into one of them on a related cause.

We cant be continually set up into these threads with two sides taking offence at each others standings over the matter, jokes posts aside most of us here have had enough.

Have a couple of threads running on it by all means but please if newbies come marching in trying to set up that stuff for their own pumped up ego, its a clean sweep and a ban .

Reason:
(I miss the 20 or so old posters who have left this place because of it).
I dont want any more leaving.